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2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#61 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 7, 2020 7:54 pm

nedleeds wrote:Now do Vox.


Are you indicating they are a Chinese surrogate?

Vox in my experience is nothing on the level of Breitbart or Daily Caller, so I'd like to know what your specific objections are.

One thing I'm not advocating is some vague substantiation of "objectivity". I do believe every piece of writing and reporting has some inherent subjective element, thus I'm not saying a right wing publication has no place in the mix. I have been posting Dow Jones tweets for a reason. However, the core facts can usually be verified and that ultimately is the best barometer to work with. I don't see how that would demote Vox to the level of those other alt right sites that clearly lie about the facts constantly
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#62 » by Oscirus » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:03 pm

Cute hail mary.

Honestly though, I don't think the senators are even worried about keeping the senate, they just want to get that 6th judge on the court.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#63 » by robillionaire » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:06 pm

Thepaintismine wrote:Yo, I don't think this is going to end well for Biden. I predict Biden will be stepping down before the election.

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Smells like desperation , unverified Twitter can’t save him, it’s too late for email hysteria, the hits are not landing anymore
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#64 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:14 pm

This rabble rousing BS is two years old and already died on the vine with "investigations" that were opened and close with no findings. The whole FISA scandal that was going to blow the doors off the roof was a big nothing.

This is really desperate and will change nothing since there's nothing there. This is the Benghazi shuffle all over again that only the mindless cult drones pretend are going to shake things up

Trump and the GOP are freaking because Eric Trump just sat this Monday for an ALL DAY LONG deposition with Tish James. Yeah, that went well. The Trump Organization is on the ropes

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519696-new-york-attorney-generals-office-deposing-eric-trump-in-tax

AND

Vance has said their probe has expanded into various Trump family criminal activities

Everything has already crumbled. It's over for Trump and many of these Senators up for re-election
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#65 » by Oscirus » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:14 pm

why do i have the feeling that in his rush to declassify a bunch of **** that hes gonna **** up and declassify something he shouldnt?
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#66 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:15 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#67 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:18 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:McSally flamed out very much like Trump did in her debate with Mark Kelly. AZ Senate seat is going blue


I live here, don't trust your eyes or polls when it comes to AZ, the GOP controls the state politics and Ducey (pronounced Dooshy no matter what anybody else says) is a Trump stooge. I won't believe it until I see it and I still may not believe it if I see it because it's AZ.

Although, cannabis legalization is back on the ballot and more than a decade ago it lost by something like 10% but 4 years ago it only lost by 67k votes, less than 1%, so this purple state trending blue may actually pass it this time....yay.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#68 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:32 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:He gets it
Read on Twitter


Better late than never. It’s amazing how going down the left rabbit hole usually leads to more compassion and understanding. Funny how that works.


Trumpism is all about being aggro and then accusing those who react to you as being equally aggro.

It must feel very strange for someone to awaken from that bubble and realize they don't have to be like that, that supporting government that takes care of its people is not weak, but just, and that dismantling GOP power politics is good for the soul.


You nailed it on the head. It’s that they’re inside a bubble and constantly spoon fed bull. They don’t realize that the caricatures on Fox News and the right wing media aren’t true. Talk to people, interact with them. They’ll learn that there is no radical left, just people who believe the that government can be a source for good and help the most vulnerable amongst us. And even people on the left despise people with hateful beliefs and ideologies, they don’t want to harm them. I’ll always remember this video from AOC that you’ll never see on Fox News or Breitbart

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#69 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:34 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:McSally flamed out very much like Trump did in her debate with Mark Kelly. AZ Senate seat is going blue


I live here, don't trust your eyes or polls when it comes to AZ, the GOP controls the state politics and Ducey (pronounced Dooshy no matter what anybody else says) is a Trump stooge. I won't believe it until I see it and I still may not believe it if I see it because it's AZ.

Although, cannabis legalization is back on the ballot and more than a decade ago it lost by something like 10% but 4 years ago it only lost by 67k votes, less than 1%, so this purple state trending blue may actually pass it this time....yay.


Aside from the hispanic demographic shift, you've got your many retirees no matter how Republican they may have been. Same here in Florida. And there has been a massive shift in their POV now that many of those over 65 feel like Trump is trying to kill them so he won't have to make their SS payments. Trump without the senior citizen vote is not a viable candidate, but you know AZ and I don't so I'll take your word for it that we need to wait and see.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#70 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:41 pm

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I have never seen someone discredit themselves as thoroughly as Dr. Conley has. Even Deborah Birx had some good moments before she turned into a Trump parasite
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#71 » by GONYK » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:44 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#72 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:50 pm

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After Parscales meltdown, he's being investigated for stealing $40M from the Trump campaign funds. He probably did steal from Trump, but if it is that much money missing I'd guess some of that went to Trump's family as well.

They're broke. Their mega donors shut their wallets a month or two ago when they already expected a loss and they can't finance jack now.

Parscale had a crack-up and it is obvious he was in trouble before, but he is in even more trouble on so many levels now with the hostage taking and domestic abuse charges hanging over his head. I expect he will be a very rich source of incriminating testimony in order to stay out of prison. He may still do time, because lawd this guy committed so many crimes.

Trump is broke. His campaign is broke.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#73 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:30 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#74 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:33 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Just to get one thing straight:

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This topic is not unlike Matryoshka dolls of Russian mail order brides!
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#75 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:35 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:So now that it has revealed the WH didn't even have a regular testing schedule for Trump, we don't even know for sure when he got infected.

