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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#61 » by Fat Kat » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:24 am

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Fat Kat wrote:Not gonna win them all. Team had a good run just to play like trash tonight. Hope OG is OK. Good game Hart. Shamet is barely a rotation player. I’d like to see Pacome get some run while OG is out.


Shamet over Dadiet is a head scratcher TBH

And we need front court size and don't even try to roll out Hukporti for even a few minutes. Precious has helped, but it isn't enough

And don't get me started on Kolek when Cam was out there wilding tonight


We want Pacome but we know that we’re gonna get TJ Warren.
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#62 » by whocares1 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:25 am

mpharris36 wrote:I'm not even going to get on thibs for OG...I could but not going there. Brunson and KAT sucked...it happens.

I continue to harp on the glaring lack of 3 pt defense....he said it again in a win yesterday. He talks about our "shell" he talks about protecting the paint. He never mentions 3 pt defense because he doesn't think its a swing factor. He believe we will cancel out the other teams 3 pt shooting because of our talent.

In games where teams switch on us we have no answers to get up high volume 3's other than going 1 on 1 ISO's. And on defense we give up the same open 3's time and time again.

Let LeBron go for 50-60 if he wants...its letting guys like Rui, Vincent, DFS get hot from 3 (on wide open look after wide open look) is where you lose games. Role players getting confidence shooting early is a recipe for disaster and there was zero adjustment.

And the funny thing is we play HOU who will do the same thing as LA just did. Will there be an adjustment? Unlikely. We just better hope and pray Brunson/KAT have much better games.


Because our 3 point defense is a byproduct of our lack of interior defense. We play a style of defense where the players have to defend the players from the perimeter to the rim bc we don’t have an elite big protecting the paint. It leaves the players with no room for error. Players instinctively would rather give up a three than be beat to the rim, or force help which leads to open dunks.

Once we get Robinson back I think players will feel more comfortable closing out and not worrying about giving up a layup if they can’t recover.
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#63 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:26 am

matchman wrote:I am now waiting "Awful coaching" clip to yell at all those defensive mistakes made in this game to leave wide open threes and layup drills.

He refuses to cover the Knicks games anymore because he doesn’t want to make a 35 minute video. He’d lose his voice
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#64 » by GettinitDone » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:26 am

Now OG is gonna be out for weeks, I think Precious, not Deuce, is gonna start

C- KAT
PF - Precious
SF - Mikal
SG - Josh
PG - JB

Butch718 wrote:I don’t care how good they’ve looked during certain stretches at times during the season.

This team is dead last in 3 pt defense. They’re not winning anything when their perimeter defense is that bad. Losing Og for any extended period of time will make their glaring weakness even worse.

Also, I am super concerned about KAT. He has looked so awful since he injured himself. He can’t shoot worth a damn.

This team is not a contender. I’ve seen enough stretches of awful perimeter defense throughout the season to know that this team won’t go far when they can’t guard the 3.


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When Leon made the Mikal trade to create Wingstop... did he ever imagine we'd rank LAST in 3 pt shooting defense (we officially rank 30th after this game), rank 18th in opponents FG%, rank 18th in opponents' TOs, I think not
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#65 » by Spot31 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:27 am

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Iron Mantis wrote:Got embarrassed at home by a 45 year old crackhead pumped up on steroids.

Knicks have the worst 3pt defense in NBA history and now OG is in the hospital.

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The same Chris Rock showing appreciation of Lebum is shameful too. Fake azz fans.


Spike Lee too, dapping it up with James and his son during shoot around....what a clown.
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#66 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:28 am

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mpharris36 wrote:I'm not even going to get on thibs for OG...I could but not going there. Brunson and KAT sucked...it happens.

I continue to harp on the glaring lack of 3 pt defense....he said it again in a win yesterday. He talks about our "shell" he talks about protecting the paint. He never mentions 3 pt defense because he doesn't think its a swing factor. He believe we will cancel out the other teams 3 pt shooting because of our talent.

