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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#61 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:26 am

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god shammgod wrote:what coach could make this work right now...3/4 of your rotation is injured


Not the point. Not about wins. About a psycho old lady making roster moves.

Got nice return in OG and Precious. That doesn’t mean you want a coach telling you get rid of this guy or that guy: he’s a loon and has gotten rid of half the roster.

In fact the winning is nice but short term and the true record is that this guy is constantly cycling through players because he’s a paranoid cloistered weirdo.


He doesn’t make the trades, the front office made these moves with the future in mind not just this season. And those dudes that got traded weren’t gonna be a part of it. With Bojan we still got a 20M contract on the books this year and next useful in trading for a star and he’s a lot better than Fournier. Grimes was done here


Thibs tells them who to get. He damn sure wanted Burks. The FO can eat a dick too for how they looked at the situation and allowed Thibs to run players into the ground.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#62 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:26 am

FWIW, this was the most satisfying loss we have had in a while. Got to see what's left of out bench (which included 3 starters) play out the end. Brunson and Hart got to rest their weary bones. Toppin showed a few things when he get a little more comfortable.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#63 » by sol537 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:33 am

IHart 36
Randle 40
OG 40
DDV 36
Brunson 40

That’s our playoff expected starting lineup and minute breakdown.

You got 48 total bench minutes that will go to Hart, Precious and a third guy. That’s it. Maybe Bogs if he can fit defensively. We’re gonna ride or die with the lineup that was so dominant after the OG trade. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#64 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:34 am

god shammgod wrote:what coach could make this work right now...3/4 of your rotation is injured



It's not so much about making it work but mitigating the damage, he keeps playing guys into the ground to make up for guys that are out, and in turn we're losing more and more of our rotational players.

These aren't really games we can win, dial back the minutes so more guys don't get hurt, call up more G-leaguers and when guys come back from injury, then it's time to go all out. Just look at how many minutes Precious has been playing, even before IHart got hurt his minutes were starting to get ridiculous.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#65 » by NiceLikeChrist » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:35 am

We couldn’t get gafford or Washington? We couldn’t get biyombo? We couldn’t get brogdon? We couldn’t just get bog for a little less?
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#66 » by TKKnicks1 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:40 am

sol537 wrote:IHart 36
Randle 40
OG 40
DDV 36
Brunson 40

That’s our playoff expected starting lineup and minute breakdown.

You got 48 total bench minutes that will go to Hart, Precious and a third guy. That’s it. Maybe Bogs if he can fit defensively. We’re gonna ride or die with the lineup that was so dominant after the OG trade. And there’s nothing wrong with that.


Bogs will be 8th guy. Thibs will run 9 deep though but the 9th guy will probably play 10-12 minutes at most. One of Burks/McBride will be the 9th guy. Knowing Thibs it will probably be Burks unfortunately.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#67 » by K_ick_God » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:42 am

Moving on again — but this time with no apology — Precious 6-7 from the line. He probably can get his jumper to go and he is not bad off the dribble.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#68 » by evevale » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:43 am

knicksgod turning into knixtape before our very eyes :noway:

as long as we don't suffer another significant injury in the next month i feel like there is a pretty good chance that this team will achieve an even higher ceiling after all the injuries than it would have otherwise

donte/precious and deeeez have all shown promising growth in the absence of the regulars - the idea of adding them in their current form to a healthy roster is what keeps me going through all this lol

still lots of games to be played & enjoy the week off folks
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#69 » by sol537 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:45 am

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sol537 wrote:IHart 36
Randle 40
OG 40
DDV 36
Brunson 40

That’s our playoff expected starting lineup and minute breakdown.

You got 48 total bench minutes that will go to Hart, Precious and a third guy. That’s it. Maybe Bogs if he can fit defensively. We’re gonna ride or die with the lineup that was so dominant after the OG trade. And there’s nothing wrong with that.


Bogs will be 8th guy. Thibs will run 9 deep though but the 9th guy will probably play 10-12 minutes at most. One of Burks/McBride will be the 9th guy. Knowing Thibs it will probably be Burks unfortunately.


I don’t think Thibs goes more than 7.5-8 in the playoffs. Not his nature. He’s gonna ride the starters hard and 1-2 bench guys and that’s about it.

I’m hoping Precious can work on his corner 3 and get it to a respectable 38% for next year. That would unlock him further.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#70 » by knicksNOTslick » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:46 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:We couldn’t get gafford or Washington? We couldn’t get biyombo? We couldn’t get brogdon? We couldn’t just get bog for a little less?

Washington was traded for a top 2 protected future first round pick. Gafford was also traded for a 1st rounder. Some other team overpaid by a lot to get them. Not us.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#71 » by Fat Kat » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:46 am

Thibs coaches like every game is the playoffs, and some fans root like every game is the playoffs.

