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Re: Shams: Landry Shamet Is Back 

Post#61 » by cgf » Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:01 pm

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Yup, come playoff time I only expect to see McBride, Payne, and Mitch(or Precious, depending on the matchup)


I expect Mitch to be playing close to 30 MPG come playoff time and frankly, him being healthy is one of the biggest keys to this whole thing.

KAT’s 37 playoff minutes would then be split 50-50 between PF and C. With Hart getting about 29 MPG at the 4. Assuming your playing OG about 37 playoff minutes, Thibs is probably running Hart at the 3 the other 11 minutes keeping him around 40 MPG

C: Robinson (30), Towns (18)
PF: Towns (19), Hart (29)
SF: Anunoby (37), Hart (11)
SG: Bridges (37), McBride (12)
PG: Brunson (37), McBride (12)

Of course, Payne could end up getting 12 MPG at backup PG and McBride could eat some of Harte minutes. But the general play your top guys 37ish MPG come playoff time, with Mitch getting 30 and Hart 40 is the formula.

Really wish the coach would let the bench eat more regular season minutes even at the cost of a few wins. But it’s not how he does things.


Mitch has never averaged 30 mins per game in his career. I don’t think that’s realistic. Especially not coming off a long injury like this.


Averaging 30 is a stretch, but Mitch has averaged around 25-27mpg since his sophomore season and probably he's not putting his body through as much wear & tear as he would be if he was playing. Though I do think this where Precious & Cam will both give us .5 of a rotation guy in the playoffs, with 12-16 minute roles for both of them. Deuce & Mitch will probably be in the mid 20s. While Brunson, Bridges, Hart, Anunoby, and Towns in the mid to high 30s.
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Re: Shams: Landry Shamet Is Back 

Post#62 » by GettinitDone » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:45 pm

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BKlutch wrote:LOL NO. The one they didn't bring back is the one some have called a demon.


Not looking to relitigate the trade as I'm thrilled with the team we have and am just trying to enjoy the ride, wherever it takes us

...but that "demon" has been a force for the wolves; even though they haven't clicked as quickly as we have...possibly because Finch hasn't given their core guys as many in-game reps as Thibs has and Donte has been pouting too much to earn a starting spot.

Randle's scoring a bit less & his rebounding is down bigly, but he's maintaining the ~60% TS he posted after those first 6 games last year...shooting just 35% from 3, so he's not juicing his efficiency with a hotstreak from deep...and he's creating a lot of open looks with his AST% in the 20s, despite how poorly Minny is shooting + them still figuring out where to go when Julius makes his moves.

Again love what KAT is doing for us, he's very easy to cheer for, and I'm happy about the trade, but we don't need to dump on one of the few Wolves who's playing close to his abilities despite their lack of chemistry to prop Towns up. Karl has been awesome in his own right.

I was more commenting on the use of the word "demon" to describe Shamet for recovering more quickly from his shoulder injury without surgery. I also mentioned others have used that word to describe who we traded, although I myself have never thought of him that way. It's probably true when their team isn't playing well, certain players can become "demonized" by the fans and the media. Last year should have shown everyone that with the right coaching, a player can do relatively well for us and then not be as successful in a different offense and coaching. A major factor over there is their guard, Ant, is stymied by their lack of spacing and his lesser success shooting from 3. Ant hasn't adapted to this well and has expressed considerable frustration in the media about the lack of driving lanes for him.


Lol you misunderstood the word "demon" I used, it's NOT "demonizing" or to demonize

Demon = insanely good/ talented player/ superstar
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Re: Shams: Landry Shamet Is Back 

Post#63 » by BKlutch » Wed Dec 25, 2024 12:37 am

cgf wrote:
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cgf wrote:
Not looking to relitigate the trade as I'm thrilled with the team we have and am just trying to enjoy the ride, wherever it takes us

...but that "demon" has been a force for the wolves; even though they haven't clicked as quickly as we have...possibly because Finch hasn't given their core guys as many in-game reps as Thibs has and Donte has been pouting too much to earn a starting spot.

