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Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option

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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#61 » by denterprise » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:41 pm

Yes, picking up his option is the smart thing to do. He is our most valuable asset for the next year or two. He is a great pick up for teams looking to clear cap space this year or next.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#62 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:44 pm

denterprise wrote:Yes, picking up his option is the smart thing to do. He is our most valuable asset for the next year or two. He is a great pick up for teams looking to clear cap space this year or next.
I don't know if cap space is the thing it was. It has to turn into a player and the big guns aren't really moving like that.

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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#63 » by F N 11 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:45 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:No way are declining his option

Opportunity for real free agents, could care less about Randle next year at 20 M.
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Re: Julius Randle: Retain him for 4 million 

Post#64 » by F N 11 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:47 pm

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Rewatch our last game. He was grining out there with the kids.

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Re: Julius Randle: Retain him for 4 million 

Post#65 » by cgf » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:57 pm

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You say screw that then propose a scenario that includes it? :lol:


Yes, you were thinking too small :wink:


This thread is about Randle so that is who my comment addressed.

Not sure why a Knicks fan would want Hield and his 4 year $80mil plus contract when Burks is giving better production on better %s for a 1/4th the cost and is off the books this summer...it would have to be an unprotected or very lightly protected 1st but is Sac really going to do that?

It's more reasonable to think a contender would have a use for an improved Randle and give up their late 1st rounder to get him in hopes it pushes them over the top. It's not a prayer that Sac is stupid enough to give up a pick just to trade Hield.

But yea... we can wish for a 1st rounder in every transaction.... even when Rose takes a dump he'll get a pick out of it! :lol:


TBH I was mostly just joking about it initially, but I brought it up here because it would be an extension of selling Randle during this season...move Julius for an asset + worthless expiring, then flip that worthless expiring for another asset + contract that a team wants to ditch, if not make it a 3-way.

Alec Burks is filling that role for now, but will hopefully be Morris'd by the deadline...and if not would cost at least half of Hield to retain; which is why I say that he'll hopefully be Morris'd. And a late lotto pick for eating Hield's deal has come up on the trade board with other teams; so why not us after we've cashed in on Burks & Randle?...should they continue playing well enough to sell.

I'd rather have Hield + late FRP + late lotto FRP than Burks at 10+ a year, not Hield's deal on it's own vs Burks on his present contract.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#66 » by iLLmatic860 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:16 pm

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iLLmatic860 wrote:No way are declining his option

Opportunity for real free agents, could care less about Randle next year at 20 M.

What "real free agents" are available this summer?
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#67 » by F N 11 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:51 pm

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iLLmatic860 wrote:No way are declining his option

Opportunity for real free agents, could care less about Randle next year at 20 M.

What "real free agents" are available this summer?

I ain’t gon front, I forgot Giannis resigned. Kawhi could be a FA too.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#68 » by prophet_of_rage » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:08 am

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F N 11 wrote:Opportunity for real free agents, could care less about Randle next year at 20 M.

What "real free agents" are available this summer?

I ain’t gon front, I forgot Giannis resigned. Kawhi could be a FA too.
Kawhi will go into free agency to get more money from the Clips.

The market is Lowry, Derozan Drummond, Adams, Oladipo now.

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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#69 » by nyk2017 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:46 am

The way RJ has been shooting the past 2-3 games, Randle maybe the best we got.
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Re: Julius Randle: Retain him for 4 million 

Post#70 » by br7knicks » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:00 am

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I wanted to trade him for Rozier :-D

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Or Batum and a top 5 protected 1st rounder


But yes, he's showing that he has the value he always had. His role last year was the mess.


yeah. he's showing us a different kind of randle. all of last season, AND 2 weeks ago, it made too much sense to trade him for any expiring, especially if it came back with a pick.


randle is making a good case to retain him, though. 2 games doesn't make up for an entire season. but if he can be consistent, knicks would be dumb not to bring him back, as, i believe, they'd still have room to acquire a star FA
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Re: Julius Randle: Retain him for 4 million 

Post#71 » by br7knicks » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:06 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:It will be interesting to see if he keeps this up.
This version of Randle is def much better then last years version. But is even this version someone that you can build a good team around as a main piece and contend in the long run, especially with the rest of our core?