It does mean he could have been infected when he went to the debate in Cleveland.

The questions I have are:

when did he truly know and did he know he had it or a member of his maskless entourage had it by that Tuesday?


I believe they did, but are claiming they didn't, as it would implicate Trump as the super spreader.

Anyway, that's the theory going around various uber liberal sites, though intelligent ones. Emptywheel, for instance, has speculated on it, or people have within it's topics.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#76 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:40 pm

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stuporman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:McSally flamed out very much like Trump did in her debate with Mark Kelly. AZ Senate seat is going blue


I live here, don't trust your eyes or polls when it comes to AZ, the GOP controls the state politics and Ducey (pronounced Dooshy no matter what anybody else says) is a Trump stooge. I won't believe it until I see it and I still may not believe it if I see it because it's AZ.

Although, cannabis legalization is back on the ballot and more than a decade ago it lost by something like 10% but 4 years ago it only lost by 67k votes, less than 1%, so this purple state trending blue may actually pass it this time....yay.


Aside from the hispanic demographic shift, you've got your many retirees no matter how Republican they may have been. Same here in Florida. And there has been a massive shift in their POV now that many of those over 65 feel like Trump is trying to kill them so he won't have to make their SS payments. Trump without the senior citizen vote is not a viable candidate, but you know AZ and I don't so I'll take your word for it that we need to wait and see.


AZ is very unique in that even though republicans have a slight edge over democrats in party registration those who identify as independent make up almost a third of registered voters. About 100k voters is the difference between the three different groups.

Those independents which I am a part of are made up of a wide array of types of voters that are difficult to predict how they will vote from election to election. AZ is a very independent minded state and those independent voters don't trust party politics.

Independent AZ voters are everything from intolerant of others beliefs/ideas who hate the government and many are now full blown Q brained Trumpers or they can be tolerant 'live as you want to just don't bother me' who don't hate the government but just don't truth politicians.

There's such a mix of ideas, concepts, beliefs and behavior it's hard to say it's just one way, two ways a few ways. It's very much a spectrum and people are dotted all along it so very hard to know how they will vote. That independent group used to be more socially conservative but is growing more socially liberal along with the state and is very unpredictable.

The older and Hispanic voters here in AZ are more diverse from left to right than someone would anticipate. Also, people like their guns in AZ because it's such a rural state so that is the only thing that keeps the state from going very blue because they assume dems want to take their guns.

The GOP is doing everything it can shady and deceitful or whatever to keep control over the state which is about like the rest of the states that have a purple hue to it after a history of red rule. The 'silent majority' as they call themselves is nowadays really a noisy minority that cheats alot.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#77 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:42 pm

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Covita! ha ha ha


I could make ads as good as those ... maybe even better bwahahahah.

It just goes to show that the DNC is completely inept when it comes to campaigning.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#78 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:43 pm

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nedleeds wrote:Hahahahaah I wish it was a joke. But look who is running this year man, a grifter reality TV star and a corpse. You'd snap pull the **** lever for The Rock and Mark Cuban this year, admit it.


Gotta say I agree with you. I mean, the rock is an actor and wrestler and cuban is a reality tv host on shark tank with the reputation of a business man and trump is an actor reality tv host and business man and also in the wwe hall of fame. eric bischoff predicted this would happen in his ted talk. we are already in president mountain dew camacho territory that rubicon has been crossed

personally I blame the reality tv show boom of the 2000s especially american idol


Cuban is more of a self made business man than Trump could ever hope to claim. I think he'd resonate with SMB owners despite being a billionaire. He's a secular libertarian (?), so it's probably the case that he couldn't get either parties nomination. As a democrat he puts the stake through the heart of the socialists, as a Republican he doesn't push any bible banger issues. Assuming the republicans lose this election I can see him maybe being their candidate in 2016. They need to get younger, more secular and reinvent themselves as the SMB party.

That being said I'd have never thought Trump would have gotten the RNC ballot in 2016, so anything can happen.


His best play would be to start making compassionate media plays to appear more "liberal" (you know, say, like riding to the rescue of Delonte West....) and make various pro liberal/pro government type noises, along with his social libertarian thing. Then he runs on the Dem ticket as the pro business democrat who respects all the liberal social values via his libertarianism.

That would seem to be his possible path to election one day.
Honestly, in the current political climate, he'd probably pass neither parties ideological litmus tests. As you indicated.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#79 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:48 pm

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RealGM (the Knicks board really , can't speak for this site overall) really should clamp down on nutty posts citing propaganda sites. It is not paranoia to repeatedly state Russian memes are being pushed in the U.S. via alt right news sites and social media feeds. We should not be a part of that food chain


Now do China.


So, this magically makes the Russian version not exist?

Yup, they are both doing it.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#80 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 7, 2020 10:06 pm

RT isn't an arm of the Russian govt and gets no editorial input from it. It's very independent and has become the home of most of the anti-imperial voices of Americans who MSM including the conservative outlets won't platform because they like the money from the corporate overlords.

The MSM either run cover for or have full throated support for the bloodthirsty war mongering, international meddling, political corruption, environmental catastrophe, corporate criminality and anything else their sponsors want because they getting rich and don't care about people other than the eyeballs they get from them.

They are story tellers spinning establishment narratives on events that happen not actually truth tellers providing the facts and reality of what's going on. Unfortunately the alt-media is also filled with just as many grifters hoping to cash in from bubble feeding.

It's very hard to find real organic information without it covered in processed bias spin.
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