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Post#61 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:32 am

When Its already assumed its Doncic, and it can be a totally different player drafted and/or he is picked before our Pick.




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Post#62 » by F N 11 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:33 am

Idk if he was before but Timmy is following Doug already and liked the photo saying by to Okc and on his way to NY. Leadership qualities by Tim even though it's just social media.
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Post#63 » by TankCommander17 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:33 am

Basically Perry it seems took the best offer. Which was a 2nd rounder and cap space in 2019. Because that is what this gives you.

Also are people really saying Willie's ceiling is Kanter? Da fuq?
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Post#64 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:33 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:i hope for you guys it's not doncic or bust. not trying to rain on your parades but the top 5 is STACKED with talent and i think we would be grateful to land any of them. they all look like game changers

Except Porter. I don't like him.

i am not that high on porter but i think he's the closest prospect to KD we've ever seen IMO. i think he's a better prospect than ingram was in duke
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Post#65 » by Polk377 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:34 am

3toheadmelo wrote:i hope for you guys it's not doncic or bust. not trying to rain on your parades but the top 5 is STACKED with talent and i think we would be grateful to land any of them. they all look like game changers

I'm still on the Miles Bridges bandwagon.....
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Post#66 » by F N 11 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:35 am

Man the competition for these spots are going to be lit. And I think we are set up for a lot of running and gunning.
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Post#67 » by TankCommander17 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:35 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:i hope for you guys it's not doncic or bust. not trying to rain on your parades but the top 5 is STACKED with talent and i think we would be grateful to land any of them. they all look like game changers

Except Porter. I don't like him.

i am not that high on porter but i think he's the closest prospect to KD we've ever seen IMO. i think he's a better prospect than ingram was in duke

No way. KD was a slick assasin. I don't see that in Porter at all. I am afraid we end up with him though. #KnicksLife
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Post#68 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:36 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:i hope for you guys it's not doncic or bust. not trying to rain on your parades but the top 5 is STACKED with talent and i think we would be grateful to land any of them. they all look like game changers

I'm still on the Miles Bridges bandwagon.....

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Post#69 » by Wolfgang630 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:36 am

You guys have to stop with Doncic. We're not going to be that bad. After what Doncic just did he's looking like the 1 or 2 pick.
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Post#70 » by Polk377 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:37 am

TankCommander17 wrote:Basically Perry it seems took the best offer. Which was a 2nd rounder and cap space in 2019. Because that is what this gives you.

Also are people really saying Willie's ceiling is Kanter? Da fuq?

Willy's ceiling is a Gasol hybrid.
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Post#71 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:37 am

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TankCommander17 wrote:Except Porter. I don't like him.

i am not that high on porter but i think he's the closest prospect to KD we've ever seen IMO. i think he's a better prospect than ingram was in duke

No way. KD was a slick assasin. I don't see that in Porter at all. I am afraid we end up with him though. #KnicksLife

we'll have to see. i have problems with his handles and core strength. but he is pretty damn intriguing if he's able to put it all together
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Post#72 » by Icandoallthings » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:37 am

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Icandoallthings wrote:Honestly think this was the best deal the team was going to get. Watching Melo decline while dominating the ball for another year would have been a terrible thing. KP will be able to develop into a leader.



Maybe when I get to the other 100 pages I'll be convinced, but not being able to extract Ferg, Abrines or a #1 from OKC was sort of a fail. I think this wasn't "the only deal" but the Knicks sort of blinked and OKC left feeling happy they clearly won the deal.

I think that we disagree on the value of Melo on the Knicks. OKC. trading for a possible 1 year rental and 3rd banana limits the lengths to which they were willing to go. Sounds like you had a long day;all the best brother.
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Post#73 » by Bill Pidto » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:37 am

Carmelo is GONE!!! Somebody pinch me.
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Post#74 » by TankCommander17 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:38 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:i am not that high on porter but i think he's the closest prospect to KD we've ever seen IMO. i think he's a better prospect than ingram was in duke

No way. KD was a slick assasin. I don't see that in Porter at all. I am afraid we end up with him though. #KnicksLife

we'll have to see. i have problems with his handles and core strength. but he is pretty damn intriguing if he's able to put it all together

Yup his handles are nowhere near KD's. That is what makes KD so elite.
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Post#75 » by EMG518 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:38 am

When my friend told me of the trade and I looked it up to see what the pick was my reaction was just UGHHHH. We should have just held onto him. We couldn't even get Terrance Ferguson or a 1st in the deal. We legit got nothing. None of those pieces help our team or are traceable assets. We just got rolled again.
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Post#76 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:38 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Icandoallthings wrote:Honestly think this was the best deal the team was going to get. Watching Melo decline while dominating the ball for another year would have been a terrible thing. KP will be able to develop into a leader.



