[Camelo Thread Part 20] - NYK Meeting W/ Melo on Fri (Pg 52)

ComboGuardCity · Post #601 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:05 pm

god shammgod wrote:mr. dolan, that's your cue. peace gallo.

its inevitable and necessary at this point.Funny thing is though, even if Gallo is gone, this may be a better deal than was proposed a few days ago...Walsh with tricks?

MaluKing2K · Post #602 » by **MaluKing2K** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 pm

the fact that Melo is denying a meeting with Prokorov makes me convinced Denver is making the whole thing up and Donnie has called the bluff this far so why not push it until the trade deadline on Thursday.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/b ... index.html

NewEra · Post #603 » by **NewEra** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 pm

Shows just how much Roger Mason sucks that his name hasn't been mentioned once. Not even as an idea. Why is this guy on the team again?

haterade · Post #604 » by **haterade** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 pm

I was listening to the Colin Cowherd show this morning and he was interviewing Jerry West. Cowherd is in the boat of giving up the farm for Melo and he asked Jerry West about it. First thing Jerry West said was Walsh is a very respected and smart GM. Then he went on to say that the Knicks are in the position of power in this negotiation and that they should give up minimal assets for Melo.

Jitpal · Post #605 » by **Jitpal** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 pm

Pharmcat wrote:if you dont trade for him, then said players also better carry this team deeper than he can

Why would no deal change expectations? The shelf life of a Melo/Amare/Billups core is this year and next. You have to make noise. A core of Felton/Amare/Gallo/Fields has a shelf life of at least 5 years and you still have flexibility to get better from outside and inside. One gives you a shot for literally 1 1/2 seasons. The other way gives you the ability to setup a long term championship contender. -Jitpal

Pharmcat · Post #606 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 pm

god shammgod wrote:mr. dolan, that's your cue. peace gallo.

how much does he need? trade gallo, if mike isnt happy, can him too...2 birds with one stone

Post #607 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:07 pm

Fat Man wrote:
GONYK wrote:What is this "as long as the Knicks are in the race" bullsh*t?

Melo decides who is in the race.

Yes, but the guy wants his extension too. For that to happen, he needs another competitor to push the Knicks, otherwise, he doesn't think Walsh will seriously negotiate because he thinks he can get him as a FA.

There has always been a conflict of interest here because Melo doesn't want to wait will FA. I think he has made that clear the past week or so.

False. All he has to do is say he is going to FA.

He should be forcing Denver's hand, not ours.

King of Troy · Post #608 » by **King of Troy** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:07 pm

haterade wrote:I was listening to the Colin Cowherd show this morning and he was interviewing Jerry West. Cowherd is in the boat of giving up the farm for Melo and he asked Jerry West about it. First thing Jerry West said was Walsh is a very respected and smart GM. Then he went on to say that the Knicks are in the position of power in this negotiation and that they should give up minimal assets for Melo.

Colin Cowherd is an idiot. I'm ashamed to share a name with him.

adog50 · Post #609 » by **adog50** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm

KBerg_CBS
Losing $ as free agent? "That's why I'm about to go meet with Billy Hunter. I'm about to go to that meeting right now."

this is what has to scare us

Subway Token · Post #610 » by **Subway Token** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
god shammgod wrote:mr. dolan, that's your cue. peace gallo.

how much does he need? trade gallo, if mike isnt happy, can him too...2 birds with one stone

Boy did I hate you during the LeBronathon... but I can't agree with you more with this entire thing.

RHODEY · Post #611 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm

taj2133 wrote:If gallo is the hold up in this trade dolan himself will get in this and ship gallo.

Sometimes I just don't understand you guys. Instead of envisioning how good we could be, how good we need to be if we could hold on the Gallo, you guys are treating him like he is irrelevant.

Common sense IMO says he is not only is Gallo relevant, but he may be the difference between us being an "Altanta hawks" or being something more,way more.

He may be the difference (if we can use him as trade bait for Paul, Deron, D.Howard) between being a "good team" and being a contender. I just don't get some of you guys here.... WHY THE F SHOULD WE EVER BID AGAINST OURSELVES?

