2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 2)

[Newyorknick94]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/tyrese-haliburton

This kid looks promising

[RHODEY]

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[islanders11040]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/tyrese-haliburton

This kid looks promising

i found myself saying the same thing today.

[Mecca]

Maxey ceiling is interesting

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[HerSports85]

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[3toheadmelo]

Edwards still my #2 but there is some concerns about his motor. We need a player who plays hard all the time

Edwards might gradually emerge as the consensus safest pick at the top of the draft, which is odd considering the Georgia guard has yet to put together a full game where he was locked in from start to finish: operating at maximum intensity, making good decisions with the ball consistently and finding ways to use his tremendous tools to make an impact on both ends of the floor.

The theoretical version of Edwards at his peak -- a long-armed, hyperathletic, multipositional guard who can dribble, pass, shoot and defend -- is far more enticing at the moment than what he's actually shown.

To this point in the season, he has been plagued with inconsistency, passivity and inefficiency, but his extreme youth, less-than-ideal team situation and flashes of brilliance in small doses seemingly give him an edge. Those inconsistencies are not as worrisome to NBA executives as the major red flags his competitors for No. 1 carry.

Edwards still has quite a bit to prove over the next two months, but the door is wide open for him to emerge as the presumptive favorite.

[Spree2Houston]

Tank for 2 more seasons. End up with a lineup of:

Anthony Edwards
RJ Barrett
Emoni Bates
Evan Mobley
Mitchell Robinson

Juggernaut in the EAST

firstly, 3 small forwards and 2 centers? also, 2 more years of tanking, hell no. Emoni Bates might be the next generational superstar but there is no way in hell we're going to be in position to draft him unless we make some weird ass lakers voo doo trade where we end up competing and somehow get the first pick in the draft.

i take it back. we're going to be ass forever.

[3toheadmelo]

I don’t get what y’all see in Cole Anthony. I would not waste my pick on him unless we are picking like #8 and he’s still there

How do NBA teams view Anthony?

Anthony has always been a bit of a tough sell for some scouts because at times he demonstrates a ball-dominant style of play with questionable shots, head-down drives and lapses defensively. His high school and AAU teams almost always underachieved relative to their talent, and there have long been questions about how much his teammates like playing with him.

If that was your perception going into the season -- and it's a belief held by quite a few NBA scouts -- then nothing Anthony showed at North Carolina was particularly surprising or encouraging.

The complicating factor in Anthony's decision to return or prepare for the draft is the fact that he did not play particularly well in his nine college games. He shot just 37.8% from 2-point range and averaged more turnovers than assists. UNC was 6-3 in that span, with just a single win over a top-60 opponent.

Anthony's collegiate production tells an alarming story, as the list of NBA draft picks to shoot under 40% from 2-point range with a negative assist-to-turnover ratio over the past 40 years is extremely poor, consisting of only Syracuse's Malachi Richardson and Duke's Cam Reddish. Neither comp inspires much confidence.

Anthony's porous offensive efficiency, the lack of impact he had on winning, the plethora of guard alternatives in this draft class and the background intel on his locker-room impact might necessitate a return to the floor for Anthony to become a guaranteed top-five pick. Basketball industry sources told ESPN that Anthony will be entering his sneaker negotiations with little to no momentum should his college career be over, which would cost him quite a bit of money on top of whatever he could already lose by potentially dropping in the draft.

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[moocow007]

I don’t get what y’all see in Cole Anthony. I would not waste my pick on him unless we are picking like #8 and he’s still there

How do NBA teams view Anthony?

Anthony has always been a bit of a tough sell for some scouts because at times he demonstrates a ball-dominant style of play with questionable shots, head-down drives and lapses defensively. His high school and AAU teams almost always underachieved relative to their talent, and there have long been questions about how much his teammates like playing with him.

If that was your perception going into the season -- and it's a belief held by quite a few NBA scouts -- then nothing Anthony showed at North Carolina was particularly surprising or encouraging.

