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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#61 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:49 pm

GONYK wrote:It's very nice to see that Biden is polling outside of the MOE in places like PA, FL, and MI, and that those margins are pretty steady from poll to poll.


I just read that that the 45% levels are now showing up for Trump in key swing states and dropping, FL included vs. 50% or higher for Biden. In FL, for instance, the job rating is 55%/45% negative. This is recent, the past month.

For his national averages to dip into the 30s is bad for him and the GOP, but if he falls to 40-42% support in swing states Trump may only win the Children of the Corn states and lose by a 2-1 margin to Biden in the electoral college.

I'd say the odds are Trump will lose a few more points across the board, including the battleground states as the virus keeps rolling, he does nothing helpful for Americans and he doubles down on dog whistle tactics.

At least New York will have the honor of putting him behind bars in 2021.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#62 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:14 am

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#63 » by Stannis » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:17 am

There's still a democratic primary??
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#64 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:23 am

Stannis wrote:There's still a democratic primary??


We sent a message to GONYK via one of Mike Tyson's messenger pigeons to let him know it was over, but I think the bird got lost
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#65 » by GONYK » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:54 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Stannis wrote:There's still a democratic primary??


We sent a message to GONYK via one of Mike Tyson's messenger pigeons to let him know it was over, but I think the bird got lost

We're still in Primary season, y'all. Doesn't end until August.

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#66 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:59 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Stannis wrote:There's still a democratic primary??


We sent a message to GONYK via one of Mike Tyson's messenger pigeons to let him know it was over, but I think the bird got lost

ravens, not pigeons ... and Kyrie is to blame.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#67 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:18 am

Stannis wrote:There's still a democratic primary??


No. That over. It’s all about making sure that Joe Biden remains a-hiding. :lol:
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#68 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:36 am

GONYK wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Stannis wrote:There's still a democratic primary??


We sent a message to GONYK via one of Mike Tyson's messenger pigeons to let him know it was over, but I think the bird got lost

We're still in Primary season, y'all. Doesn't end until August.

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#69 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:58 am

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#70 » by robillionaire » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:03 am

I laughed my ass off when he said "THEY'RE SELLIN' BEANS"
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#71 » by blanko » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:10 am

If the dems mess this up this election, it would be the one of the greatest failures on the party/bidens campaign. In a historical scale.



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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#72 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:11 am

robillionaire wrote:I laughed my ass off when he said "THEY'RE SELLIN' BEANS"


Yeah, it was perfect. He's got that mock horror outrage face down pat
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#73 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:18 am

blanko wrote:If the dems mess this up this election, it would be the one of the greatest failures on the party/bidens campaign. In a historical scale.

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The correct phrasing is if the Trump campaign does anything right between now and the election it would be the most epic reversal of a failing campaign strategy in political history. The Democrats aren't fcking up anything. They know Trump is like a blooper reel from The Dawn of the Dead on a constant loop and they've already shown they are smart enough to not do anything stupid like interfere with Trump's insatiable need for attention.

Trump is turning into a single-handed wrecking crew sent from heaven to demolish the GOP. Dems are going to let him do that to himself not because of the silly meme that Biden must hide in the basement, but because nobody should try to distract from Trump flaunting his mental illness. It would be political malpractice by Biden's advisors to try and grab the spotlight from this self-immolating fool.
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Post#74 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:17 pm

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#75 » by duetta » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:58 pm

All Biden has to do to win is to properly execute the same rope-a-dope strategy that Ali used against George Foreman. And that's what he's doing.
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Post#76 » by Kampuchea » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:18 pm

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#77 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:20 pm

Let's all take a walk down Memory Lane as we slowly plod our way to the November election.

Some people just can't let certain things go. :rofl: "Colin Powell! Come on down!" He still needs answers and, by golly, it sure looks like he's determined to get them. Why doesn't he just ask Joe Biden what he knows, eh? Biden, after all, was Chair of the Foreign Intelligence Committee at the time. :P

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/magazine/colin-powell-iraq-war.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Colin Powell Still Wants Answers
In 2003, he made the case for invading Iraq to halt its weapons programs. The analysts who provided the intelligence now say it was doubted inside the C.I.A. at the time.

By Robert Draper
July 16, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

Early one morning in August 2002, Jack Straw, the British foreign minister at the time, drove with a small entourage to a beach house in East Hampton on Long Island. The house belonged to the billionaire Ronald Lauder, who for most of August was hosting his good friend and Straw’s American counterpart, Colin Powell.

The foreign minister and the secretary of state had become extraordinarily close over the previous year. Powell’s customary 11 p.m. calls to the Straw household had prompted Straw’s wife to refer to him as “the other man in my life.” The August meeting at the Lauder residence, Powell would later say, was an attempt to answer a question: “Could we both stop a war?”

For nearly a year — since just a few days after the Sept. 11 attacks — Powell had watched as the idea of invading Iraq, once the preoccupation of a handful of die-hards in other corners of the Bush administration, took on increasingly undeniable momentum. Powell thought such an invasion would be disastrous — and yet the prospect had for months seemed so preposterous to Powell and his deputies at the State Department that he assumed it would burn out of its own accord.

