Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[BKlutch]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

[WherezDa90sNIX]

For the max, why not?

The max discount


Why not wait to see what else is out there?

A the F*** men!

[CJackson]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

[DOT]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

He's not wrong though
Walt definitely wasn't a point guard 100 years ago

[DLTGWH]

Knicks haven't had even a mediocre PG who wasn't a million years old by the time he played in NY in forever and people wanna just complain about Rose? SMDH...

Rose sabre will never look good being he don't shoot threes but what the guy does well; get into lane at will, break down interior D, close out games, he does at elite level. Of course I don't have stats to prove it but I do have my own damn two eyes.

Rose started slowly which is justified without a preseason but has coniinued to look better and I for one am tired of the pie in the sky pipedreaming every free agency. Rose a winner always has been. If he healthy thats ma dude. Max cat or not

[WherezDa90sNIX]

Why are we talking about extending anyone IN DECEMBER? Of course KNICKS ORG will say that they are willing to extend anyone... What? You gonna say "No, we are not considering extending him!" He is currently on this team until the end of this season!... We need him to play like his life depends on it!

The knicks will shop around for better option, while we act we gonna sign him...
Oh... shyt... I forgot... this team is ran by... PHIL... Jack...son...

Please disregard.

[NYKMentality85]

Over the past 10 gms Rose has averaged 19.3 points, 4.9 assists & 4.3 rebounds per game while shooting .468% from the field.

Over the past 5 gms Rose has averaged 20.6 points, 5.0 assists and 5.2 rebounds per game while shooting .481% from the field.

As a Knicks fan I'm absolutely loving it and looking forward to his matchup against Goran Dragić tonight down in south beach.

It's been a long time coming since N.Y's last featured a PG who could not only take pressure off of Anthony (offensively) but also attack opposing defenses, penetrate into the lane at ease, blow past & beat his defender 1 on 1 while driving to the rim at will.

So many teams around the NBA lack a 3rd scorer. N.Y of the 90's lacked a 3rd scorer behind Starks & Ewing. It's a breath of fresh air having a 3rd scoring option in Rose (an attacking/scoring PG) who can average 20 points per game alongside of two natural/pure scorers in Anthony & Porzingis.

I've said it dating back to the offseason; a scoring trio of Rose, Anthony & Porzingis can become a defensive nightmare for opponents come postseason play - especially with role players in Jennings, Lee, Holiday, Kuzminskas, Hernangomez, O'Quinn & Noah all knowing their roles as role playing role players.

[BKlutch]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

What I meant was, DRose scoring points does NOT mean he's not a good point guard. Frazier, Steph, and Kyrie all prove the point against those who are saying he should pass more and score less. If everybody is efficient, then I'm not worried with him taking those shots. I've noticed that Melo is a lot more efficient lately, and expect that KP will be, after he gets out of his slump.

[BKlutch]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

He's not wrong though
Walt definitely wasn't a point guard 100 years ago

OK, but it seems like 100 years since we last won.

[NYKMentality85]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

What I meant was, DRose scoring points does NOT mean he's not a good point guard. Frazier, Steph, and Kyrie all prove the point against those who are saying he should pass more and score less. If everybody is efficient, then I'm not worried with him taking those shots. I've noticed that Melo is a lot more efficient lately, and expect that KP will be, after he gets out of his slump.

BKlutch: Some fans just don't know/understand/comprehend how pivotal (crucial importance) it is to feature a 3rd scoring option on a nightly basis.

Rose having the ability to drop 20+ per night alongside of two pure scorers in Anthony & Porzingis is a breath of fresh air.

As already mentioned N.Y of the early to mid 90's always lacked a true 3rd scoring option behind our offensive duo of Starks & Ewing. Starks & Ewing would've killed for a 3rd scoring option of Rose's caliber. Charles Oakley was truly a great grinder down low within the paint, but as a 3rd scoring option his 10.4 points per game (during his Knicks tenure) just wasn't enough to get us over the mountain top. There were years where Mason & Smith were our 3rd scoring optios as well; and that just wasn't going to cut it either.

Fans complaining of Rose having the ability to score due to being an attacking/scoring PG should go back in history and re-live the days where both Starks & Ewing could only dream about playing alongside of a 3rd scoring option with 20+ point scoring ability. I've never forgotten those days.

[BKlutch]

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

What I meant was, DRose scoring points does NOT mean he's not a good point guard. Frazier, Steph, and Kyrie all prove the point against those who are saying he should pass more and score less. If everybody is efficient, then I'm not worried with him taking those shots. I've noticed that Melo is a lot more efficient lately, and expect that KP will be, after he gets out of his slump.

BKlutch: Some fans just don't know/understand/comprehend how pivotal (crucial importance) it is to feature a 3rd scoring option on a nightly basis.

Rose having the ability to drop 20+ per night alongside of two pure scorers in Anthony & Porzingis is a breath of fresh air.

As already mentioned N.Y of the early to mid 90's always lacked a true 3rd scoring option behind our offensive duo of Starks & Ewing. Starks & Ewing would've killed for a 3rd scoring option of Rose's caliber. Charles Oakley was truly a great grinder down low within the paint, but as a 3rd scoring option his 10.4 points per game (during his Knicks tenure) just wasn't enough to get us over the mountain top. There were years where Mason & Smith were our 3rd scoring optios as well; and that just wasn't going to cut it either.

