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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#61 » by Worst_to_First » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:56 pm

Spurs will be on a second night of a back to back after a tough loss to the Suns. No excuses for losing this one.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#62 » by nykfan42 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 3:12 pm

WajaBawl wrote:I know there's a lot of negativity going around on this board right now, so I just wanted to share this clip of Kemba being a true pro about being out of the rotation and still rooting for his teammates. Specifically singles out the young guys on the team.

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Humbling. Same here, makes me like him more. Could be arrogant and douchy like Randle but he's being the consummate professional instead.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#63 » by Reign23 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 3:24 pm

DaGawd wrote:RJ bout to score 17 on 6/25 shooting

would be like christmas for you, huh?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#64 » by robillionaire » Tue Dec 7, 2021 3:25 pm

“I could be pissed” aka I am pissed but I’m going to put on a smiling facade about it
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#65 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Dec 7, 2021 3:52 pm

It’s going to look bad when thibs benches our #3pick!!!!!!!

But it’s definitely happening probably tonight even!!!!!!!!!!

Buckle up folks the road is about to get really bumpy!!!!!!
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#66 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:08 pm

Who even cares?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#67 » by BKlutch » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:27 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Who even cares?

I saw a video where Thibs acknowledged that RJ was sick and coudn't practice, so he said he wasn't calling him out specifically. i'm not sure what's going on, but in the past week, this board has devolved into full panic mode and I'm thinking the Knicks coaching staff is beginning to catch it from us, too.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#68 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:35 pm

I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#69 » by BKlutch » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:46 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:

I'd also love to see this. I'm not sure whether the problem is Mitch is fat or if he still just hasn't recovered fully, but either way, he's not the Mitch we knew and loved. Obi is a joy to watch and I'd love to see how this works.
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Post#70 » by DaGawd » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:53 pm

Reign23 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:RJ bout to score 17 on 6/25 shooting

would be like christmas for you, huh?

More like watching paint dry.. kid is so boring to watch and hurts my favorite team with his wack ass play
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#71 » by JXL » Tue Dec 7, 2021 4:54 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:


If anything like that, Knicks twitter would cream.

I see it being Fournier to the bench for IQ. Gives him interchangeable lineups to use, including moving Grimes/Deuce to the rotation.

PG: IQ
SG: Burks
SF: Barrett
PF: Randle
C: Robinson

Bench

PG: Rose
SG: Grimes/IQ
SF: Burks/Fournier
PF: Obi
C: Noel

I know Randle is the bull of the team, but cutting his minutes by like 5 minutes to give to Obi would do wonders. Same for Barrett if he's getting lost and not scoring well.
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Post#72 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:04 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:


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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#73 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:05 pm

JXL wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:


If anything like that, Knicks twitter would cream.

I see it being Fournier to the bench for IQ. Gives him interchangeable lineups to use, including moving Grimes/Deuce to the rotation.

PG: IQ
SG: Burks
SF: Barrett
PF: Randle
C: Robinson

Bench

PG: Rose
SG: Grimes/IQ
SF: Burks/Fournier
PF: Obi
C: Noel

I know Randle is the bull of the team, but cutting his minutes by like 5 minutes to give to Obi would do wonders. Same for Barrett if he's getting lost and not scoring well.


Would work if IQ was a decent PG or could get going north-south, but he isn't and can't that frequently.
Maybe next year, as he's better at both this year than last year.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#74 » by DOT » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:13 pm

I'm gonna keep saying it

Benching Kemba was the right move, but not for Burks

Rose should be starting, bench one of Burks/Fournier/RJ, and just manage his minutes to 24 or so a game.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#75 » by HerSports85 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:14 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:We really botched the Kemba benching but what’s new


Gotta start somewhere. What would you have done?


I definitely wouldn’t have been so quick to announce that he’s just out the rotation. A few rest days would have sufficed, while we are trying different rotations. But whatever I’ll continue to say that he was the scapegoat. The problem is vey much still here, matter of fact it’s more obvious now.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#76 » by HerSports85 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:17 pm

F N 11 wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:win the next 2 and it turns the season around.

I stopped feeling like this after the team showed me who they are. I don’t expect consistency.


Oh I don’t have no faith in them winning the next 2 at all, I’m just speaking numbers wise. The next 2 can get us back in the fight
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#77 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:18 pm

JXL wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:


If anything like that, Knicks twitter would cream.

I see it being Fournier to the bench for IQ. Gives him interchangeable lineups to use, including moving Grimes/Deuce to the rotation.

PG: IQ
SG: Burks
SF: Barrett
PF: Randle
C: Robinson

Bench

PG: Rose
SG: Grimes/IQ
SF: Burks/Fournier
PF: Obi
C: Noel

I know Randle is the bull of the team, but cutting his minutes by like 5 minutes to give to Obi would do wonders. Same for Barrett if he's getting lost and not scoring well.


I think money talks at this point... Fournier makes the 2nd most money on the team and he's only been here for a quarter of a season and his numbers have ticked up recently. I don't think Leon & co. would let him bench Fournier this early IMO. Maybe i'm wrong, but I just don't see a President who comes from an agency background allowing something that has such poor optics happen this early...

I think there's more writing on the wall that Mitch's days are numbered... No extension was offered, we've gotten lit up by stretch 5's the past 2 games, Noel performed admirably in Mitch's absence last year and one of the first people Thibs criticized when he came into the job was Mitch. I'm just kind of hoping it's Obi because he's earned it. but if I was a betting man i'd say the switch is Noel for Mitch truthfully.

It could be RJ too but I wouldn't recommend that :lol: If people thought the offense was too Randle-centric before... Wait until they put in Grimes for RJ lol
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#78 » by nykfan42 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:20 pm

Losing to the Spurs would be pretty embarrassing. This portion of the schedule has a handful of what should be winnable games. Except they're a bunch of clowns that forgot how to play together and with heart.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#79 » by evevale » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:27 pm

RJ Balkman
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs, Tue. 12/7/2021, 8:30 pm 

Post#80 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:44 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:I've got a weird feeling the lineup change is Obi for Mitch.. At the end of the Denver blowout, he gave Obi and Randle an extended run and it was garbage time but the Knicks got the lead down from like 30 to 14 and Obi ended up a +2. Maybe that was just coincidental and i'm reading too much into blowout stuff, but for some reason to me it was noteworthy that Thibs stuck with that grouping for as long as he did in that 4th quarter :dontknow:


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