But by that August, it had become evident to Powell that he was not winning the argument. On Monday, Aug. 5, a couple of weeks before the meeting in East Hampton, he and Condoleezza Rice, President George W. Bush’s national security adviser, joined Bush for dinner at the White House residence. For two hours, Rice said little while Powell proceeded to do what no one else in the Bush administration had done or would do: tell the president to his face that things in Iraq could go horribly wrong. “If you break it, you own it,” he famously told Bush. “This will become your first term.”

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#78 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:46 pm

81% of Democrats favor Medicare4All. But that's not enough for Joe Biden?

And look who's now on the M4A bandwagon after all of the dumping she did on Bernie Sanders and his healthcare plan during the primary. The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

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Post#79 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:11 pm

Look who's swooped in to save Joe Biden. We should all acknowledge which direction this is going to go.

Joe's going to look out for the Main Streeters. Who wouldn't believe that, right? :noway:

I guess Joe doesn't have that grass roots support so the billionaire crowd is coming to the rescue. I'm sure they'll remind him of that come January 2021. Here's a list of people/businesses Joe will owe favors to after he's elected.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/12/07/here-are-the-billionaires-backing-joe-bidens-presidential-campaign/#17c8c2f5159e

Biden’s billionaire backers, ordered by net worth:

Spoiler:
JIM SIMONS

Net worth: $21.6 billion*

Source of wealth: Hedge funds

Size of donation: $2,800

Also supported: Michael Bennet, Jay Inslee (dropout)

Other notable contributions: DNC Services Corp./Democratic National Committee ($355,000); Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee ($246,000); Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee ($246,500)**


LEN AND EMILY BLAVATNIK

Net worth: $19.5 billion

Source of wealth: Diversified

Size of donation: $5,600

Also supported: Pete Buttigieg

Other notable contributions: DCCC ($248,500); McCarthy Victory Fund, to support California Republican congressman Kevin McCarthy ($200,000)


ERIC SCHMIDT

Net worth: $15.3 billion

Source of wealth: Google

Size of donation: $2,800

Also supported: Cory Booker

Other notable contributions: Nancy Pelosi Victory Fund ($35,500)


STEWART AND LYNDA RESNICK

Net worth: $9 billion

Source of wealth: Agriculture, water

Size of donation: $5,600

Also supported: Michael Bennet, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris (dropout), John Hickenlooper (dropout), Amy Klobuchar

Other notable contributions: Nancy Pelosi Victory Fund ($518,200)


JOHN AND ANN DOERR

Net worth: $7.6 billion

Source of wealth: Venture capital

Size of donation: $5,600

Also supported: Cory Booker, Kamala Harris (dropout)

Other notable contributions: Nancy Pelosi Victory Fund ($92,200)


ELI BROAD

Net worth: $6.8 billion

Source of wealth: Home building, financial services

Size of donation: $2,800

Also supported: Michael Bennet, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris (dropout)

Other notable contributions: PAC For A Change, a political action committee that opposes Republican candidates ($25,000)


MELLODY HOBSON, WIFE OF GEORGE LUCAS

Spouse’s net worth: $6.4 billion

Source of wealth: Star Wars

Size of donation: $2,800

Also supported: Cory Booker, Kamala Harris (dropout), John Hickenlooper (dropout)

Other notable contributions: DSCC ($35,500); DCCC ($35,500)


KATHARINE RAYNER

Net worth: $6.4 billion

Source of wealth: Media, automotive

Size of donation: $2,000

Also supported: Pete Buttigieg

Other notable contributions: DCCC ($35,500)


KATHERINE FARLEY, WIFE OF JERRY SPEYER

Spouse’s net worth: $4 billion

Source of wealth: Real estate

Size of donation: $2,800

Also supported: Amy Klobuchar


NEIL BLUHM

Net worth: $3.9 billion

Source of wealth: Real estate

Size of donation: $2,800

Also supported: Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand (dropout), John Hickenlooper (dropout)

Other notable contributions: Delgado for Congress, to support New York Democratic congressman Antonio Delgado ($2,800)


JONATHAN AND MINDY GRAY

Net worth: $3.8 billion

Source of wealth: Blackstone

Size of donation: $5,600

Also supported: Michael Bennet, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, Kirsten Gillibrand (dropout), Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris (dropout), John Hickenlooper (dropout), Seth Moulton (dropout), Beto O’Rourke (dropout)

Other notable contributions: DSCC ($71,000); DCCC ($71,000)


-and more and more and more-


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/16/biden-committees-raise-nearly-100-million-as-spielberg-james-murdoch-others-donate.html

Joe Biden’s joint committees raise nearly $100 million in second quarter as big-money donors get off the sidelines
PUBLISHED THU, JUL 16 202012:01 PM EDTUPDATED AN HOUR AGO
Brian Schwartz
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KEY POINTS

-Many of Joe Biden’s bundlers told CNBC that the renewed effort by these business leaders is linked to the fact that Sen. Bernie Sanders and more liberal candidates are no longer a threat to becoming president.

-Donors to the Biden committees include James Murdoch, Steven Spielberg and Merck CEO Ken Frazier.

