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[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#61 » by stuporman » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:03 am

Knicks 'could' get Bamba and Mikal with taking on Parsons and losing no other assets other than Lee/Lance? Sign me the fug up! Too good to be true....

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Post#62 » by blanko » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:04 am

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blanko wrote:Before Willy cauley stein got drafted, there was vids of him draining 3 pointers in workouts. It really doesn't mea much imho


Bamba actually does shoot them in games though. He's legit a stretch player.
Does he make them in games?

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Post#63 » by blanko » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:06 am

stuporman wrote:Knicks can get Bamba and Mikal with taking on Parsons and losing no other assets other than Lee/Lance? Sign me the fug up! Too good to be true....

We probably need to give up a first rounder abd two second rounders or a first/a swap/ two seconds

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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#64 » by RHODEY » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:09 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:Don't really like the idea of KP and Bamba. Two players over 7'1" in your starting lineup ain't winning in todays small ball NBA era regardless of their skillset. KP is my dawg and I'm about to feel some hate, but I would explore this -

#9/Lee/LFT/Baker for Parsons/#4 (draft Bamba)

KP/THJr/(2019 Swap pick) for Schroder/#3 (draft Doncic)/(2019 Swap pick)

Burke
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Bamba is 6'11"
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#65 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:12 am

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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#66 » by RHODEY » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:13 am

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Knick4Real wrote:According to DAILY KNICKS the plan is to trade up to #4 AND keep #9:

If the New York Knicks want to trade into the top five, it will require the organization to take on an atrocious contract. That may not be what one wants to hear with Joakim Noah already on the roster, but it’s the cost of potentially drafting an All-NBA talent.

Without much to offer, the Knicks’ proposal to the Memphis Grizzlies would have to be centered around a willingness to take back Chandler Parsons.

For those pondering the genesis: Memphis is reportedly open to moving the No. 4 pick if it means clearing Parsons off the books.

Grizzlies fans will argue that this wouldn’t happen without the No. 9 pick, but this is the only acceptable scenario. New York can justify two contractual catastrophes if it has two top-10 draft picks, but not if it walks away with only one.

In this scenario, it would have a core of Kristaps Porzingis, a top-five pick, a top-10 pick, Frank Ntilikina, and Tim Hardaway Jr.—with a 2019 lottery pick potentially on the way.


As for Memphis, this would create immediate flexibility. Parsons is owed $24,107,258 in 2018-19, whereas Lee and Thomas will make a combined $19,373,430—thus providing nearly $5 million in cap relief for the Grizzlies.

Throw in the fact that Thomas has a non-guaranteed salary for 2019-20, and the Grizzlies could be saving as much as $12,342,841 next season while adding players who fit the culture.


https://dailyknicks.com/2018/06/19/new-york-knicks-five-potential-trades-2018-nba-draft/2/


I’d be more than happy to be the joke of the league with thjr, parsons and Noah if we also draft bomba and bridges to join Porzingis and frank


Yep then just imagine when the contracts fall off the cap in a couple years...
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#67 » by SuperflyKnick » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:13 am

There is no reason to give 9th pick if ur taking on that insane contract...parsons 4th for lee Thomas 36th should be enough for 60 plus millions down the drain ...hello James Dolan
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Post#68 » by MP4LIFE » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:14 am

Wtf is Daily Knicks?

Can we quote legit sources please?
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#69 » by KnicksManiac » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:14 am

Would love to see something like this:

Knicks trade: 9, 36, Lee, Timmy
Grizz trade: 4, Parsons

Aren’t the Grizzlies trying to be a good team next year? They get rid of their dead weight — the worst contract in the NBA, Chandler Parsons. They add two very solid rotation players in Lee and Hardaway. That would immediately improve their depth. They also add an early second rounder. And for all of that, all they have to do is move down 5 little spots.

