GT: Knicks @ Hornets, Monday Jan 29, 7:00 PM

[K_ick_God]

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... hope things are okay with Evan

[Deeeez Knicks]

Sounds kinda serious. Hope everything is ok with Fournier

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[Lord Commander]

Randle or not, we gon sex these foos!! Less than 20pt margin doesn't count !!!

[F N 11]

OG the scorer tonight

Want to continue to see Grimes drive and this lineup will be better defending the 3.

I think we go crazy on them

[BKlutch]

I know the Knicks have typically been tight-lipped about injuries but I don't know how to take the delay in hearing about the MRI results. It could be as simple as them not releasing the info because they don't have to and they will not divulge anything until they must as per league rules.

The media may not like it but who cares what they like, although this will undoubtedly drive the anxiety levels in the fan base higher than they normally are, which is typically pretty high anyway. It makes me wonder if they're deep in trade negotiations and don't want to tip their hand with an update.

Unless there has been an update but I'm clueless because I don't tweeter so if there has, then never mind....has there been an update?

The Knicks are far too smart and Julius is far too valuable for the team to go with only what the first doctor says. It's clear they saw a few of the top specialists to make sure they agreed on this, so they don't have to worry they're giving him permanent damage when they put him back on the court. Even though test results are transmitted nearly instantly, it takes good doctors a while to look at all the data and give a really informed opinion. As much as the fans wanted to hear this ASAP, no good purpose would have been served if they whent with the fist diagnosis and then each of the next few had something very different to say.

Of course, when you consider all the collective hours of sleep lost and hours of worry by Knicks fans, we all wanted them to tell us within minutes of the end of the game.

[sol537]

Prob out 6 weeks to be safe. Then he'll have about 5-6 weeks to get back into the swing of things before the playoffs.

[Buttah304]

Josh Hart just averaged 7.9 RPG in January (13 games).

We might need him to ramp that up if it’s even possible and see some 14-16 rebound night efforts.

[docholliday99]

I think Hart will be the player that steps up the most. I'm assuming it will be a Brunson, DDV, Hart, Randle, Hartenstein starting unit with McBride, Grimes and Precious off the bench. That's pretty solid defensively, might be better actually, though I'm sure there will be a drop on the offensive end.
My concern for the Knicks before Randle's injury was their depth, even more-so now. They really should trade Fournier, Grimes, 2 frps for Murray and Mills - can't see any other team beating that. I think Murray would fit right in, even allow the Knicks to play small and fast with Randle at the 5.

I'd hate that. But I like Grimes a lot and the dozen or so Hawks games I've watched this season have me totally out on Murray. He's just too weak and lazy. He's shooting well but he's awful when it comes to scoring at the rim because he lacks the strength to deal with physicality, he gets pushed around 1-on-1 because of his lack of strength, and he dies on every screen.

Grimes has been so under whelming this season, oddly taking a step back in many areas compared to last year. I'd take Murray's 21/5/5 and defense when you add it in with Brunson, OG, Randle and Mitchell; plus his playmaking and 39% 3pt shooting is something that will help offset the pressure on Brunson and help pick-up the slack on the 2nd unit. Murray as a lead or next to a player like Trae? No, but Murray as a secondary playmaker next to Brunson, while looking at the whole starting unit and the effects on the second unit, I would take him. When the play matters most, the ball will be in Brunson's hands anyways.

[K_ick_God]

I think Hart will be the player that steps up the most. I'm assuming it will be a Brunson, DDV, Hart, Randle, Hartenstein starting unit with McBride, Grimes and Precious off the bench. That's pretty solid defensively, might be better actually, though I'm sure there will be a drop on the offensive end.
My concern for the Knicks before Randle's injury was their depth, even more-so now. They really should trade Fournier, Grimes, 2 frps for Murray and Mills - can't see any other team beating that. I think Murray would fit right in, even allow the Knicks to play small and fast with Randle at the 5.

I'd hate that. But I like Grimes a lot and the dozen or so Hawks games I've watched this season have me totally out on Murray. He's just too weak and lazy. He's shooting well but he's awful when it comes to scoring at the rim because he lacks the strength to deal with physicality, he gets pushed around 1-on-1 because of his lack of strength, and he dies on every screen.

Grimes has been so under whelming this season, oddly taking a step back in many areas compared to last year. I'd take Murray's 21/5/5 and defense when you add it in with Brunson, OG, Randle and Mitchell; plus his playmaking and 39% 3pt shooting is something that will help offset the pressure on Brunson and help pick-up the slack on the 2nd unit. Murray as a lead or next to a player like Trae? No, but Murray as a secondary playmaker next to Brunson, while looking at the whole starting unit and the effects on the second unit, I would take him. When the play matters most, the ball will be in Brunson's hands anyways.

Grimes has been getting going. I think it’s premature to deal him. Special gifts, like D.

[cgf]

I think Hart will be the player that steps up the most. I'm assuming it will be a Brunson, DDV, Hart, Randle, Hartenstein starting unit with McBride, Grimes and Precious off the bench. That's pretty solid defensively, might be better actually, though I'm sure there will be a drop on the offensive end.
My concern for the Knicks before Randle's injury was their depth, even more-so now. They really should trade Fournier, Grimes, 2 frps for Murray and Mills - can't see any other team beating that. I think Murray would fit right in, even allow the Knicks to play small and fast with Randle at the 5.

