OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[HarthorneWingo]

https://www.statista.com/chart/25589/covid-19-infections-vaccinated-unvaccinated/

In July 2021, around 125 breakthrough infections happened per 100,000 fully vaccinated Wisconsinites, compared with around 369 cases per 100,000 inhabitants of the state who had not been fully vaccinated. At a vaccination rate of around 50 percent in the state in July, this means that around 3 in 4 new cases occurred in unvaccinated people. That would have made the COVID-19 vaccines in the state 66 percent effective in preventing infection in real world conditions opposite unvaccinated people, as for every three unvaccinated Wisconsinites who were infected with COVID-19, two vaccinated people were spared an infection, assuming that both groups had the same exposure to the virus on average.

When it comes to hospitalizations and deaths, the differences in outcomes for vaccinated and unvaccinated people were even starker. Around four in five hospitalizations for COVID-19 occurred in unvaccinated people in Wisconsin, translating to a vaccine effectiveness of 73 percent in preventing hospitalizations. For preventing death, vaccines proved 91 percent effective, as only one in twelve Wisconsinites who succumbed to COVID-19 was vaccinated.

Something to keep an eye on as more data comes in.

There are so many video on YouTube and Twitter showing people who condemned and refused the vaccine and have now contracted the Delta variant who are suffering incredibly, or on their deathbed, and they are admitting their mistakes in not getting vaxxed and warning others to make sure to get their vaccination shots.

[HarthorneWingo]

This new finding could result in another method of getting the vaccine into men (and women).

@ HuffPost

There's a significant supply of coronavirus antibodies in vaccinated women's breast milk, new research suggests.

[Clyde_Style]

This new finding could result in another method of getting the vaccine into men (and women).

@ HuffPost

There's a significant supply of coronavirus antibodies in vaccinated women's breast milk, new research suggests.

I know you’ll be camping out overnight to get into those clinical trials

[movingon]

https://www.statista.com/chart/25589/covid-19-infections-vaccinated-unvaccinated/

In July 2021, around 125 breakthrough infections happened per 100,000 fully vaccinated Wisconsinites, compared with around 369 cases per 100,000 inhabitants of the state who had not been fully vaccinated. At a vaccination rate of around 50 percent in the state in July, this means that around 3 in 4 new cases occurred in unvaccinated people. That would have made the COVID-19 vaccines in the state 66 percent effective in preventing infection in real world conditions opposite unvaccinated people, as for every three unvaccinated Wisconsinites who were infected with COVID-19, two vaccinated people were spared an infection, assuming that both groups had the same exposure to the virus on average.

When it comes to hospitalizations and deaths, the differences in outcomes for vaccinated and unvaccinated people were even starker. Around four in five hospitalizations for COVID-19 occurred in unvaccinated people in Wisconsin, translating to a vaccine effectiveness of 73 percent in preventing hospitalizations. For preventing death, vaccines proved 91 percent effective, as only one in twelve Wisconsinites who succumbed to COVID-19 was vaccinated.

Something to keep an eye on as more data comes in.

I think the 66% derived here is a lower limit for the following reason. The vaccinated population still has some bias towards those that are more susceptible to infection, e.g., older folks, comorbidies, etc.
If instead you randomly selected a portion of the population for vaccination, the vaccine effectiveness derived in the same way should be a bit higher.
In other words, if you got vaccinated you would reduce your risk of infection by more than a factor of 3 (100% / (100% - 66%)). I guess this bias effect will be even more important for hospitalization and death.

[Clyde_Style]

https://www.statista.com/chart/25589/covid-19-infections-vaccinated-unvaccinated/

In July 2021, around 125 breakthrough infections happened per 100,000 fully vaccinated Wisconsinites, compared with around 369 cases per 100,000 inhabitants of the state who had not been fully vaccinated. At a vaccination rate of around 50 percent in the state in July, this means that around 3 in 4 new cases occurred in unvaccinated people. That would have made the COVID-19 vaccines in the state 66 percent effective in preventing infection in real world conditions opposite unvaccinated people, as for every three unvaccinated Wisconsinites who were infected with COVID-19, two vaccinated people were spared an infection, assuming that both groups had the same exposure to the virus on average.

When it comes to hospitalizations and deaths, the differences in outcomes for vaccinated and unvaccinated people were even starker. Around four in five hospitalizations for COVID-19 occurred in unvaccinated people in Wisconsin, translating to a vaccine effectiveness of 73 percent in preventing hospitalizations. For preventing death, vaccines proved 91 percent effective, as only one in twelve Wisconsinites who succumbed to COVID-19 was vaccinated.

Something to keep an eye on as more data comes in.

I think the 66% derived here is a lower limit for the following reason. The vaccinated population still has some bias towards those that are more susceptible to infection, e.g., older folks, comorbidies, etc.
If instead you randomly selected a portion of the population for vaccination, the vaccine effectiveness derived in the same way should be a bit higher.
In other words, if you got vaccinated you would reduce your risk of infection by more than a factor of 3 (100% / (100% - 66%)). I guess this bias effect will be even more important for hospitalization and death.

