PG: The Tyler Kolek Game
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Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
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You do not need to be athletic to play pg on the offensive end. Defensively he needs work. But he possesses an above average skill, which is his ability get to the paint and find the open man. His passing skills are very good. That alone would earn him minutes under any sane coach. He can be an effective backup pg, but he’s neither been given the minutes or chance to learn and grow from his mistakes. You cannot make any real assessments on what he can’t do when there is virtually no sample size to draw conclusions from, since he hasn’t played any meaningful minutes until last night.
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Gravy wrote:Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
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Synciere wrote:R-DAWG wrote:Kolek-Sanity!
Doesn’t have the same ring.
Last year it was Burks-Sanity so this is a little more fun
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HighRyzer83 wrote:Gravy wrote:Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
I see we're doing Frank all over again where if he only got a steady 30 minutes every night next to starters and never got benched and never got yelled at and the coach gave him regular hugs he would be Magic Johnson but mean old Thibs hates him. He was literally Larry Bird last night and won us the game.
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Either way Tyler def needs more minutes especially with Brunson out.
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Good for Kolek, he can be a bench PG but 4 points and 8 assists and he’s now Mark Price?
For reference, here’s an old post about Frank by one of the Kolek=All NBA people
For reference, here’s an old post about Frank by one of the Kolek=All NBA people
He will be a guy who is capable of putting up a quiet 18 points a game while dominating in other facets. He will have some higher scoring games too because with confidence his kind of IQ means he'll know when to apply pressure through scoring. And he has the tools to score. His shot is already good, just needs more reps. And he has far more ability to penetrate and finish than I think even many of his biggest fans yet realize. He's a total package.

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Either way Tyler def needs more minutes especially with Brunson out.
He will get them until either Brunson or McBride come back
He’s not going to play over Payne either. That’s the actual dilemma here. McBride can play off ball but Kolek is not going to play over Payne. And it’s not just the coach either it’s political because his Mikal’s best buddy trying for another contract
Payne would be the new Elfrid Payton around here before long but thankfully the season is almost over. Expect extra harshness on Payne for the rest of the year
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robillionaire wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Either way Tyler def needs more minutes especially with Brunson out.
He will get them until either Brunson or McBride come back
He’s not going to play over Payne either. That’s the actual dilemma here. McBride can play off ball but Kolek is not going to play over Payne. And it’s not just the coach either it’s political because his Mikal’s best buddy trying for another contract
Payne would be the new Elfrid Payton around here before long but thankfully the season is almost over. Expect extra harshness on Payne for the rest of the year
He should get minutes until both come back. Brunson has been out 3 weeks and Tyler couldn't get any minutes. That is 100% the coach. He really should have been playing . Knicks offense has looked terrible and we could def use a boost. When everyone is healthy he probably doesn't play.
Just a missed opportunity to let him get experience and see if he can help.
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PF: Lauri Markkanen | Randle | Tucker
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C: Horford | Goga | Paul Reed |
PF: Lauri Markkanen | Randle | Tucker
SF: Trey Murphy | Trent | Anderson | Simone
SG: Vassell | Trent | Livingston
PG: Spida | Mann | Deuce
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Deeeez Knicks wrote:robillionaire wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Either way Tyler def needs more minutes especially with Brunson out.
He will get them until either Brunson or McBride come back
He’s not going to play over Payne either. That’s the actual dilemma here. McBride can play off ball but Kolek is not going to play over Payne. And it’s not just the coach either it’s political because his Mikal’s best buddy trying for another contract
Payne would be the new Elfrid Payton around here before long but thankfully the season is almost over. Expect extra harshness on Payne for the rest of the year
He should get minutes until both come back. Brunson has been out 3 weeks and Tyler couldn't get any minutes. That is 100% the coach. He really should have been playing . Knicks offense has looked terrible and we could def use a boost. When everyone is healthy he probably doesn't play.
Just a missed opportunity to let him get experience and see if he can help.
Same old same old with Thibs. 16-17 players on the roster. 8 of them play all of the minutes all season long until they get hurt. Then we find we actually have a decent player or two rotting on the bench all year because Thibs is a moron.
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Kampuchea wrote:Good for Kolek, he can be a bench PG but 4 points and 8 assists and he’s now Mark Price?
For reference, here’s an old post about Frank by one of the Kolek=All NBA peopleHe will be a guy who is capable of putting up a quiet 18 points a game while dominating in other facets. He will have some higher scoring games too because with confidence his kind of IQ means he'll know when to apply pressure through scoring. And he has the tools to score. His shot is already good, just needs more reps. And he has far more ability to penetrate and finish than I think even many of his biggest fans yet realize. He's a total package.