In games where teams switch on us we have no answers to get up high volume 3's other than going 1 on 1 ISO's. And on defense we give up the same open 3's time and time again.

Let LeBron go for 50-60 if he wants...its letting guys like Rui, Vincent, DFS get hot from 3 (on wide open look after wide open look) is where you lose games. Role players getting confidence shooting early is a recipe for disaster and there was zero adjustment.

And the funny thing is we play HOU who will do the same thing as LA just did. Will there be an adjustment? Unlikely. We just better hope and pray Brunson/KAT have much better games.


Because our 3 point defense is a byproduct of our lack of interior defense. We play a style of defense where the players have to defend the players from the perimeter to the rim bc we don’t have an elite big protecting the paint. It leaves the players with no room for error. Players instinctively would rather give up a three than be beat to the rim, or force help which leads to open dunks.

Once we get Robinson back I think players will feel more comfortable closing out and not worrying about giving up a layup if they can’t recover.


That’s right. Chicago, who are #2 in 3 pt defense are well known for having the second coming of Hakeem at the 5

It’s just unreasonable to think that we should be the WORST in the entire league at defending the 3. There is no excuse for it given our roster. I don’t give a damn if we had a WNBA center out there
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#67 » by Guano » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:29 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:brunson and kat sucked. i want monday's game more than tonight's one anyways. houston is a bigger test


might need to temper your expectations with og out

:noway: really hate to see your lack of confidence in josh hart. what a hater


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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#68 » by spree8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:29 am

“By my metrics, Thibs is the greatest at improving players performances. Thibs isn’t responsible for player injuries, there’s no such thing as overuse.”

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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#69 » by mpharris36 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:31 am

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mpharris36 wrote:I'm not even going to get on thibs for OG...I could but not going there. Brunson and KAT sucked...it happens.

I continue to harp on the glaring lack of 3 pt defense....he said it again in a win yesterday. He talks about our "shell" he talks about protecting the paint. He never mentions 3 pt defense because he doesn't think its a swing factor. He believe we will cancel out the other teams 3 pt shooting because of our talent.

In games where teams switch on us we have no answers to get up high volume 3's other than going 1 on 1 ISO's. And on defense we give up the same open 3's time and time again.

Let LeBron go for 50-60 if he wants...its letting guys like Rui, Vincent, DFS get hot from 3 (on wide open look after wide open look) is where you lose games. Role players getting confidence shooting early is a recipe for disaster and there was zero adjustment.

And the funny thing is we play HOU who will do the same thing as LA just did. Will there be an adjustment? Unlikely. We just better hope and pray Brunson/KAT have much better games.


Because our 3 point defense is a byproduct of our lack of interior defense. We play a style of defense where the players have to defend the players from the perimeter to the rim bc we don’t have an elite big protecting the paint. It leaves the players with no room for error. Players instinctively would rather give up a three than be beat to the rim, or force help which leads to open dunks.

Once we get Robinson back I think players will feel more comfortable closing out and not worrying about giving up a layup if they can’t recover.



Your wrong...

DFS got hot because he was playing the 5...and just picking and popping and KAT was in drop coverage and couldn't recover. That had nothing to do with lack of interior defense. Instead of just switching KAT on LeBron and living with the results...they felt giving up wide open 3's were a better plan.

Its not instincts its drilled in our players to overhelp one pass away. They only switch out of necessity instead of going in with that game plan.

Again if your not going to spam KAT offense to make teams pay with going small vs them (and not just by ISO's and post ups). Put KAT in some dame pin downs screens so he can get the ball going to the basket instead of trying to do every flat footed.
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#70 » by GettinitDone » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:31 am

mpharris36 wrote:I'm not even going to get on thibs for OG...I could but not going there. Brunson and KAT sucked...it happens.

I continue to harp on the glaring lack of 3 pt defense....he said it again in a win yesterday. He talks about our "shell" he talks about protecting the paint. He never mentions 3 pt defense because he doesn't think its a swing factor. He believe we will cancel out the other teams 3 pt shooting because of our talent.