The Trumpy Anti-Vaxxers were all about Herd Immunity for quite a long time. Those same people are now Thinning the Herd.

[Fat Kat]

https://www.statista.com/chart/25589/covid-19-infections-vaccinated-unvaccinated/

In July 2021, around 125 breakthrough infections happened per 100,000 fully vaccinated Wisconsinites, compared with around 369 cases per 100,000 inhabitants of the state who had not been fully vaccinated. At a vaccination rate of around 50 percent in the state in July, this means that around 3 in 4 new cases occurred in unvaccinated people. That would have made the COVID-19 vaccines in the state 66 percent effective in preventing infection in real world conditions opposite unvaccinated people, as for every three unvaccinated Wisconsinites who were infected with COVID-19, two vaccinated people were spared an infection, assuming that both groups had the same exposure to the virus on average.

When it comes to hospitalizations and deaths, the differences in outcomes for vaccinated and unvaccinated people were even starker. Around four in five hospitalizations for COVID-19 occurred in unvaccinated people in Wisconsin, translating to a vaccine effectiveness of 73 percent in preventing hospitalizations. For preventing death, vaccines proved 91 percent effective, as only one in twelve Wisconsinites who succumbed to COVID-19 was vaccinated.

Something to keep an eye on as more data comes in.

There are so many video on YouTube and Twitter showing people who condemned and refused the vaccine and have now contracted the Delta variant who are suffering incredibly, or on their deathbed, and they are admitting their mistakes in not getting vaxxed and warning others to make sure to get their vaccination shots.

Watch on YouTube

[guardplay320]

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVIDAteMyFace/

Really brutal subreddit of people finding out the hard way that the virus isn't concerned with politics, it simply needs a place to copy itself.

I just do not get why people need to talk tough towards a virus, it makes no sense to me, like who is all that posturing for?

Exactly. It's a **** virus.

And it just ripped through my office. Vaccinated and non. So far no hospitalizations. I was very lucky not to get it and am laying low/remote until it's gone. Don't want my kids to get it.

I mean, it's a real bummer and pain in the ass that Delta went all honey badger just when we thought Covid was closing down but the virus just doesn't care about any of that.

It started taking another trip through our office also.

[Jalen Bluntson]

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVIDAteMyFace/

Really brutal subreddit of people finding out the hard way that the virus isn't concerned with politics, it simply needs a place to copy itself.

I just do not get why people need to talk tough towards a virus, it makes no sense to me, like who is all that posturing for?

Exactly. It's a **** virus.

And it just ripped through my office. Vaccinated and non. So far no hospitalizations. I was very lucky not to get it and am laying low/remote until it's gone. Don't want my kids to get it.

I mean, it's a real bummer and pain in the ass that Delta went all honey badger just when we thought Covid was closing down but the virus just doesn't care about any of that.

It started taking another trip through our office also.

Just made its way through my daughter's office. She got the Delta variant. It was mild for her. She didn't get vaccinated. Was sick for about 4 days. Taste and smell came back. She seems fine. I don't think I have it but...I am in the middle of getting vaccinated. Second shot Sept 1st. I haven't hung out with anyone in 9 days since exposure. No symptoms. Lysol is my best friend. Hopefully I don't get it. My old lady doesn't seem to have it either. We are both high risk so... I'll kill my daughter if she brought this home!

[JXL]

This new finding could result in another method of getting the vaccine into men (and women).

@ HuffPost

There's a significant supply of coronavirus antibodies in vaccinated women's breast milk, new research suggests.

Is it Cambodian?



FR tho, that's interesting.

[stuporman]

Breast milk is how many antibodies get delivered from the mother to child so I'm not sure how this would be a surprise to anyone in the medical profession around pediatrics.

[Meat]

Exactly. It's a **** virus.

And it just ripped through my office. Vaccinated and non. So far no hospitalizations. I was very lucky not to get it and am laying low/remote until it's gone. Don't want my kids to get it.

I mean, it's a real bummer and pain in the ass that Delta went all honey badger just when we thought Covid was closing down but the virus just doesn't care about any of that.

It started taking another trip through our office also.

Just made its way through my daughter's office. She got the Delta variant. It was mild for her. She didn't get vaccinated. Was sick for about 4 days. Taste and smell came back. She seems fine. I don't think I have it but...I am in the middle of getting vaccinated. Second shot Sept 1st. I haven't hung out with anyone in 9 days since exposure. No symptoms. Lysol is my best friend. Hopefully I don't get it. My old lady doesn't seem to have it either. We are both high risk so... I'll kill my daughter if she brought this home!

you lobbing softballs?

[HarthorneWingo]

Ivermectin is a de-worming medication used for livestock. They want these inmates to die.

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[HarthorneWingo]

Breast milk is how many antibodies get delivered from the mother to child so I'm not sure how this would be a surprise to anyone in the medical profession around pediatrics.

But if you're an adult male, then hopefully you get a bronsky as well.

[Spot31]

Will MSG only allow vaccinated fans for the upcoming season?

[Clyde_Style]

I'm trying to save the easily influenced from your stupidity. Keep living in your bubbles in fear that humanity is ending. We will continue to sit here and endless laugh at all of you.

