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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#61 » by rajajackal » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:01 am

Besart19 wrote:What I hope: Harden

What i expect: J.Rose

What I fear: Fields



hahaha i actually understand the fields comparison. i think we've already jumped that floor. i never got the harden comp though. RJ's built like a tank, and harden's more of a soft-bodied kind of skills guy

i think if you look at paul pierce's rookie tape, you can see a lot of RJ barrett

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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#62 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:01 am

Fat Kat wrote:Surround the kid with players that can hit a jump shot. It’s as simple as that.


For him to really be considered a good player, he has to be able to one of the guys who can hit that jump shot.

He's not Ben Simmons out there, creativity wise.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#63 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:47 am

rajajackal wrote:
Besart19 wrote:What I hope: Harden

What i expect: J.Rose

What I fear: Fields



hahaha i actually understand the fields comparison. i think we've already jumped that floor. i never got the harden comp though. RJ's built like a tank, and harden's more of a soft-bodied kind of skills guy

i think if you look at paul pierce's rookie tape, you can see a lot of RJ barrett



I agree that Pierce is the best comp to aspire to. Does a lot of things, but develops into a clutch guy without necessarily leading the team in scoring each night
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#64 » by br7knicks » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:51 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:17/6/4

46/35/75


only real difference i had was the %s

i had

42/33/75

i can also see his apg go up closer to 6 if randle is moved, and he and toppin are given 32+ MPG. hell, if quickley finds himself playing a lot of minutes (i predict he will), they'll be even closer to 6.


I would really like to see that FT% get up to 75+ because it'll be good sign that his touch and mechanics are really improving. I have no doubt that RJ is busting his ass this offseason so I'm also looking forward (no pun intended) to see what he brings to the table this year. And, yeah, I think he's a 3 but whatever.


Rj is a hard nosed, good work ethic kid. He gets that FT% above 75, he'll be dangerous.

I also see him as a 3. This year will tell us a bunch about him, then next year should give us a good idea of what we're getting into as Knicks fans
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#65 » by dc » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:00 am

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Fat Kat wrote:Surround the kid with players that can hit a jump shot. It’s as simple as that.


For him to really be considered a good player, he has to be able to one of the guys who can hit that jump shot.

He's not Ben Simmons out there, creativity wise.


Yeah, the way people are talking about how he needs to be surrounded by guys who can shoot is pretty much how Orlando fans were talking about Elfrid Payton 5 years ago. He needs to be that guy who can score the ball somewhat efficiently on his own accord.

And with guys like Mitch, Knox, Frank, MKG, Payton, Randle and DSJ on the roster, the Knicks haven't exactly surrounded him with shooters. So looks like he'll be on his own again this year.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#66 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:51 am

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Fat Kat wrote:Surround the kid with players that can hit a jump shot. It’s as simple as that.


For him to really be considered a good player, he has to be able to one of the guys who can hit that jump shot.

He's not Ben Simmons out there, creativity wise.


Yeah, the way people are talking about how he needs to be surrounded by guys who can shoot is pretty much how Orlando fans were talking about Elfrid Payton 5 years ago. He needs to be that guy who can score the ball somewhat efficiently on his own accord.

And with guys like Mitch, Knox, Frank, MKG, Payton, Randle and DSJ on the roster, the Knicks haven't exactly surrounded him with shooters. So looks like he'll be on his own again this year.


Rivers and Burks are decent, Quickly will be in the mix. Spellman maybe, though not often.

Again, it doesn't have to 4 out and RJ.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#67 » by aq_ua » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:58 am

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For him to really be considered a good player, he has to be able to one of the guys who can hit that jump shot.

He's not Ben Simmons out there, creativity wise.


Yeah, the way people are talking about how he needs to be surrounded by guys who can shoot is pretty much how Orlando fans were talking about Elfrid Payton 5 years ago. He needs to be that guy who can score the ball somewhat efficiently on his own accord.

And with guys like Mitch, Knox, Frank, MKG, Payton, Randle and DSJ on the roster, the Knicks haven't exactly surrounded him with shooters. So looks like he'll be on his own again this year.


Rivers and Burks are decent, Quickly will be in the mix. Spellman maybe, though not often.

Again, it doesn't have to 4 out and RJ.

I think simply playing a more fast paced offense will help RJ. There's no reason he can't be better than Caris LeVert, and a big part of LeVert's production is simply pace and opportunities with the ball in his hand. Getting his three point percentage a couple points higher would make a ton of difference as well.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#68 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:14 am

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Yeah, the way people are talking about how he needs to be surrounded by guys who can shoot is pretty much how Orlando fans were talking about Elfrid Payton 5 years ago. He needs to be that guy who can score the ball somewhat efficiently on his own accord.

