2023 draft thread
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This team is not tanking and if it wasn’t for the stepien rule I think they would trade their own 2023 pick.
Last year was a perfect opportunity to tank and they did the opposite, and now brag about it in press releases.
Last year was a perfect opportunity to tank and they did the opposite, and now brag about it in press releases.
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Here we go the start of hyping up prospects for a year straight only for the Knicks to trade the pick at the draft 

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New York Knicks Future Draft Picks
2023 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]
2023 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) protected for selections 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2023 2nd round pick to New York (via Philadelphia to L.A. Clippers to Minnesota) [Detroit-Philadelphia, 6/21/2018; L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Minnesota, 11/19/2020; Minnesota-New York-Oklahoma City, 11/20/2020]
2024 second round draft pick from Utah or Cleveland (more favorable)
New York will receive the more favorable of Utah's 2024 2nd round pick and Cleveland's 2024 2nd round pick; Memphis will receive the more favorable of (i) Indiana's 2024 second round pick and (ii) the less favorable of the Utah pick and the Cleveland pick and Indiana will receive the least favorable of the three (via Utah's right to swap for Cleveland; via Milwaukee to Memphis) [Cleveland-Sacramento-Utah, 2/8/2018; New York-Utah, 11/22/2020; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021; Indiana-Milwaukee, 7/30/2021; Memphis-Milwaukee, 8/7/2021]
2024 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2024 2nd round pick to New York (via L.A. Clippers) [Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-New York, 7/30/2021]
2024 second round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 2024 2nd round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 31-50 and 56-60 or to New York (via Cleveland to Detroit to Philadelphia) protected for selections 31-55 (Miami's obligation(s) to Atlanta and/or New York will thereafter be extinguished) [Cleveland-Miami, 2/8/2018; Atlanta-Miami, 6/19/2019; Cleveland-Detroit, 6/26/2019; Detroit-Philadelphia, 7/7/2019; New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021]
2025 second round draft pick from Brooklyn
Brooklyn's 2025 2nd round pick to New York (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/13/2018; Atlanta-New York, 1/13/2022]
2026 second round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's 2026 2nd round pick to New York [Minnesota-New York, 11/24/2020]
2023 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]
2023 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) protected for selections 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2023 2nd round pick to New York (via Philadelphia to L.A. Clippers to Minnesota) [Detroit-Philadelphia, 6/21/2018; L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Minnesota, 11/19/2020; Minnesota-New York-Oklahoma City, 11/20/2020]
2024 second round draft pick from Utah or Cleveland (more favorable)
New York will receive the more favorable of Utah's 2024 2nd round pick and Cleveland's 2024 2nd round pick; Memphis will receive the more favorable of (i) Indiana's 2024 second round pick and (ii) the less favorable of the Utah pick and the Cleveland pick and Indiana will receive the least favorable of the three (via Utah's right to swap for Cleveland; via Milwaukee to Memphis) [Cleveland-Sacramento-Utah, 2/8/2018; New York-Utah, 11/22/2020; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021; Indiana-Milwaukee, 7/30/2021; Memphis-Milwaukee, 8/7/2021]
2024 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2024 2nd round pick to New York (via L.A. Clippers) [Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-New York, 7/30/2021]
2024 second round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 2024 2nd round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 31-50 and 56-60 or to New York (via Cleveland to Detroit to Philadelphia) protected for selections 31-55 (Miami's obligation(s) to Atlanta and/or New York will thereafter be extinguished) [Cleveland-Miami, 2/8/2018; Atlanta-Miami, 6/19/2019; Cleveland-Detroit, 6/26/2019; Detroit-Philadelphia, 7/7/2019; New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021]
2025 second round draft pick from Brooklyn
Brooklyn's 2025 2nd round pick to New York (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/13/2018; Atlanta-New York, 1/13/2022]
2026 second round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's 2026 2nd round pick to New York [Minnesota-New York, 11/24/2020]
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Those 1st round picks?


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moocow007 wrote:Those 1st round picks?
I don't think they have to be great. The Hawks first rounders for Murray certainly weren't.
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Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
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Bob Ross wrote:Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
Drafting is not yet an exact science; Many teams do screw up with their selections as well but Knicks take center stage bec its NY
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Adelheid wrote:Bob Ross wrote:Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
Drafting is not yet an exact science; Many teams do screw up with their selections too but Knicks take center stage bec its NY
I'm not sure what the stats are but we've had a lot of bites at the lotto apple and seems like most have been busts. RJ, Porzingis and hopefully Obi aside.
Feels like that for the Magic too
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The Knox one is unforgivable because we knew he had motor questions (how does a 19 year old have issues with work ethic?) and inconsistency. We had a "players" coach who was supposed to be good at working with players and developing them. and still couldn't develop him, complete bust-- couldn't even be developed into a back of rotation player, **** sad.
the next 3 drafted players- bridges x2, SGA. simply unforgivable.
the next 3 drafted players- bridges x2, SGA. simply unforgivable.
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Bob Ross wrote:Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
Only because we didn’t have many higher picks over the years.
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What was apparent in my eyes is that Knicks would normally choose guys with great measurables but very basic bball talent and at times, raw -- which is bad when you consider that the knicks are not good at developing rooks.
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spree2kawhi wrote:Bob Ross wrote:Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
Only because we didn’t have many higher picks over the years.