We will see how the rest of the season goes. Seems like he will be here for this season and probably next though. Personally, still doubt he is a long term piece to the puzzle and would sell high if i could


if THIS randle can stick around, he'd be a great #3 option. bring in a Jimmy Butler type, and you have a team that can compete in the East.

obviously there are greater needs than others - a high level PG would be best. but i'd want to make sure that whoever is coming in, they buy into the team, as randle apparently has done so far this season - this is NOT what he showed us last year.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#72 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:17 am

Pick up his option, he's playing well right now. Most people hated Randle because he never even looked to pass, now he's doing it and hopefully he'll continue to do it on a consistent basis. I have no problem with Randle if he's moving the ball, he gives us an asset if the front office wants to start Obi otherwise. Hate it or love it, but he's the best Knick until RJ fully emerges.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#73 » by jstudabaka » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:17 am

Idk why people act like Randle couldn't be a part of the team's plans moving forward. He just turned 26 for God's sake.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#74 » by Moose » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:21 am

Trade him for pick(s).
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#75 » by nyk2017 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:31 am

Forget about RJ. We should build around Randle.
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#76 » by YungKnicks » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:28 am

Now Knick fans going to talk about giving Randle an extension next... SMH
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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#77 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:32 am

YungKnicks wrote:Now Knick fans going to talk about giving Randle an extension next... SMH

Lol you rather have Josh Jackson. Go have a seat
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Re: Julius Randle: Retain him for 4 million 

Post#78 » by FutureKnicksGM » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:25 am

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Yeah only stupid people base their preferences off a year of terrible play as opposed to 3 games. :lol:

No. Last year Randle (despite being this boards scapegoat) was a much better player than the corpse of Batum, who was also on an atrocious deal. You don't trade a better player, on a better contract for worse player, on a worse contract, without being compensated. Simple as that. Stupid people are just stupid I guess.


Wrong again. Keep it moving stupid.

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Re: Julius Randle: Should we pick up his 2021-2 Team option 

Post#79 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:35 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
YungKnicks wrote:Now Knick fans going to talk about giving Randle an extension next... SMH

Lol you rather have Josh Jackson. Go have a seat


Lol serve all the crow you want my guy. Your boy has been tearing it up more than even an optimist like myself would have imagined. Thibs figured Randle out and he's looking like a stud and these blood thirsty posters are looking to trade him first chance they get... smh
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Re: Julius Randle: Retain him for 4 million 

Post#80 » by FutureKnicksGM » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:45 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:It will be interesting to see if he keeps this up.
This version of Randle is def much better then last years version. But is even this version someone that you can build a good team around as a main piece and contend in the long run, especially with the rest of our core?

We will see how the rest of the season goes. Seems like he will be here for this season and probably next though. Personally, still doubt he is a long term piece to the puzzle and would sell high if i could


if THIS randle can stick around, he'd be a great #3 option. bring in a Jimmy Butler type, and you have a team that can compete in the East.

obviously there are greater needs than others - a high level PG would be best. but i'd want to make sure that whoever is coming in, they buy into the team, as randle apparently has done so far this season - this is NOT what he showed us last year.


I believe we now have some semblance of an offensive system under Thibs vs what we had under Fiz. Just look at the man movement off the ball now vs before when it was non-existent under Fiz. Plus we seem to have more shooting on the floor compared to last year. All combined give Randle more options versus last year where he was told to go one on one with no floor spacing and a locked in defense due to a stationary offense. Last year he was not put in a position to suceed, but the skillset was there. Now he is generating a double on almost every play and to his credit is making the right decision.

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