And with guys like Mitch, Knox, Frank, MKG, Payton, Randle and DSJ on the roster, the Knicks haven't exactly surrounded him with shooters. So looks like he'll be on his own again this year.


Rivers and Burks are decent, Quickly will be in the mix. Spellman maybe, though not often.

Again, it doesn't have to 4 out and RJ.

I think simply playing a more fast paced offense will help RJ. There's no reason he can't be better than Caris LeVert, and a big part of LeVert's production is simply pace and opportunities with the ball in his hand. Getting his three point percentage a couple points higher would make a ton of difference as well.


Agreed. I think Thibs will maximize all the guys and RJ has real talent to use.
Just like it was obvious Miller organized the offense better than Fizzle, I think we at least see the same proportional uptick from Miller to Thibs
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#69 » by Fat Kat » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:35 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:Surround the kid with players that can hit a jump shot. It’s as simple as that.


For him to really be considered a good player, he has to be able to one of the guys who can hit that jump shot.

He's not Ben Simmons out there, creativity wise.


Agreed. I look at RJ as a Dwyane Wade archetype. He’ll be a better shooter than Wade, and his strength is getting to the bucket. He’s a good enough passer to hurt cheating defenses provided that guys can knock down the shots. The shots go down, the lanes get wider. And yes, his improved shooting will also help.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#70 » by blanko » Tue Dec 1, 2020 5:39 am

I see rj as butler and thats good.

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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#71 » by BugginOut » Wed Dec 2, 2020 3:54 am


Look at when Stef Bondy asks him about the all rookie team snub at 2:05. RJ looks pissed as hell. He is definitely looking to take some heads this years.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#72 » by Dantares » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:13 pm



Nice. I like the footwork in the post and he seems to be smoother with his mid range game. I'm glad Thibs is featuring him in post up situations. never understood why we didn't post him up last year when he had such a size advantage over's opposing 2's.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#73 » by Jimmit79 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:54 pm

I don't have much expectations from RJ because I know he's not the main piece until Knicks find that piece it doesn't matter whose on team because they will not be signed back.

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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#74 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:13 pm

Just be consistent from half to half, game to game, man. Too streaky right now, man.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#75 » by BugginOut » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:29 pm

I'm not going to be down on RJ cause he played poorly in his first half back after 9 months. The second half adjustment where he went 7/10 was really encouraging. All players have bad games, but the great ones can overcome that and finish the game strong.

My brothers a Celtic fan (*i know) so I watched them play a lot in the bubble. Jayson Tatum will consistently start games shooting 2-10, but after the half will come our blazing finishing with like 9-18.

As long as RJ is consistent this year and improves his FT shooting the rest of his game will come.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#76 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Feb 1, 2021 5:00 am

In his last 10 games he's averaging 20.2ppg, 5.2rpg, 3.1apg, 51% from the field, 45% from three, 83.3% from the line. I was expecting 19-22ppg this year, he's almost exactly where I expected him to be and he's trending up, should be in the 20ppg range before the end of the season.

His 2nd year numbers are perfectly in line with all-star wings, and if continues to play like he has for the last 10, he will be beyond the 2nd years a lot of the players that people covet. Also, these numbers are in a predominantly halfcourt based system that is the slowest pace in the league, he's going to be a excellent scorer in the future because of how we're playing now. He's also one of the best two way players in the league in his age group, he really could be like Jimmy Butler in the future but with more 3 point volume.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#77 » by BugginOut » Mon Feb 1, 2021 5:13 am

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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#78 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:12 am

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So much pushback in this thread.

His numbers over the last 40 games are the numbers within the range I expected, the 3 point shooting is even better than I could have imagined.
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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#79 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:38 am

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So much pushback in this thread.

His numbers over the last 40 games are the numbers within the range I expected, the 3 point shooting is even better than I could have imagined.

My prediction is looking almost spot on
18.8 PPG 6.2 RPG 3.3 APG

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Re: What are your expectations for RJ's second season? 

Post#80 » by BugginOut » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:11 am

A lot of y’all were right in the mark with 17/6/3 averages. I guess RJ is meeting expectations. I’d say he probably is exceeding expectations due to his 3PT shooting, FT shooting and defense.

Going from the lowest eFG% in the league last season to a clear number 2 on a playoff team has been a huge turnaround.

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