-“The big-money donors are capitalists. For a minute Bernie was close to locking it up but then came South Carolina. They were petrified of Trump and horrified by Bernie. Now they actually have a choice, before they didn’t,” Florida businessman and Biden bundler John Morgan told CNBC.


Joe Biden and his joint fundraising committees combined to raise close to $100 million in the second quarter on the backs of many new donors from the business community who have come off the sidelines to help him try to defeat President Donald Trump.

Biden’s committees, the Biden Victory Fund and Biden Action Fund, are also raising money for the Democratic National Committee and state parties, making the massive haul even more significant for their efforts to take down Trump and Republicans as a whole come November.

Biden Victory, according to the latest Federal Election Commission filings, raised close to $86 million, while Biden Action brought in around $11 million in the second quarter. The two committees combined have more than $90 million on hand going into the third quarter.

Biden and the DNC outraised Trump and the Republican National Committee in the second quarter, with the Democrats raking in $282 million and the GOP pulling in $266 million. Trump’s two joint committees combined to raise close to $150 million, with much of it coming from small donors to the Trump Make America Great Again Committee.

James Murdoch, son of conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch and former CEO of 21st Century Fox, gave $615,000 to Biden Victory in late June, which is close to the most a donor can give to the joint committee. Jeff Lawson, CEO of cloud platform Twilio, gave just more than $620,000. Meg Whitman, CEO of media company Quibi, contributed $500,000. Bob Iger, executive chairman of Disney, gave $250,000, as did legendary movie director Steven Spielberg. Dustin Moskovitz, who co-founded Facebook with Mark Zuckerberg, gave one of his biggest checks of the cycle to Biden Victory in late June, worth more than $620,000.

Ken Frazier, the Merck CEO who was once on Trump’s business advisory council, gave $50,000 to Biden Victory in May. Frazier resigned from the administration’s American Advisory Council three years ago in protest of the president’s response to demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia. While he’s given to some other Democratic causes this cycle, records show Frazier has also backed allies of Trump’s, including committees linked to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.

Another donor that seemingly came out of nowhere to give big to the Biden-DNC committee is Eli Reinhard. He contributed over $620,000 to Biden Victory in June, his biggest contribution ever, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

Reinhard, a California-based real estate developer and philanthropist, has a mixed donation history. His previous biggest donation came in 2008 with a $10,000 contribution to the Republican Party of California. He’s also given to former New York Mayor and current Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign, and made donations to former Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown’s 2010 Senate campaign.

Biden’s success also comes after numerous virtual big-money events that were hosted by billionaire Tom Steyer, Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama. Outside Biden groups were also a boost to the former vice president. Anti-Trump super PAC the Lincoln Project raised more than $16 million in the second quarter, and American Bridge brought in close to the same amount.

Many of Biden’s bundlers told CNBC that the renewed effort by these business leaders is linked to the fact that Sen. Bernie Sanders and more liberal candidates are no longer a threat to becoming president. There’s also a sense that Biden is going to defeat Trump, with most polls showing the president consistently down against the former vice president.

Trump has been floundering in the polls since the early goings of the coronavirus pandemic and during the ongoing protests since the death of George Floyd, something donors have also taken note of and responded to with big checks for Biden in the month of June, as CNBC reported.

A recent CNBC/Change Research poll shows Biden ahead of Trump in the key swing states of Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. A Quinnipiac poll suggests voters are starting to trust Trump less on his handling of the economy. Only 44% of the survey’s participants approve of the way Trump is dealing with the economy, compared with 52% from the month before.

“The big-money donors are capitalists. For a minute Bernie was close to locking it up, but then came South Carolina. They were petrified of Trump and horrified by Bernie. Now they actually have a choice, before they didn’t,” Florida businessman and Biden bundler John Morgan told CNBC.

Mike Kempner, who has been helping Biden raise cash since the early goings of the primary, points to Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic and the nationwide unrest that’s pulling big-money donors closer to Biden.

“People are appalled by his actions and as a result are donating unprecedented dollars to Biden. With their dollars, people are showing overwhelming support for the decency of Joe Biden over the hate of Donald Trump,” Kempner, CEO of public relations juggernaut MWWPR, told CNBC on Thursday.

A senior Biden fundraiser on Wall Street, who declined to be named as this person wanted to keep the remarks private, said that even Democratic business leaders who have seen their companies flourish under Trump say that they’re fed up with the president’s handling of the pandemic and other national crises, leading to their industries taking a financial hit.

“You knew Trump was crazy, but now you believe he is crazy and now he’s going to hurt you more than he can help you,” this financier said.

Another Biden fundraiser, who asked to remain anonymous, said that despite the former vice president saying he is going to raise corporate taxes, and in some cases, individual rates, donors believe his policies would be a balance of liberal and moderate alternatives to what Trump has put in place.

“Joe is a known entity, and while he is socially liberal, he is not someone who is erratic. He is thoughtful and focused on the entire country, not one faction of the country,” this bundler said.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#80 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:26 pm

robillionaire wrote:the primary is over, why do we even still need this thread lol


Because :evil: Look above ^^^^^^^^ :lol:
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