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Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox

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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#61 » by Greenie » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:06 pm

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KOA wrote:It's amazing to me that people keep pointing to his age as if that means anything. There's players who are young, have a strong skill-set, and continuously improve and get better. Then there are players like Kevin Knox. I doubt he gets a contract past his rookie deal. He's that bad...


The amount of declarations made that player X won't get another NBA contract after his rookie deal is hilarious. It's such a lazy thing to say.

This is a league where Bruno Caboclo is still getting chances. Youth and potential will yield contracts.


Wasn’t Bruno out of the league at 1 point?
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#62 » by cuyankees » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:02 pm

You can be 19 all you want but when your game is held back by your motor and mental approach, age will not save you.

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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#63 » by Stannis » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:38 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Oh, he's goink to NOLA. I hope he likes crayfish and jazz.

NOLA wants picks not low tier prospects. They didn't pull the trigger on the LAL trade even though they were getting loads of "prospects".


Where would you rank Knox on this list amongst the 3 likely suitors list of prospects?

Ball
Ingram
Kuzma
Hart
Tatum
Brown
Rozier
Williams
DSJ
Frank
Knox
Mitch



Tatum
Kuzma
Ingram
Mitch
(Big Gap)...
Brown
DSJ
Frank
Ball
Knox
Rozier
Williams
Hart

Not a trying to chit on Knox. He's only 19 and was draft at #9. He hasn't show anything. But he probably should have been in the D-League this season.



Truthfully, I don't think Boston's package is better than the Knicks, because the Knicks can add more picks, iirc.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#64 » by Greenie » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:16 am

cuyankees wrote:You can be 19 all you want but when your game is held back by your motor and mental approach, age will not save you.

Hopefully, Pills can get something for this whiff

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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#65 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:13 am

They’re different players obviously but Knox reminds me of Jordan Hill. I remember sering Hill at MSG in 2010 and thinking this guy just doesn’t love or respect the game. Although he seems like a bright kid, I get the same vibe from Knox. The body language is truly alarming.

I might be hard on Frank, and I may not believe in him, but I never disliked him. I absolutely dislike Knox’s selfishness, complacency and complete lack of character on the basketball court.

Trier might be inconsistent, but he’s got heart. Frank might be horrible, but he’s unselfish. Mitch’s focus comes and goes, but he’s fighting and he’s making an impact. Knox shows none of those things, and it’s even more apparent in person.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#66 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:33 am

If we're getting KD and AD, Foxy Knoxy is very expendable. Even if it's Middleton or Tobias, Knoxy is expendable. If you don't play some kind of defense, buh-bye.
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Post#67 » by Newyorknick94 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:36 am

Knox outplayed Wiggins last night
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#68 » by malik959 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:00 am

Man people are so quick to give up rookies and judge them off of their first year as if they all are supposed to come in playing like Lebron. Kids take time to learn the game. Imagine if Milwaukee gave up on Giannis or Dallas gave up on Dirk in their rookie years than they would have been rocking another Jersey. These kids need time to grow, get stronger, learn the game. I expect them to be up and down.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#69 » by BKAY » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:27 am

Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#70 » by dakomish23 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:59 am

I just wanna see what happens with a

DSJ
Dotson
Frank
Knox
Mitch

Lineup. Please give it at least 10 mins a game.

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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#71 » by Icandoallthings » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:29 am

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BKAY wrote:Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.

I think the issue is we see this differently. What makes Knox deserve the opportunity more than any 19 yo in the d league?
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#72 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:31 am

Icandoallthings wrote::evil:
BKAY wrote:Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.

I think the issue is we see this differently. What makes Knox deserve the opportunity more than any 19 yo in the d league?

Because we drafted him?
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#73 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:29 pm

BKAY wrote:Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.


Yeah it’s an especially stupid thing to say considering he had a very strong month to two month period. I expect him to put together another strong stretch before the end of the season.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#74 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:29 pm

Icandoallthings wrote::evil:
BKAY wrote:Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.

I think the issue is we see this differently. What makes Knox deserve the opportunity more than any 19 yo in the d league?


Uhh, talent?
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#75 » by Nazrmohamed » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:34 pm

I've gone almost three other way. I started out very high on him and lately the are things that just make me question him being a great player. You don't develop a motor so time won't heal this issue.

The way he sulks and hangs his head after every missed shot or play is concerning too. Everything else I actually feel hes ahead of schedule. The way he seemingly can eurostep his way anywhere and contort his body in the lane yet then spread the floor reminds you why his potential is so high but he's gotta fix his attitude big time or else we're looking at the next Tim Thomas and I'd argue Thomas was more talented.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#76 » by Cookies4Life » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:46 pm

He has the lowest RPM in the entire league. That's a hard statistic to avoid regardless of the potential but I will say his basic and advanced metrics should probably improve once he's playing with better talent around him.

I'd like to see him play taller on both ends; he has the size to be a problem for opposing defenses. As many have mentioned his body language is absolutely terrible (something that can definitely be fixed,) and his motor is below average at best (not too sure how that'll improve since that's more of an intrinsic quality.)

Anyway he's young and looks like he can be a versatile player offensively. He has a lot of work to do but the potential is absolutely there.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#77 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:53 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:I've gone almost three other way. I started out very high on him and lately the are things that just make me question him being a great player. You don't develop a motor so time won't heal this issue.

The way he sulks and hangs his head after every missed shot or play is concerning too. Everything else I actually feel hes ahead of schedule. The way he seemingly can eurostep his way anywhere and contort his body in the lane yet then spread the floor reminds you why his potential is so high but he's gotta fix his attitude big time or else we're looking at the next Tim Thomas and I'd argue Thomas was more talented.


I wish the knicks had a vet on the roster who could kinda take him under his wing and address some of that stuff. I think it would do wonders for a kid like Knox. Lance is a nice guy but he’s a bottom of the roster type and was never a top player in the league. DJ just got here and I don’t think he has the personality for that type of role anyway although he seems to be helping Mitch.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#78 » by Icandoallthings » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:41 pm

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Icandoallthings wrote::evil:
BKAY wrote:Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.

I think the issue is we see this differently. What makes Knox deserve the opportunity more than any 19 yo in the d league?

Because we drafted him?


Ok I understood that point of view. Drafting someone is not enough of a reason for me to believe that they will do well. We make be picking nits here since if he was a late first round pick I would have no real issue with him.
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#79 » by Icandoallthings » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:42 pm

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Icandoallthings wrote::evil:
BKAY wrote:Do some of you really think Knox is showing nothing? Pretty ridiculous standards being created for rookies, especially ones that are basically children.

I think the issue is we see this differently. What makes Knox deserve the opportunity more than any 19 yo in the d league?


Uhh, talent?

That plus $2.50 gets you a ride on the subway. Lol
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Re: Fort Knox: A defense of Kevin Knox 

Post#80 » by taj2133 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:48 pm

Icandoallthings wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:
Icandoallthings wrote::evil:
I think the issue is we see this differently. What makes Knox deserve the opportunity more than any 19 yo in the d league?


Uhh, talent?

That plus $2.50 gets you a ride on the subway. Lol

If you wanted to put knox in the d league then put frank d league because frank hasn't show anything this year, knox has shown lot more then frank has.

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