Not hard to recall you gloating like a jackal with all kinds of war dance histrionics the week before the election about how Trump was going to wipe the floor with Biden and how much you were going to enjoy rubbing it in our faces.

So, yeah, keep laughing about facts that you don’t want to be true. It didn’t make you correct then and it doesn’t now

[spree8]

We can post all our health-related data and concerns here, assuming this is okay with the mods.

Wingo ain't going on no airplanes or staying in any hotel/motel. No movie theaters or outdoor concerts either. And I'm masked up again when I go indoor shopping at the supermarket. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

I'll go first. This azzhat (Mr. "Be Hard To Kill") decides to walk into a store without a mask even though this business has a mask rule.

Watch on YouTube

Your hysteria is getting out of control buddy. Reel it in and step off your ledge. The only thing you need to fear is the delusion you have built in your own head.

This is what happens when fake news puts out statistics like if you are vaccinated you have a 99.999% chance of survival but those unvaccinated are 25% more likely to die. No one bothers to do that math.

I don’t know if you’re responding so aggressively in order to get the thread shut down, because any response to that video is basically appropriate considering the protagonist is violating all kinds of laws. You walk into a store with a mask policy and behave like that is indefensible. No store owner should have to put up with that.

As far as statistics are concerned, as of a few weeks ago the data for the U.S. and around the world was 99% of covid related hospitalizations were unvaccinated people. That’s where the 99% number comes from. You’re mistakenly conflating that with survival rates which is a whole other thing. Once you’re sick enough to be hospitalized the survival rate for anyone, vaccinated or unvaccinated, is not going to reach 99%.

Further, vaccinated people usually have less severe symptions and they DO have a higher rate of survival once they get ill, though the amount of vaccinated people getting ill from covid is still marginal statisically.

That’s math

What about people who’ve had the virus already? I’ve read reports about natural immunity and even seen virologists publicly say that people who’ve had the virus should absolutely not get the vaccine. However, I’ve seen studies show that people with natural immunity do even better with the vaccine.

Due to all the reported deaths from the vaccine (who knows the actual number), I think it’s too risky at this point, especially since having the virus already. I know plenty of people with the vaccine, and even some who’ve had the virus too, and they’re fine, but still, I dunno about running the risk… who knows what can happen long-term (even though they say if issues do occur, it’ll be soon after taking it).

[movingon]

Due to all the reported deaths from the vaccine (who knows the actual number), I think it’s too risky at this point, especially since having the virus already.

The probability of dying from an mRNA vaccine is absurdly small.
The only known potentially fatal side effect is heart inflammation.
Although it's most common in young men, it's not fatal for young people.
The chance of getting this side effect is about 1 in 1 million.
The chance of dying is about 3 in 100 million, and deaths seem to occur in old people or people with pre-existing health conditions.
I'll take those chances any day.

Source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57781637

[HarthorneWingo]

Your hysteria is getting out of control buddy. Reel it in and step off your ledge. The only thing you need to fear is the delusion you have built in your own head.

This is what happens when fake news puts out statistics like if you are vaccinated you have a 99.999% chance of survival but those unvaccinated are 25% more likely to die. No one bothers to do that math.

I don’t know if you’re responding so aggressively in order to get the thread shut down, because any response to that video is basically appropriate considering the protagonist is violating all kinds of laws. You walk into a store with a mask policy and behave like that is indefensible. No store owner should have to put up with that.

As far as statistics are concerned, as of a few weeks ago the data for the U.S. and around the world was 99% of covid related hospitalizations were unvaccinated people. That’s where the 99% number comes from. You’re mistakenly conflating that with survival rates which is a whole other thing. Once you’re sick enough to be hospitalized the survival rate for anyone, vaccinated or unvaccinated, is not going to reach 99%.

Further, vaccinated people usually have less severe symptions and they DO have a higher rate of survival once they get ill, though the amount of vaccinated people getting ill from covid is still marginal statisically.

That’s math

What about people who’ve had the virus already? I’ve read reports about natural immunity and even seen virologists publicly say that people who’ve had the virus should absolutely not get the vaccine. However, I’ve seen studies show that people with natural immunity do even better with the vaccine.

Due to all the reported deaths from the vaccine (who knows the actual number), I think it’s too risky at this point, especially since having the virus already. I know plenty of people with the vaccine, and even some who’ve had the virus too, and they’re fine, but still, I dunno about running the risk… who knows what can happen long-term (even though they say if issues do occur, it’ll be soon after taking it).

"All the reported deaths from the vaccine"? Huh?

Please post links to the sources of that information.

[HarthorneWingo]

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[Thepaintismine]

A whole lot of people seem to like what Busta gots to say, Ya'll.

Read on Twitter

He’s actually getting killed on Twitter. Nobody is taking him seriously, thankfully.


Remember to wear your masks and don’t be a idiot.

Come on Yo, you come back with 4 tweets?
Black people significantly lag behind all races on Covid vaccination rates.


https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

Why the disparity? If there is a segment of da US population that doesn't trust the US govt, it B the black population (and with good reason.) Some must remember the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (on black people.) CDC was behind that atrocity.

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