PG: Knicks vs Jazz

[Worst_to_First]

I am worried about KAT’s current cold streak. He is clearly affected by it to a point I think he is too conscious about his 3FG%. I think is what screwed him in that Mavs series. Should adopt more of a next shot goes in idgaf attitude and/or look to get more points on the inside or FT line.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I hate Mikal. He’s my new punching bag this season

He's been such a massive disappointment; I really can't even put into words how bad he's been now. Just two quick things to illustrate how bad he is, he's shooting 28% from three his last 10 games, and he hasn't taken a **** freethrow in 5 games, 11 goddamn freethrows on the season.

He had a drive tonight that he tried to finish with his left hand on the right side of the hoop for some reason. Guess he’s really scared of drawing contact? It felt like he was turning the corner but this was his worst game as Knick. we traded for him cuz of defense and shooting and he’s been terrible at both. He’s been the biggest issue this season and if he can’t get right it might derail the whole season.

Brunson and KAT didn't play well tonight, but they've had massive games already, meanwhile he's the only guy in the starting 5 so far that hasn't had a big impact statement game, he's just kind of along for the ride. I don't know what's going on with him, but this looks like all the worst versions of him rolled into one, the passive offensive Phoenix one, with the no defense from Brooklyn, and now he can't shoot ontop of it.

He's a guy that needs to have the random 30pt game, but he's taken a back seat to OG for whatever reason, when we need him to emerge as a 3rd scorer. He's been ass, when Brunson/KAT don't have it he needs to be the one to step up and set the tone, so far he looks like DeAndre Hunter.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

ehh i can't believe that...he loves getting to his middy and shoots it with crazy good EFF. Can't imagine him no wanting to shoot FT's.

The wing 3's are always short...he doesn't have the range the accuracy is still there.

He's averaging 0.7 freethrows per game, down from 3.9 last year and 6.6 with the Nets in 2023. When it comes to his shooting I don't trust anything, he has a different form for 3 different shots, he's going to have to prove he can make freethrows before I give him the benefit of the doubt. All faith I had in him as a shooter is gone, the form is horrible and I'm just waiting for the bottom to fall out on his middie next too.

I think your bein a little rough on him...prior to this game he had 6 straight games of 50% or better from the floor.

he had a bad game so did brunson and KAT. We had guys that were -30 +/- tonight.

I don't care about his FG% if he's not making high volume threes on good efficiency and not getting to the line. He shot 33% from three over that stretch, we didn't trade for him to be a poor man's DeMar DeRozan, we got him to be an elite 3 point shooter and defender, he's been neither.

And I will be very harsh with him considering what it took to get him and how thirsty he was to be here.

[WentzerWuver]

**** this team

Well, that didn't take long

Bet he says that after every loss and then come back for more Lol

[WentzerWuver]

He's averaging 0.7 freethrows per game, down from 3.9 last year and 6.6 with the Nets in 2023. When it comes to his shooting I don't trust anything, he has a different form for 3 different shots, he's going to have to prove he can make freethrows before I give him the benefit of the doubt. All faith I had in him as a shooter is gone, the form is horrible and I'm just waiting for the bottom to fall out on his middie next too.

I think your bein a little rough on him...prior to this game he had 6 straight games of 50% or better from the floor.

he had a bad game so did brunson and KAT. We had guys that were -30 +/- tonight.

I don't care about his FG% if he's not making high volume threes on good efficiency and not getting to the line. He shot 33% from three over that stretch, we didn't trade for him to be a poor man's DeMar DeRozan, we got him to be an elite 3 point shooter and defender, he's been neither.

And I will be very harsh with him considering what it took to get him and how thirsty he was to be here.

He's also one of Brunson's close buds so that makes it okay. I have no problems with Mikal but more on Kat inability to protect the rim even when he's right under it.

[HEZI]

I think even if they switched it wouldn’t have mattered because the effort just wasn’t there. And honestly a lot of their 3s weren’t even as a result of drop coverage. A lot of it was just no resistance , basic dribble drive and kick out, crashing boards and kicking out, walk up 3s in transition, etc.

We have done a much better job defending better teams than the Jazz but this was one of those November games on the road where we just didn’t have it. On to the next

[HEZI]

Trade Mikal for RJ Barrett

[mpharris36]

He's averaging 0.7 freethrows per game, down from 3.9 last year and 6.6 with the Nets in 2023. When it comes to his shooting I don't trust anything, he has a different form for 3 different shots, he's going to have to prove he can make freethrows before I give him the benefit of the doubt. All faith I had in him as a shooter is gone, the form is horrible and I'm just waiting for the bottom to fall out on his middie next too.