In games where teams switch on us we have no answers to get up high volume 3's other than going 1 on 1 ISO's. And on defense we give up the same open 3's time and time again.

Let LeBron go for 50-60 if he wants...its letting guys like Rui, Vincent, DFS get hot from 3 (on wide open look after wide open look) is where you lose games. Role players getting confidence shooting early is a recipe for disaster and there was zero adjustment.

And the funny thing is we play HOU who will do the same thing as LA just did. Will there be an adjustment? Unlikely. We just better hope and pray Brunson/KAT have much better games.


Yup the Aaron Wigggins or Isaiah Joes will feast on 3s against our defense, now we officially rank 30th in opponents' 3P% after this game

Dillon Brooks gonna do the same in next game
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#71 » by TKKnicks1 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:32 am

I believe it was Deuce who came up big for us with OG out last season so hoping he can do it again. Mitch will be ready as well in a couple weeks so maybe we can get by without OG. Let's hope it's no more than 10 games.
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#72 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:32 am

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might need to temper your expectations with og out

:noway: really hate to see your lack of confidence in josh hart. what a hater


Cant be bothered with the knicks - currently watching my boy Camara lock up kd. 8-)

:lol: camara is a legit all nba defender fr though. he is going to be a problem for years. also ayton is having a revenge game against phoenix. fk phoenix for choosing monty over him
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Post#73 » by sol537 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:34 am

Wolves lost to the Wizards and Houston lost to the Nets so I don’t feel as bad about this lol
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#74 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:34 am

Was at this game tonight
Zero adjustments by Thibs
Drop coverage galore
And we finally lost OG
Was only a matter of time
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#75 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:36 am

sol537 wrote:Wolves lost to the Wizards and Houston lost to the Nets so I don’t feel as bad about this lol

wolves didn't have anthony edwards and randle
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#76 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:39 am

Wasn't our night.

Glad OG didn't break anything cause the guy is snake bitten and can get hurt shaving or brushing his teeth it seems. And lmao at you thinking his sprained his foot cause of too many minutes :lol: You are beyond stupid!

F LeBron and f all the "fans" who cheered for this douche diva who refused to come here. I hope this pos retires already. SICK OF HIM!
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#77 » by GettinitDone » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:39 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote: :noway: really hate to see your lack of confidence in josh hart. what a hater


Cant be bothered with the knicks - currently watching my boy Camara lock up kd. 8-)

:lol: camara is a legit all nba defender fr though. he is going to be a problem for years. also ayton is having a revenge game against phoenix. fk phoenix for choosing monty over him


You're our official Knicks role player scout because of Ayton, LaVine, DMitch, Randle you watch tons of Blazer, Bull, Cav, Wolf games enough you spot talent like Camara... doubt Blazers trade him tho, any other talent we should look out for ?? :P
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#78 » by sol537 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:39 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
sol537 wrote:Wolves lost to the Wizards and Houston lost to the Nets so I don’t feel as bad about this lol

wolves didn't have anthony edwards and randle


We didn’t have Mitchell Robinson and Pacome Dadiet
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#79 » by sol537 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:40 am

GettinitDone wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
Cant be bothered with the knicks - currently watching my boy Camara lock up kd. 8-)

:lol: camara is a legit all nba defender fr though. he is going to be a problem for years. also ayton is having a revenge game against phoenix. fk phoenix for choosing monty over him


You're our official Knicks role player scout because of Ayton, LaVine, DMitch, Randle you watch tons of Blazer, Bull, Cav, Wolf games enough you spot talent like Camara... doubt Blazers trade him tho, any other talent we should look out for ?? :P


Deni would be a great pick up but they prob won’t trade him either.
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Re: PG: Knicks lose to Lakers 

Post#80 » by Adelheid » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:42 am

cheering for bronny is just **** weird however you slice it

just so weird, man

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