Randle's scoring a bit less & his rebounding is down bigly, but he's maintaining the ~60% TS he posted after those first 6 games last year...shooting just 35% from 3, so he's not juicing his efficiency with a hotstreak from deep...and he's creating a lot of open looks with his AST% in the 20s, despite how poorly Minny is shooting + them still figuring out where to go when Julius makes his moves.

Again love what KAT is doing for us, he's very easy to cheer for, and I'm happy about the trade, but we don't need to dump on one of the few Wolves who's playing close to his abilities despite their lack of chemistry to prop Towns up. Karl has been awesome in his own right.

I was more commenting on the use of the word "demon" to describe Shamet for recovering more quickly from his shoulder injury without surgery. I also mentioned others have used that word to describe who we traded, although I myself have never thought of him that way. It's probably true when their team isn't playing well, certain players can become "demonized" by the fans and the media. Last year should have shown everyone that with the right coaching, a player can do relatively well for us and then not be as successful in a different offense and coaching. A major factor over there is their guard, Ant, is stymied by their lack of spacing and his lesser success shooting from 3. Ant hasn't adapted to this well and has expressed considerable frustration in the media about the lack of driving lanes for him.


Ah gotcha. My bad for assuming you were just s***ting on Randle with that comment, totally see how you meant it now. Should've caught that on a first-read.


And yeah, their shooting is really killing them. Not just the KAT to Ju downgrade, but Donte (33%) & Reid (35%) are both shooting much worse than they were last year, McDaniels' shooting seems to have regressed again (32%)...and Mike Conley suddenly starting to look his age has hurt them a lot, both in terms of spacing and their offensive structure.

Ant has adapted pretty well as a scorer as he & Ju have shown some natural sense for how to play off of each other's drives, but at this point in his career, Edwards jsut doesn't have Jalen's control of an offense, so an Ant-DDV backcourt doesn't run a game the same way a Brunson-DDV backcourt did even if Donte got his shot right.

I like what I've seen of Dillingham and Minott, but those kids aren't ready to turn the tide if their top 8...Conley | DDV | NAW | Ant | McDaniels | Reid | Randle | Gobert...doesn't gel and start shooting a lot better. Though Dilly can sometimes provide that spark off the bench.

We're both pretty much on the same page with this.
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Re: Shams: Landry Shamet Is Back 

Post#64 » by BKlutch » Wed Dec 25, 2024 12:38 am

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cgf wrote:
Not looking to relitigate the trade as I'm thrilled with the team we have and am just trying to enjoy the ride, wherever it takes us

...but that "demon" has been a force for the wolves; even though they haven't clicked as quickly as we have...possibly because Finch hasn't given their core guys as many in-game reps as Thibs has and Donte has been pouting too much to earn a starting spot.

Randle's scoring a bit less & his rebounding is down bigly, but he's maintaining the ~60% TS he posted after those first 6 games last year...shooting just 35% from 3, so he's not juicing his efficiency with a hotstreak from deep...and he's creating a lot of open looks with his AST% in the 20s, despite how poorly Minny is shooting + them still figuring out where to go when Julius makes his moves.

Again love what KAT is doing for us, he's very easy to cheer for, and I'm happy about the trade, but we don't need to dump on one of the few Wolves who's playing close to his abilities despite their lack of chemistry to prop Towns up. Karl has been awesome in his own right.

I was more commenting on the use of the word "demon" to describe Shamet for recovering more quickly from his shoulder injury without surgery. I also mentioned others have used that word to describe who we traded, although I myself have never thought of him that way. It's probably true when their team isn't playing well, certain players can become "demonized" by the fans and the media. Last year should have shown everyone that with the right coaching, a player can do relatively well for us and then not be as successful in a different offense and coaching. A major factor over there is their guard, Ant, is stymied by their lack of spacing and his lesser success shooting from 3. Ant hasn't adapted to this well and has expressed considerable frustration in the media about the lack of driving lanes for him.


Lol you misunderstood the word "demon" I used, it's NOT "demonizing" or to demonize

Demon = insanely good/ talented player/ superstar

I know, and I was trying to make a joke about how that word has been used. If you read some comments, Julius is a demon or devil. He's certainly not, despite his flaws!
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