Isn't that what we pay Walsh for? Or do we pay Walsh to just give away talent because the other team makes crazy demands from a position of weakness.

ibraheim718 · Post #612 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm

haterade wrote:I was listening to the Colin Cowherd show this morning and he was interviewing Jerry West. Cowherd is in the boat of giving up the farm for Melo and he asked Jerry West about it. First thing Jerry West said was Walsh is a very respected and smart GM. Then he went on to say that the Knicks are in the position of power in this negotiation and that they should give up minimal assets for Melo.

That's interesting... But to be fair to Jerry (and I love him) he's not close enough to the situation to judge how much power the Knicks actually have. I'm sure he would admit that much.

Pharmcat · Post #613 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm

Jitpal wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:if you dont trade for him, then said players also better carry this team deeper than he can

Why would no deal change expectations? The shelf life of a Melo/Amare/Billups core is this year and next. You have to make noise. A core of Felton/Amare/Gallo/Fields has a shelf life of at least 5 years and you still have flexibility to get better from outside and inside. One gives you a shot for literally 1 1/2 seasons. The other way gives you the ability to setup a long term championship contender. -Jitpal

there is plenty of flexibility to get better after melo trade, its been explained numerous times

bottom line:

if team is not trading the players to get melo, then those said players better take team farther than what a melo team could do...b/c if they cant, then they shouldnt be holding a deal up

Post #614 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm

adog50 wrote:KBerg_CBS
Losing $ as free agent? "That's why I'm about to go meet with Billy Hunter. I'm about to go to that meeting right now."

this is what has to scare us

Scare him you mean.

We don't give a sh*t if he loses money.

czoneny · Post #615 » by **czoneny** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

adog50 wrote:KBerg_CBS
Losing $ as free agent? "That's why I'm about to go meet with Billy Hunter. I'm about to go to that meeting right now."

this is what has to scare us

how does that scare us? the media has been throwing around bull**** numbers like him losing $65mil if he goes to FA, Hunter will tell him its nowhere near as grim as that.

KnicksManiac · Post #616 » by **KnicksManiac** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

adog50 wrote:KBerg_CBS
Losing $ as free agent? "That's why I'm about to go meet with Billy Hunter. I'm about to go to that meeting right now."

this is what has to scare us

Melo said this?????????????????????????????????????????

taj2133 · Post #617 » by **taj2133** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

Like I said before if we don't get carmelo and gallo is the only hold up in trade he is going be the most hated guy in nyc.

King of Troy · Post #618 » by **King of Troy** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

RHODEY wrote:
taj2133 wrote:If gallo is the hold up in this trade dolan himself will get in this and ship gallo.

Sometimes I just don't understand you guys. Instead of envisioning how good we could be, how good we need to be if we could hold on the Gallo, you guys are treating him like he is irrelevant.

Common sense IMO says he is not only is Gallo relevant, but he may be the deference between us being an "Altanta hawks" or being something more,way more.

He may be the difference (if we can use him as trade bait for Paul,Deron, D.Howard) between being a "good team" and being a contender. I just don't get some of you guys here.... WHY THE F SHOULD WE EVER BID AGAINST OURSELVES?

Isn't that what we pay Walsh for? Or do we pay Walsh to just give away talent because the other team makes crazy demands from a position of weakness.

The board reeks of only half thought out plans. People too concerned with instant gratification then exacting a well thought out plan.

iDunk · Post #619 » by **iDunk** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:10 pm

I love how everyone is reading between the lines what Melo said. You think he rehearsed what he was going to say? Half of what he said was off the top of his head, and bull. He's just trying to handle this well, he obviously knows where he wants to go, he knows about the NJ trade, he knows he doesn't want to go there, he can't just go live and say I don't want to go to the Nets.

This guy will be a Knick or Nugget at the end of the day.

Subway Token · Post #620 » by **Subway Token** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:10 pm

KnicksManiac wrote:
adog50 wrote:KBerg_CBS
Losing $ as free agent? "That's why I'm about to go meet with Billy Hunter. I'm about to go to that meeting right now."

this is what has to scare us

Melo said this?????????????????????????????????????????

Omg, who cares. This is NEW FREAKING YORK. Imagine the publicity that this duo would get? Are you joking? Melo will be swimming in golden rivers..