For New York: Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...and your deadweight players with terrible contracts. By doing this, we’ll ensure that we’ll be terrible in 2018-2019, we maintain our 2019 cap flexibility, and we remove an additional $17 Million off the books for 2020. Oh, and we’ll also get either Doncic or Bamba to add to our core.


Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think there are a lot of teams around the league who would be willing to take on $50 Million ($25 mill per year for the next two years) of deadweight. We can do that for the Grizzlies, give them two solid players, an early second rounder, and they just have to move down 5 spots.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#70 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:16 am

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BBALLER4FR wrote:Don't really like the idea of KP and Bamba. Two players over 7'1" in your starting lineup ain't winning in todays small ball NBA era regardless of their skillset. KP is my dawg and I'm about to feel some hate, but I would explore this -

#9/Lee/LFT/Baker for Parsons/#4 (draft Bamba)

KP/THJr/(2019 Swap pick) for Schroder/#3 (draft Doncic)/(2019 Swap pick)

Burke
Frank
Doncic
Kanter :banghead:
Bamba


Bamba is 6'11"


DraftExpress has him @ 7'
Wiki says 7'1"

I dunno. You might be right. Still Still don't see either him or KP as being "Durant type" long to keep with this new small ball - unless however, the Knicks plan to introduce a new brand of Tall Ball to the NBA.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#71 » by KnicksManiac » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:16 am

If there was a way to hold onto #9 and trade a future pick instead (2020 or later), that would obviously be ideal. Beggars can’t be choosers though.
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Post#72 » by stuporman » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:19 am

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stuporman wrote:Knicks can get Bamba and Mikal with taking on Parsons and losing no other assets other than Lee/Lance? Sign me the fug up! Too good to be true....

We probably need to give up a first rounder abd two second rounders or a first/a swap/ two seconds

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It depends on the number of teams willing to take on that much effing money, this is the crucial bit of leverage, the fewer the number of teams willing weakens the offer required to get it done. That is even before getting to the other variables involved, there's more to the equation.

The Knicks need to step up their negotiating game, what has been going on for many years is pretty terrible.
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Post#73 » by Boik14 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:23 am

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Boik14 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
*sigh*

I don’t care what the potential wingspan combo could be he’s a toothpick, we already went through this with KP.

He’s not a great shooter, his motor is inconsistent, when a body gets on him he turns Bitch and takes bad shots. KP needs to be more than a perimeter shooter, drafting Mo will make him precisely that.

*sigh*

He’s already altered his shooting motion...he’s been working with a shooting coach for months and has extended his range to the 3 point line.

As for the rest...patently false...except in the motor. He needs to be more consistent in his effort but I can say the same about Ayton and Bagley the later of which I absolutely think is the drafts best player
Lets be honest. Before Willy cauley stein got drafted, there was vids of him draining 3 pointers in workouts. It really doesn't mea much imho


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Except everyone who watched willie knew he was a Tyson Chandler type C with his offense dependent on PnR. Not the case with Bamba
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#74 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:24 am

SuperflyKnick wrote:There is no reason to give 9th pick if ur taking on that insane contract...parsons 4th for lee Thomas 36th should be enough for 60 plus millions down the drain ...hello James Dolan


you're undervaluing the #4 pick in the draft. It's a deep draft
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#75 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:25 am

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SuperflyKnick wrote:There is no reason to give 9th pick if ur taking on that insane contract...parsons 4th for lee Thomas 36th should be enough for 60 plus millions down the drain ...hello James Dolan


you're undervaluing the #4 pick in the draft. It's a deep draft


Memphis board has them getting Bradley Beal for No 4 and Parsons. They are certainly expecting more than THJr and Lance
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#76 » by Boik14 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:30 am