Taj’s contract is up soon. Thanks for everything. Get some rest
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#72 » by G_K_F » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:49 am

At this point we would need to make a hard decision to keep Precious in the rotation when everyone comes back. We can’t destroy the guys’ confidence now. He’s playing on another level.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#73 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:51 am

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sol537 wrote:IHart 36
Randle 40
OG 40
DDV 36
Brunson 40

That’s our playoff expected starting lineup and minute breakdown.

You got 48 total bench minutes that will go to Hart, Precious and a third guy. That’s it. Maybe Bogs if he can fit defensively. We’re gonna ride or die with the lineup that was so dominant after the OG trade. And there’s nothing wrong with that.


Bogs will be 8th guy. Thibs will run 9 deep though but the 9th guy will probably play 10-12 minutes at most. One of Burks/McBride will be the 9th guy. Knowing Thibs it will probably be Burks unfortunately.


Brunson(40)/Burks(8)
DDV(36-40)/Burks(8-12)
OG(40)/Hart(8-12)
Randle(40)/Precious(8)
iHart/Mitch split minutes.

Bogs/Deuce will be situational at best or injury replacement.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#74 » by sol537 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:53 am

Burks has been terrible and is no play maker. We’re better off with Hart and DDV running the bench squad.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#75 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:57 am

KnicksGod wrote:Moving on again — but this time with no apology — Precious 6-7 from the line. He probably can get his jumper to go and he is not bad off the dribble.


No apologies necessary!! You were right about Burks and Thibs!!
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#76 » by NiceLikeChrist » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:59 am

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NiceLikeChrist wrote:We couldn’t get gafford or Washington? We couldn’t get biyombo? We couldn’t get brogdon? We couldn’t just get bog for a little less?

Washington was traded for a top 2 protected future first round pick. Gafford was also traded for a 1st rounder. Some other team overpaid by a lot to get them. Not us.

Hopefully we really do trade for a star this offseason then. We have a lot of guys to pay and we have the pieces needed to be a legit contender so hopefully something comes from our picks

This season I already feel like we’ll never be fully healthy so it is what it is
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#77 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:02 am

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KnicksGod wrote:We all know Thibs is a cantankerous SOB and sours on young players for no good reason — just his stupid private reasons that have nothing to do with anything

He threw up his arms twice at Deuce and meanwhile Burks is a mistake a minute and adds NADA

This is the definition of one man putting himself above the team


Man, you're really on one. :lol:

While I disagree with most of your recent work, I agree with the level of frustration with the overall tenor of Thibs' style and the net impact it has in the long run.


I have no problem with people being less sure about this than me. My follow-up question to all is this:

Do you want this man making any more roster decisions?

The guy who soured on RJ, Grimes, maybe IQ, Deuce, in favor of the likes of Burks.

The guy who plays everybody 42 minutes if they’re good and before he sours on them.

The guy who had iHart on the bench after Mitch went down. The guy who obviously thinks klutzy ass Mitch is great.

The guy who LOVES Randle no matter what he will do?

You want him deciding about Precious, about iHart, about whether to resign Burks?

You’re comfortable with more Thibs roster moves?

That’s what it means to keep this guy. And what in the hell is the point of drafting anybody with him as coach? You are delusional if you think ANY rookie is getting a role.


On the whole I'm not a Thibs fan, but the team is a very good roster, and things aren't as bad as they seem in the depths of this ridiculous roster shortage. In a couple of weeks they'll be able to field a viable NBA team again, and we'll be enjoying things. You're never as bad as it feels in a losing streak, and never as good as it seems during a winning one.

But I agree that alot of these problems are either caused (directly or indirectly) or exacerbated by Thibs. He can get the most out of some and create a team vibe, but man does he have blinders on in other facets of his job. I'm a believer that he elevates a roster's floor, but demonstrably caps their ceiling.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#78 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:02 am

ezmoney707 wrote:Miserable lot you all


it's really like 3 people who post the same thing 10 times per page.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#79 » by RHODEY » Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:06 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:We couldn’t get gafford or Washington? We couldn’t get biyombo? We couldn’t get brogdon? We couldn’t just get bog for a little less?

A little less than what..? (2) 2nd round picks? 20ppg 42 % elite 3point shooters that can also create for themselves don't grow on trees.

Yall have to see Burks for what he was..a throw in. When you look at it that way...he's a steal.
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Re: PG: Brunson survived 

Post#80 » by K_ick_God » Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:11 am

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KnicksGod wrote:Moving on again — but this time with no apology — Precious 6-7 from the line. He probably can get his jumper to go and he is not bad off the dribble.


No apologies necessary!! You were right about Burks and Thibs!!


Tbh I have supported Tom. I woke up and realized this ass is jus gonna keep getting rid of players on no basis at all — it’s gonna just keep going ad nauseum, recklessly, selfishly and neurotically! — and he has just horrible judgment.

For Alec Effing Burks, some flunky he had before. That’s major loser behavior.

And it’s so phony because Grimes was a defensive player with ceiling and didn’t make mistakes. It’s Thibs’ problem, not the team’s. He thinks he’s sitting on some throne. GTFO.

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