Somewhat but still a lot of misses that seemed like misses at the time. Sweetney felt like that, Jordan Hill felt like that
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Bob Ross wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Bob Ross wrote:Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
Only because we didn’t have many higher picks over the years.
Somewhat but still a lot of misses that seemed like misses at the time. Sweetney felt like that, Jordan Hill felt like that
They were picked around eight too, weren’t they?
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We have up to 4 firsts this year
Ours, Dallas', Detroit's, and Washington's
Dallas is protected top 10, Washington is protected lottery, and Detroit is protected top 18
So, best case scenario, we have our pick plus 11, 15, and 19. I doubt Detroit conveys to us this year, but it scales down after 2024 so it's only top 9 protected by 2027. I think there's a good chance it conveys by then, so it's fine that we don't get it this year, plus we wouldn't keep 4 firsts anyways. Dallas should convey (hopefully they're end of the lotto), and Washington might, they're really trying to make the play-in
Our 2nd is going to Minnesota
Now that it's been a week, I'm less mad than I was about the trade when it happened. I think, depending on where the actual picks end up (we also have Milwaukee's 2025 1st which is in essence top 4 protected but it'll likely be mid-20s at best), that's not terrible for essentially 11, 4 seconds, and dumping 30 mil of expirings. If the picks are all in the mid-20s, then it becomes much less of a good deal, and if it turns out we need to dump Brunson because he's underperforming, that also would make it worse
I don't love it, but I don't hate it any more. Now, with that being said, I also fully expect us to trade all those picks away at some point, so it'll probably be a moot point.
Ours, Dallas', Detroit's, and Washington's
Dallas is protected top 10, Washington is protected lottery, and Detroit is protected top 18
So, best case scenario, we have our pick plus 11, 15, and 19. I doubt Detroit conveys to us this year, but it scales down after 2024 so it's only top 9 protected by 2027. I think there's a good chance it conveys by then, so it's fine that we don't get it this year, plus we wouldn't keep 4 firsts anyways. Dallas should convey (hopefully they're end of the lotto), and Washington might, they're really trying to make the play-in
Our 2nd is going to Minnesota
Now that it's been a week, I'm less mad than I was about the trade when it happened. I think, depending on where the actual picks end up (we also have Milwaukee's 2025 1st which is in essence top 4 protected but it'll likely be mid-20s at best), that's not terrible for essentially 11, 4 seconds, and dumping 30 mil of expirings. If the picks are all in the mid-20s, then it becomes much less of a good deal, and if it turns out we need to dump Brunson because he's underperforming, that also would make it worse
I don't love it, but I don't hate it any more. Now, with that being said, I also fully expect us to trade all those picks away at some point, so it'll probably be a moot point.
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Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
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Synciere wrote:New York Knicks Future Draft Picks
2023 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]
2023 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) protected for selections 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2023 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2023 2nd round pick to New York (via Philadelphia to L.A. Clippers to Minnesota) [Detroit-Philadelphia, 6/21/2018; L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Minnesota, 11/19/2020; Minnesota-New York-Oklahoma City, 11/20/2020]
2024 second round draft pick from Utah or Cleveland (more favorable)
New York will receive the more favorable of Utah's 2024 2nd round pick and Cleveland's 2024 2nd round pick; Memphis will receive the more favorable of (i) Indiana's 2024 second round pick and (ii) the less favorable of the Utah pick and the Cleveland pick and Indiana will receive the least favorable of the three (via Utah's right to swap for Cleveland; via Milwaukee to Memphis) [Cleveland-Sacramento-Utah, 2/8/2018; New York-Utah, 11/22/2020; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021; Indiana-Milwaukee, 7/30/2021; Memphis-Milwaukee, 8/7/2021]
2024 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2024 2nd round pick to New York (via L.A. Clippers) [Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-New York, 7/30/2021]
2024 second round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 2024 2nd round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 31-50 and 56-60 or to New York (via Cleveland to Detroit to Philadelphia) protected for selections 31-55 (Miami's obligation(s) to Atlanta and/or New York will thereafter be extinguished) [Cleveland-Miami, 2/8/2018; Atlanta-Miami, 6/19/2019; Cleveland-Detroit, 6/26/2019; Detroit-Philadelphia, 7/7/2019; New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021]
2025 second round draft pick from Brooklyn
Brooklyn's 2025 2nd round pick to New York (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/13/2018; Atlanta-New York, 1/13/2022]
2026 second round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's 2026 2nd round pick to New York [Minnesota-New York, 11/24/2020]
Why isn't the Mil 2025 FRP not listed?
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Adelheid wrote:What was apparent in my eyes is that Knicks would normally choose guys with great measurables but very basic bball talent and at times, raw -- which is bad when you consider that the knicks are not good at developing rooks.
That's why I wanted Mikal Bridges that year. He was the more proven player but didn't seem to have the ceiling the other prospects did.
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knicksNOTslick wrote:Adelheid wrote:What was apparent in my eyes is that Knicks would normally choose guys with great measurables but very basic bball talent and at times, raw -- which is bad when you consider that the knicks are not good at developing rooks.
That's why I wanted Mikal Bridges that year. He was the more proven player but didn't seem to have the ceiling the other prospects did.
I wanted Miles. Given what has happened with him that would have been the most Knicks thing that could have happened. Would have gotten a budding star only to get banned from the league in his contract year.
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Bob Ross wrote:Frank and Knox drafts really set us back
The KP draft too since we did not keep him and traded him for DSJ. Its like giving away a 4th pick