What's the Knicks' weakest position?

[thebuzzardman]

What would the polls look like if RJ was switched to SF and Fournier was switched to SG

Wouldn't matter because the only SF we have is Kevin Knox and he's more of a stretch 4. Why is Burks listed at SF? Oh...because we don't have one.

Burks is going to sub in first, over IQ. He'll sub in for either RJ or Fournier, but that leaves one player who is mostly tall enough to guard most SF's.

Yes, there will be an issue when/if IQ subs in but Burks is still out there. I bet there won't be a lot of minutes of that duo, or I guess I should hope there isn't, so the Knicks don't suffer from all this smallness.

Oh well. Was hoping IQ could get some minutes, but if Thibs is smart, he'll stagger the substitutions around RJ/Fournier/Burks that IQ doesn't see the floor that much. Because height.

[Synciere]

This is EASILY the SF position.

I get that you all want to play the small ball game and make all shooting guards small forwards, but the best small forwards in the game are KD, Luka, Kawhi, PG, Lebron, Tatum etc... we don't have a single player who possesses their size and overall skill. Those guys aren't shooting guards masquerading as small forwards, which is exactly what Fournier and RJ would be. They would and have cooked us every time we play them. We need a true playmaker with size at that SF to become a complete team, even without a superstar. A guy like Middleton would take us far and honestly make us contenders.

Kris Middleton: 6-7, 222lb (201cm, 100kg)
Evan Fournier: 6-7, 205lb (201cm, 92kg)

So, it's 10 pounds that's holding the Knicks back at SF?

I mean, sure, the Knicks could use a talent upgrade over Fournier or RJ to get to another level, but their wing size is fine, if Kris Middleton is the example. Or, Middleton is a bad example and the Knicks could use a player who is 2 inches taller.

You're looking at their size as the main impediment while I'm looking at their size AND skill.

[thebuzzardman]

This is EASILY the SF position.

I get that you all want to play the small ball game and make all shooting guards small forwards, but the best small forwards in the game are KD, Luka, Kawhi, PG, Lebron, Tatum etc... we don't have a single player who possesses their size and overall skill. Those guys aren't shooting guards masquerading as small forwards, which is exactly what Fournier and RJ would be. They would and have cooked us every time we play them. We need a true playmaker with size at that SF to become a complete team, even without a superstar. A guy like Middleton would take us far and honestly make us contenders.

Kris Middleton: 6-7, 222lb (201cm, 100kg)
Evan Fournier: 6-7, 205lb (201cm, 92kg)

So, it's 10 pounds that's holding the Knicks back at SF?

I mean, sure, the Knicks could use a talent upgrade over Fournier or RJ to get to another level, but their wing size is fine, if Kris Middleton is the example. Or, Middleton is a bad example and the Knicks could use a player who is 2 inches taller.

You're looking at their size as the main impediment while I'm looking at their size AND skill.

Fournier has decent skill. RJ will need to develop. Maybe he will and maybe he won't. It'll be the 2nd year we are talking about RJ needing to do this, that the team have some "internal development". So far he has. Who knows if his ceiling will be adequate or how long it takes.

I'm not that concerned. Knicks are better than last year, it's not like they are playing a 3 guard lineup where every guard is 6'2" and also, this isn't the team that management thinks is going to contend and neither do I. That player who'll take them to that level isn't on the team yet. Hopefully they'll get that player and in such a way the team isn't gutted, etc.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Kris Middleton: 6-7, 222lb (201cm, 100kg)
Evan Fournier: 6-7, 205lb (201cm, 92kg)

So, it's 10 pounds that's holding the Knicks back at SF?

I mean, sure, the Knicks could use a talent upgrade over Fournier or RJ to get to another level, but their wing size is fine, if Kris Middleton is the example. Or, Middleton is a bad example and the Knicks could use a player who is 2 inches taller.

You're looking at their size as the main impediment while I'm looking at their size AND skill.

Fournier has decent skill. RJ will need to develop. Maybe he will and maybe he won't. It'll be the 2nd year we are talking about RJ needing to do this, that the team have some "internal development". So far he has. Who knows if his ceiling will be adequate or how long it takes.

I'm not that concerned. Knicks are better than last year, it's not like they are playing a 3 guard lineup where every guard is 6'2" and also, this isn't the team that management thinks is going to contend and neither do I. That player who'll take them to that level isn't on the team yet. Hopefully they'll get that player and in such a way the team isn't gutted, etc.

Yeah...agreed. in the end most of these guys might not even be here.

[The Lamma]

So we should have signed Oubre?

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Since 6'6" and 6'7" is the size of midgets now, apparently yes.

Exactly why they call it small forward

[spree2kawhi]

We have no superstars at any position so...that's our weakness. It takes top of the league talent to win a title. Usually more than one.

Treadmill

[WargamesX]

We have no superstars at any position so...that's our weakness. It takes top of the league talent to win a title. Usually more than one.

Treadmill

True, but the team is so young you want to see if it can grow internally. Plus the contract’s outside of Randle’s isn’t long.

[DOT]

I don't think this is the right question

Because outside of Randle who hopefully stays great, we're just solid all around, no major weaknesses

The issue is, we don't really have a major strength either. I'd say we definitely need an upgrade at PG, just because while Kemba and Rose are both good, they're both on the back end of their careers, and neither can be relied on to play major minutes for a full season at this point. I like McBride and Quick, but neither are "true" PGs, and I doubt either of them could be a long term starter (though I think McBride has a better chance, but just because his offensive game is more of a role player, and it'll be easier for him to get consistent enough to start, but Quick has more offensive upside)

I think Fournier/RJ are solid for wings, and I'm a big believer in RJ's potential, so I don't think we really need a major upgrade at wing, and with center, it's just a question of, we just have a lot of questions about what we're gonna do with Mitch, and despite what some believe, Noel is not a DPOY caliber player, we'd be better with him as a backup

So, list of needs for me would be, we need a star caliber PG, a long term solution at C, then we have to see how our bench performs, if last year was a fluke or if they can be consistent.