I'd hate that. But I like Grimes a lot and the dozen or so Hawks games I've watched this season have me totally out on Murray. He's just too weak and lazy. He's shooting well but he's awful when it comes to scoring at the rim because he lacks the strength to deal with physicality, he gets pushed around 1-on-1 because of his lack of strength, and he dies on every screen.

Grimes has been so under whelming this season, oddly taking a step back in many areas compared to last year. I'd take Murray's 21/5/5 and defense when you add it in with Brunson, OG, Randle and Mitchell; plus his playmaking and 39% 3pt shooting is something that will help offset the pressure on Brunson and help pick-up the slack on the 2nd unit. Murray as a lead or next to a player like Trae? No, but Murray as a secondary playmaker next to Brunson, while looking at the whole starting unit and the effects on the second unit, I would take him. When the play matters most, the ball will be in Brunson's hands anyways.

Have you watched Murray much? His defense has been terrible, Bogdanovic* is a lot better defensively for the Hawks in that exact same role, so it's not just the team / Trae. Dejounte can create...I don't think he's a high-level one, but the man is a starting caliber PG...but he'd be a huge step down from Quentin defensively.

And even with Grimes' slump** & Murray's hot streak, their 3pt rates are just 1.8% apart. So if either of them regresses towards their career #s in the second half of the season, that advantage for Murray will tip right back to Quentin.

Murray would definitely help our creation when Brunson sits, he's just such a bad fit next to Brunson that I wouldn't give Grimes up for him. If we could get him using our 2 FRPs this year & Fournier's expiring, then I'd be down to bring him in as our 6th man. But if Atlanta demands Grimes or any unprotected future FRPs, we're better off passing. Grimes will help us in the playoffs more than Murray would.


*speaking of Bogdan, Atlanta's Bogdanovic would be an interesting fit for us if Thibs sees Donte as a combo guard and not just a 2, cause I think DDV-Bogdan-Hart looks could keep the ball moving well even when Brunson sat.

**Quentin did undoubtedly have a poor start to the season that left him playing hesitant, but the past few weeks he's been looking more & more like himself, and playing more & more decisively.

[dakomish23]

My assumption is Hart is starting and moving OG up to PF. Sorry if I missed this being already said by Thibs somewhere

[Besart19]

We need two point guard lineups

Brunson / Brogdon
McBride / Donte
Grimes / Hayward
Anunoby / Josh Hart
Hartenstein / Achiuwa

2012-2013 lineups with Amare out

[Kidknick!]

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Frank has been trolling the league for years.

Have to respect his hustle.

The Cal Ripken of DNP's.

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[Spree2Houston]

Thibs going to start Hartenstein and Sims together

[RHODEY]

I think Hart will be the player that steps up the most. I'm assuming it will be a Brunson, DDV, Hart, Randle, Hartenstein starting unit with McBride, Grimes and Precious off the bench. That's pretty solid defensively, might be better actually, though I'm sure there will be a drop on the offensive end.
My concern for the Knicks before Randle's injury was their depth, even more-so now. They really should trade Fournier, Grimes, 2 frps for Murray and Mills - can't see any other team beating that. I think Murray would fit right in, even allow the Knicks to play small and fast with Randle at the 5.

I'd hate that. But I like Grimes a lot and the dozen or so Hawks games I've watched this season have me totally out on Murray. He's just too weak and lazy. He's shooting well but he's awful when it comes to scoring at the rim because he lacks the strength to deal with physicality, he gets pushed around 1-on-1 because of his lack of strength, and he dies on every screen.

LOL at you tearing Murray apart by focuses on his weakeness and/or making stuff up.

[RHODEY]

It's gonna feel like Christmas when we get both Julius and Mitch back.

[cgf]

I think Hart will be the player that steps up the most. I'm assuming it will be a Brunson, DDV, Hart, Randle, Hartenstein starting unit with McBride, Grimes and Precious off the bench. That's pretty solid defensively, might be better actually, though I'm sure there will be a drop on the offensive end.
My concern for the Knicks before Randle's injury was their depth, even more-so now. They really should trade Fournier, Grimes, 2 frps for Murray and Mills - can't see any other team beating that. I think Murray would fit right in, even allow the Knicks to play small and fast with Randle at the 5.

I'd hate that. But I like Grimes a lot and the dozen or so Hawks games I've watched this season have me totally out on Murray. He's just too weak and lazy. He's shooting well but he's awful when it comes to scoring at the rim because he lacks the strength to deal with physicality, he gets pushed around 1-on-1 because of his lack of strength, and he dies on every screen.

LOL at you tearing Murray apart by focuses on his weakeness and/or making stuff up.

I also admitted to his strengths in my next post, but they don’t make his weaknesses disappear *shrug*

And yeah, if he didn’t have those weaknesses, he’d be an interesting option at the 2…but he does, so he’s not…

[HighRyzer83]

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Nice to see Frank still nursing his vagina. What softy. Truly one of the all time Knicks busts

[thebuzzardman]

It's gonna feel like Christmas when we get both Julius and Mitch back.

More like it'll actually BE Christmas when Mitch finally returns