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Development isn't just go out and play. Kolek has had his reps in the G League. The Knicks can't blow people out enough to get him steady minutes. We don't play the Wixards all the time.HighRyzer83 wrote:Gravy wrote:Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
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prophet_of_rage wrote:Development isn't just go out and play. Kolek has had his reps in the G League. The Knicks can't blow people out enough to get him steady minutes. We don't play the Wixards all the time.HighRyzer83 wrote:Gravy wrote:Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
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Really? He played in 4 games for Westchester. Is that what you call getting G League reps for development?
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prophet_of_rage wrote:Development isn't just go out and play. Kolek has had his reps in the G League. The Knicks can't blow people out enough to get him steady minutes. We don't play the Wixards all the time.HighRyzer83 wrote:Gravy wrote:Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
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Do your research before you try to stand on something. Below are Tyler's stats for all the reps you claim he's been getting in the G League. He's basically been rotting on Thib's bench for the entire year.

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Gravy wrote:HighRyzer83 wrote:Gravy wrote:Kolek was ok in the first half taking advantage of a streaky Mikal who couldn't miss. In the 2nd half the Knicks went cold and Wizard started playing like a real NBA team Kolek looked overmatched. Smart saw bbq chicken and was abusing him.
Kolek has nice skills like on the and 1 layup but I don't know if it's enough to overcome his small body and lack of athletism. Even Ron Baker seemed stronger iirc. We'll get a chance to see what he can do until the other guys get back, so this is his opportunity.
Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
I see we're doing Frank all over again where if he only got a steady 30 minutes every night next to starters and never got benched and never got yelled at and the coach gave him regular hugs he would be Magic Johnson but mean old Thibs hates him. He was literally Larry Bird last night and won us the game.
Apparently you do Frank all the time, the amount of trauma that dude caused you and the resulting impact it had on you needs to be studied. Every thread you mention him, so I had to check and of course you were comparing Deuce/Grimes to Frank the same way you're doing now with Tyler.
Gravy wrote:I doubt a different coach would have done a much better job with this roster and all the injuries. The biggest problem has been at pg and the season was lost when Rose was gone. Combine that with Kemba being washed, Randle taking a step back, RJ's mystery illness that made him terrible the first half of the season, constant center injuries, Fournier's lack of defense, Deuce being Frank on offense, its hard to blame it ALL on Thibs even though he's had his issues too.
Your go to deflection move is comparing every young player to Frank, it's hilarious
It's okay Bro, Frank can't hurt you anymore.
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Gravy wrote:HighRyzer83 wrote:Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
I see we're doing Frank all over again where if he only got a steady 30 minutes every night next to starters and never got benched and never got yelled at and the coach gave him regular hugs he would be Magic Johnson but mean old Thibs hates him. He was literally Larry Bird last night and won us the game.
Apparently you do Frank all the time, the amount of trauma that dude caused you and the resulting impact it had on you needs to be studied. Every thread you mention him, so I had to check and of course you were comparing Deuce/Grimes to Frank the same way you're doing now with Tyler.Gravy wrote:I doubt a different coach would have done a much better job with this roster and all the injuries. The biggest problem has been at pg and the season was lost when Rose was gone. Combine that with Kemba being washed, Randle taking a step back, RJ's mystery illness that made him terrible the first half of the season, constant center injuries, Fournier's lack of defense, Deuce being Frank on offense, its hard to blame it ALL on Thibs even though he's had his issues too.
Your go to deflection move is comparing every young player to Frank, it's hilarious![]()
It's okay Bro, Frank can't hurt you anymore.
You guys dont learn from the Frank years not compare every single draft pick to a superstar that Thibs failed to develop so we need to remind yall. This isnt some huge NBA travesty that Kolek is getting minutes in his rookie season after a few months. Relax and enjoy the minutes he's getting now.
I'll say this is at least something different than Thibs, Thibs, Thibs THIBS THHII%IB@S!! every post so keep up the Kolek talk
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Gravy wrote:HighRyzer83 wrote:Smart was making tough shots that you'd let him take anytime. Kolek looked unusually polished for someone who was completely denied development time. If he was properly played he would likely made all rookie team
I see we're doing Frank all over again where if he only got a steady 30 minutes every night next to starters and never got benched and never got yelled at and the coach gave him regular hugs he would be Magic Johnson but mean old Thibs hates him. He was literally Larry Bird last night and won us the game.
Apparently you do Frank all the time, the amount of trauma that dude caused you and the resulting impact it had on you needs to be studied. Every thread you mention him, so I had to check and of course you were comparing Deuce/Grimes to Frank the same way you're doing now with Tyler.Gravy wrote:I doubt a different coach would have done a much better job with this roster and all the injuries. The biggest problem has been at pg and the season was lost when Rose was gone. Combine that with Kemba being washed, Randle taking a step back, RJ's mystery illness that made him terrible the first half of the season, constant center injuries, Fournier's lack of defense, Deuce being Frank on offense, its hard to blame it ALL on Thibs even though he's had his issues too.
Your go to deflection move is comparing every young player to Frank, it's hilarious![]()
It's okay Bro, Frank can't hurt you anymore.
What? You don't see the similarities in physical profile and approach to the game between Kolek and Frank? Every time I see that lanky MFer get in the game I just wish he would be more aggressive.
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