I think your bein a little rough on him...prior to this game he had 6 straight games of 50% or better from the floor.

he had a bad game so did brunson and KAT. We had guys that were -30 +/- tonight.

I don't care about his FG% if he's not making high volume threes on good efficiency and not getting to the line. He shot 33% from three over that stretch, we didn't trade for him to be a poor man's DeMar DeRozan, we got him to be an elite 3 point shooter and defender, he's been neither.

And I will be very harsh with him considering what it took to get him and how thirsty he was to be here.

He's never been an elite 3 pt shooter tho. Great from the corners but only shot over 39% once in his career and he never was a high volume guy in PHX either. Never like +2 3pt made until he got to Brooklyn and then he became more of a league avg shooter with higher volume.

I thought he was turning the corner defensively recently. So much more impact but today they energy just wasn't there all around.

I think the trade was made because he was a connector type piece. Obviously the nova connection played a part. But if you were just looking for 3pt shooting and ok defense Cam Johnson probably would have been better.

What Mikal brings is more secondary playmaker and in theory higher level defender.

Also his contract played a part too since we basically didn't have to trade any rotation player to acquire so the contract fit into the new CBA.

Also his durability is a factor. Like Paul George is a better player but he's not on the court anymore for a lot of games. In a league where durability is a concern for nearly every team. Bridges can be counted on.

So yes in a silo I dont think he individually will live up to the trade value. It's our team success that will determine if it was a good trade or not.

[sol537]

We need more defensive stoppers. Cant have three defensive holes in the starting lineup in JB, KAT, and Hart. Even two is bad. Precious, where art though?

[NiceLikeChrist]

Finished watching.

I watched the entire 1st quarter grimacing wondering wtf mikal was doing out there. He was playing especially erratic and like someone told him he had to be the #2 option tonight at minimum.

Our defense is so bad. I said before the game they had to go into this one saying they would hold Utah under 100 pts. Not a tall ask. They avg 109 and are a bad team. They somehow give up 120+ on 51% from the field and 56% from 3.

Nobody can hit a shot outside of OG and thibs is too hardheaded to let Pacome get more than 3 mins and let it fly. Maybe make something happen. He was playing solid defense too. Don’t know why we challenged Kessler so much in the paint and why we couldn’t score on the worst defense in the league regardless of 3pt shot not falling.

This was an embarrassing loss

[iLLSonChandla]

Trade Bridges for Ingram

[Jalen Bluntson]

We need more defensive stoppers. Cant have three defensive holes in the starting lineup in JB, KAT, and Hart. Even two is bad. Precious, where art though?

Hart is not a defensive hole. Do any stats point to that? He never stood out as poor defender to me.

[Jeffrey]

WTF happened... geezus christ

[Enzo954]

Mikal should come off the bench if his game is going to continually be ass with the starting unit. Problem is Thibs is too much of a puss to do it.

[sol537]

We need more defensive stoppers. Cant have three defensive holes in the starting lineup in JB, KAT, and Hart. Even two is bad. Precious, where art though?

Hart is not a defensive hole. Do any stats point to that? He never stood out as poor defender to me.

He’s been awful this season. At least part of the reason has been fatigue from overuse and from being undersized. The rest of it has been scheme and his laziness. He’s been cooked on the regular.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I didn't see this game but, the thread sounds like every other game we lose. Teams shoot lights out from three. We shoot poorly. Giving up too many open threes? Not adjusting to what's going on and not trusting the bench? I guess it's safe to say I don't wanna see this one. Really expected a win but, damn.

[Buttah304]

For the life of me I don’t understand how the charity stripe aspect of Mikal isn’t giving people nightmares. Yes the shot looks broken and his above the break threes have been abysmal. But the downward spiral of his FTA per game is like The Conjuring 4.

22-23 Season:

Feb: 5.6 FTA
March: 7.2 FTA
April: 6.6 FTA

23-24 Season:

October through January: 5.1 FTA
Feb: 2.2 FTA
March: 3.1 FTA
April: 1.0 FTA

24-25 Season:

October: 1.8 FTA
November: .4 FTA

[WaltFrazier]

Such a downer tonight after being on a high after the Suns game and winning streak. Something needs to change

[NiceLikeChrist]

All I could think of watching that first quarter was how amazing life would be if we somehow had booker instead of bridges

[Jalen Bluntson]

Such a downer tonight after being on a high after the Suns game and winning streak. Something needs to change

We need our bench back. Thibs is gonna Thibs but, Deuce/Precious will make a difference. Eventually Mitch will be back as well. We just don't have a full team yet. Thibs just isn't gonna trust the rookies.

Deuce/Payne/Precious/Mitch with Sims/Dadiet in the wings. I'm gonna remain calm until then.