Maybe when I get to the other 100 pages I'll be convinced, but not being able to extract Ferg, Abrines or a #1 from OKC was sort of a fail. I think this wasn't "the only deal" but the Knicks sort of blinked and OKC left feeling happy they clearly won the deal.

Sometimes you can get what you want and not get what other perceive as much, but it fits what you wanted.

The Knicks wanted to move forward. So did Melo. So they both got ultimately what they wanted. No debate there.

Melo would have been a Rocket had it not been for their insistence of moving Anderson, so he truly didn't everything he wanted.

Knicks got some younger pieces, not the ones they probably wanted, but the moves don't kill the cap and have another pick in next years draft.


I hear you. First off, not Anderson is great, but I'll pull the move lots of people did with Phil when he didn't trade picks. I see as not dealing for 2-3 years of extra salary on a lesser player as "GM 101". I EXPECT that move NOT to be made by an average, competent GM. Nonetheless, I gave kudos to Phil for clearing that low Knick GM bar of not trading picks, so I'll give a small kudo to not taking a crap contract as well.

That said, OKC gets relieved of a mistake contract (notice they shed Olidapo recently too), gets the better player, and the Knicks can't pull out more than McDermott (mediocre) and a pick around 33-35 in the next draft? It's an exactly average move. Grade C. Nothing terrible, nothing that great.
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Post#77 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:41 am

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TankCommander17 wrote:No way. KD was a slick assasin. I don't see that in Porter at all. I am afraid we end up with him though. #KnicksLife

we'll have to see. i have problems with his handles and core strength. but he is pretty damn intriguing if he's able to put it all together

Yup his handles are nowhere near KD's. That is what makes KD so elite.

what i like about him is how he uses his length to shoot over everyone. he can be pretty unguardable if he figures out how to create more space off the dribble. his jumpshot looks pretty smooth as well
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Post#78 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:44 am

Kinglee wrote:So we got Willy's ceiling, a second round pick, and a guy who if he gets off the bench means our team sucks... Out of curioisity, are people happy with the trade outcome or just that Melo is gone?


Come on.. people are probably just upset that they have to watch Enes Kanter play basketball.

Edit: and that there isn't a 1st rounder/
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Post#79 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:44 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:

Maybe when I get to the other 100 pages I'll be convinced, but not being able to extract Ferg, Abrines or a #1 from OKC was sort of a fail. I think this wasn't "the only deal" but the Knicks sort of blinked and OKC left feeling happy they clearly won the deal.

Sometimes you can get what you want and not get what other perceive as much, but it fits what you wanted.

The Knicks wanted to move forward. So did Melo. So they both got ultimately what they wanted. No debate there.

Melo would have been a Rocket had it not been for their insistence of moving Anderson, so he truly didn't everything he wanted.

Knicks got some younger pieces, not the ones they probably wanted, but the moves don't kill the cap and have another pick in next years draft.


I hear you. First off, not Anderson is great, but I'll pull the move lots of people did with Phil when he didn't trade picks. I see as not dealing for 2-3 years of extra salary on a lesser player as "GM 101". I EXPECT that move NOT to be made by an average, competent GM. Nonetheless, I gave kudos to Phil for clearing that low Knick GM bar of not trading picks, so I'll give a small kudo to not taking a crap contract as well.

That said, OKC gets relieved of a mistake contract (notice they shed Olidapo recently too), gets the better player, and the Knicks can't pull out more than McDermott (mediocre) and a pick around 33-35 in the next draft? It's an exactly average move. Grade C. Nothing terrible, nothing that great.

Understood, but I will ask one question...

Does that principle only apply to the Knicks and not the other team? The reason why I ask is because if it were us trading for a player that could walk after the season, we wouldn't want to trade a pick or a valuable asset for them.

I do agree though, not terrible, not great. Suitable.
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Re: Melo traded to OKC Thread (Cont.) 

Post#80 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:46 am

Bill Pidto wrote:Carmelo is GONE!!! Somebody pinch me.


Anticlimactic though, no Bill?

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