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SuperflyKnick wrote:There is no reason to give 9th pick if ur taking on that insane contract...parsons 4th for lee Thomas 36th should be enough for 60 plus millions down the drain ...hello James Dolan


you're undervaluing the #4 pick in the draft. It's a deep draft

It doesnt matter how deep the draft is, no one should be giving up a significant asset (like pick 9!!!) + taking on 49M over 2 years for a bum like Parsons who cant even play. You ONLY do that deal if you get pick 4 for something like Lee or THJR plus Lance...maybe a 2nd rd pick as a sweetner for 4. Parsons is done to the point where youre likely only relying on a medical waiver to get you out of that deal
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#77 » by Boik14 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:30 am

tuna108 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
SuperflyKnick wrote:There is no reason to give 9th pick if ur taking on that insane contract...parsons 4th for lee Thomas 36th should be enough for 60 plus millions down the drain ...hello James Dolan


you're undervaluing the #4 pick in the draft. It's a deep draft


Memphis board has them getting Bradley Beal for No 4 and Parsons. They are certainly expecting more than THJr and Lance

Than you hang up the phone and let some other sucker take the deal.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#78 » by RHODEY » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:37 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:Don't really like the idea of KP and Bamba. Two players over 7'1" in your starting lineup ain't winning in todays small ball NBA era regardless of their skillset. KP is my dawg and I'm about to feel some hate, but I would explore this -

#9/Lee/LFT/Baker for Parsons/#4 (draft Bamba)

KP/THJr/(2019 Swap pick) for Schroder/#3 (draft Doncic)/(2019 Swap pick)

Burke
Frank
Doncic
Kanter :banghead:
Bamba


Bamba is 6'11"


DraftExpress has him @ 7'
Wiki says 7'1"

I dunno. You might be right. Still Still don't see either him or KP as being "Durant type" long to keep with this new small ball - unless however, the Knicks plan to introduce a new brand of Tall Ball to the NBA.


I don't see why we need to follow trends. I rather set the new trend . Then let teams copy us. And really Both Bamba and KP are new age bigs....it can work..it can more than work... With KP and Bomba as your frontcourt you can switch and have your bigs guarding wings and ball handlers and play defense vs any team.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#79 » by SuperflyKnick » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:39 am

KnicksManiac wrote:Would love to see something like this:

Knicks trade: 9, 36, Lee, Timmy
Grizz trade: 4, Parsons

Aren’t the Grizzlies trying to be a good team next year? They get rid of their dead weight — the worst contract in the NBA, Chandler Parsons. They add two very solid rotation players in Lee and Hardaway. That would immediately improve their depth. They also add an early second rounder. And for all of that, all they have to do is move down 5 little spots.

For New York: Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...and your deadweight players with terrible contracts. By doing this, we’ll ensure that we’ll be terrible in 2018-2019, we maintain our 2019 cap flexibility, and we remove an additional $17 Million off the books for 2020. Oh, and we’ll also get either Doncic or Bamba to add to our core.


Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think there are a lot of teams around the league who would be willing to take on $50 Million ($25 mill per year for the next two years) of deadweight. We can do that for the Grizzlies, give them two solid players, an early second rounder, and they just have to move down 5 spots.



The most reasonable and effective idea I seen so far ... Memphis continuous to compete while ny gets that pick and continues to rebuild
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#80 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:44 am

KnicksManiac wrote:Would love to see something like this:

Knicks trade: 9, 36, Lee, Timmy
Grizz trade: 4, Parsons

Aren’t the Grizzlies trying to be a good team next year? They get rid of their dead weight — the worst contract in the NBA, Chandler Parsons. They add two very solid rotation players in Lee and Hardaway. That would immediately improve their depth. They also add an early second rounder. And for all of that, all they have to do is move down 5 little spots.

For New York: Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...and your deadweight players with terrible contracts. By doing this, we’ll ensure that we’ll be terrible in 2018-2019, we maintain our 2019 cap flexibility, and we remove an additional $17 Million off the books for 2020. Oh, and we’ll also get either Doncic or Bamba to add to our core.


Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think there are a lot of teams around the league who would be willing to take on $50 Million ($25 mill per year for the next two years) of deadweight. We can do that for the Grizzlies, give them two solid players, an early second rounder, and they just have to move down 5 spots.


Adding 36 hurts.

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