The complicating factor in Anthony's decision to return or prepare for the draft is the fact that he did not play particularly well in his nine college games. He shot just 37.8% from 2-point range and averaged more turnovers than assists. UNC was 6-3 in that span, with just a single win over a top-60 opponent.

Anthony's collegiate production tells an alarming story, as the list of NBA draft picks to shoot under 40% from 2-point range with a negative assist-to-turnover ratio over the past 40 years is extremely poor, consisting of only Syracuse's Malachi Richardson and Duke's Cam Reddish. Neither comp inspires much confidence.

Anthony's porous offensive efficiency, the lack of impact he had on winning, the plethora of guard alternatives in this draft class and the background intel on his locker-room impact might necessitate a return to the floor for Anthony to become a guaranteed top-five pick. Basketball industry sources told ESPN that Anthony will be entering his sneaker negotiations with little to no momentum should his college career be over, which would cost him quite a bit of money on top of whatever he could already lose by potentially dropping in the draft.

Yep. Now if he was Westbrook in terms of attacking the basket but aside from questions about his shooting ability, there's also growing concerns about his ability to actually get to the basket at the next level.

[moocow007]

Right now I think the Knicks best bet is probably to take the dive into the Lamelo Ball Experience.

Ball may have his warts but he just makes it look so easy on the court that you think if you can get him focused that he could very well be the best player in this draft. No one else in this draft can go about and do his thing and not seem to break a sweat or just be tuned in all the time. And on top of that he apparently is still growing so you could be talking about 6'8"-6'9" PG here with about as natural a true point instinct as has been seen in a long time.

[DOT]

Ball is extremely high risk high reward

He has much more potential than a guy like Haliburton, but if we look back in 10 years I would not be surprised if Haliburton has the better career

With that being said, I think especially at the top of the draft you have to go with potential and risk over playing it safe. Same argument I had last year as why I liked Culver but would take RJ at 3 every time over him

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[Manhattan Project]

Right now I think the Knicks best bet is probably to take the dive into the Lamelo Ball Experience.

Ball may have his warts but he just makes it look so easy on the court that you think if you can get him focused that he could very well be the best player in this draft. No one else in this draft can go about and do his thing and not seem to break a sweat or just be tuned in all the time. And on top of that he apparently is still growing so you could be talking about 6'8"-6'9" PG here with about as natural a true point instinct as has been seen in a long time.

The warts are so ugly though. Literally has no interest in defending, gambles for steals, the shot selection all of it. Combine that with the lack of the Knicks ability to develop players or grow them out of their bad habits, Ball is a tough pillow to swallow. You're right, his passing ability is down right impressive, his vision is awesome and combine that with his height and there's reason why even with all his warts he's an interesting prospect.

For me I'd probably have it Edwards, Wiseman and then Ball. Though it's a shame that we won't see anymore of Wiseman or Ball.

[Spree2Houston]

I'm hoping for Edwards but Ball would be my 2nd choice. He would solidify our chances of another top 3 pick 2021 and 2022. The floor spacing with Ball and Barrett will lead to 50+ losses

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[moocow007]

Any team with multiple lottery picks? If the Knicks luck into a top 3 maybe they can trade down. May make more sense this year than it did last year.

Mannion + McDaniels? Haliburton + Okungwu?

[2010]

you probably want to trade RJ if you are drafting lamelo. lamelo is a guy who has to have the ball in his hands. rj isn't a good off ball player unless he can fix the shot to a high level, and his best skill is the passing.

No you don’t, cause he’s not a primary ball handler. Besides, He needs to improve his shooting regardless.

RJ isn't very effective without the ball in his hands. they clearly drafted him to be the primary and should sell him to a team that still think he could be that.

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[Adelheid]

I want Haliburton

[bleedblue3303]

Emoni Bates wants to reclassify and play next year for MSU. We tank harder than ever before next year if this is true!!


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[3toheadmelo]

Emoni Bates wants to reclassify and play next year for MSU. We tank harder than ever before next year if this is true!!


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Do it whatever it takes to get him in a knicks uniform. Send all of our Dallas picks to move up and include the whole team for Bates if necessary. That dude is the truth.