Fans complaining of Rose having the ability to score due to being an attacking/scoring PG should go back in history and re-live the days where both Starks & Ewing could only dream about playing alongside of a 3rd scoring option with 20+ point scoring ability. I've never forgotten those days.

I'm glad to see somebody else remembers how things were from having lived through them. I was a kid and first became aware of basketball during the Knicks' championship in 1970. I thought running the offense, scoring within the system, and playing D were all what a good PG does. Now, we're in an era when people think Rubio is fine without any scoring. Let's see him win a ring before we conclude that's the way to do it. BTW, one thing I saw during that 1970 series was that Phil Jackson defended almost every inbounds play - and now they often use KP to do the same thing. Phil's arms were very long for his height, and he was very disruptive. Glad to see they've brought that play back. I saw KP block an inbounds play in the last game, and loved it.

[3toheadmelo]

label Derrick rose whatever u want "shooting guard, monta Ellis jr, etc") he's balling out right now and that's all that matters

[CJackson]

Sure he was. Did you really mean to say that? He's one of the all-time best PG's. I saw him play in person and he was great because he did all the things you describe WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED. If they needed him to carry the team, Clyde did it. They won a championship with him doing just that to the Lakers. But he was the ultimate PG in that he allocated the ball where it was best served, but he could flip the switch when he had to.

He could do both though. In the legendary 7th game of the 1970 Finals, Clyde had 36 points + 19 Assists. Beat that with a stick

What I meant was, DRose scoring points does NOT mean he's not a good point guard. Frazier, Steph, and Kyrie all prove the point against those who are saying he should pass more and score less. If everybody is efficient, then I'm not worried with him taking those shots. I've noticed that Melo is a lot more efficient lately, and expect that KP will be, after he gets out of his slump.

BKlutch: Some fans just don't know/understand/comprehend how pivotal (crucial importance) it is to feature a 3rd scoring option on a nightly basis.

Rose having the ability to drop 20+ per night alongside of two pure scorers in Anthony & Porzingis is a breath of fresh air.

As already mentioned N.Y of the early to mid 90's always lacked a true 3rd scoring option behind our offensive duo of Starks & Ewing. Starks & Ewing would've killed for a 3rd scoring option of Rose's caliber. Charles Oakley was truly a great grinder down low within the paint, but as a 3rd scoring option his 10.4 points per game (during his Knicks tenure) just wasn't enough to get us over the mountain top. There were years where Mason & Smith were our 3rd scoring optios as well; and that just wasn't going to cut it either.

Fans complaining of Rose having the ability to score due to being an attacking/scoring PG should go back in history and re-live the days where both Starks & Ewing could only dream about playing alongside of a 3rd scoring option with 20+ point scoring ability. I've never forgotten those days.

You're pushing your luck now. Don't be so smug or you'll get flamed.

Your opinion is not so valuable that you can afford to be so damn pretentious.

[blueNorange]

Last year, Kyrie was not a true point guard, but his team won.
Two years ago, Steph was not a true point guard, but his team won.
100 years ago, Walt Frazier was not a point guard, but his team won twice with him averaging 21 - 22 points / game. He ran the offense intelligently, broke down the defense, played hard D, and was part of one of the smartest teams in NBA history. They won those games with less physical talent that their opponents, but they outplayed them as a team because they all knew each other so damn well.

What we need from DRose in order to resign him is to see how well he knows his teammates and how well he can make each of them better. If he can score, it's a bonus.

It's a process, and either he gets better week by weak throughout the season (so that we're really playing well by playoff time), or he's not worth an extension. This also assumes he holds up physically.

whoever said kyrie irving and stephen curry were point guards?

[NYKMentality85]

So many attacking PG's have scoring ability within today's NBA.

Westbrook: 31.0.
Harden: 28.7.
Lillard: 27.9.
Curry: 26.2.
Isaiah: 26.0.
Irving: 24.4.
Kemba: 23.6.
Wall: 22.4.
Lowry: 20.6.
Hill: 20.0.
Bledsoe: 19.3.
Conley: 19.2.
CP3: 17.8.
Dragic: 17.1.
Rose: 17.0 (19.3 previous 10 games).

But appearantely, according to some; Rose shouldn't look to provide us with a 3rd scoring option due to being a "PG". It's head scratching.

Rose also has a FG% higher than 8 of those 14 scoring PG's listed above. His season FG% of .455% (rapidly increasing) is basically tied with that of CP3's (.456).

Although I'd like to see Rose average about 6.5 assists per game (around top 10 amongst PG's) I really can't even complain about his 4.9 assists per game either; considering the fact that only two PG's are currently averaging over 10 assists per game (Westbrook & Harden).

[blueNorange]

What I meant was, DRose scoring points does NOT mean he's not a good point guard. Frazier, Steph, and Kyrie all prove the point against those who are saying he should pass more and score less. If everybody is efficient, then I'm not worried with him taking those shots. I've noticed that Melo is a lot more efficient lately, and expect that KP will be, after he gets out of his slump.

BKlutch: Some fans just don't know/understand/comprehend how pivotal (crucial importance) it is to feature a 3rd scoring option on a nightly basis.

Rose having the ability to drop 20+ per night alongside of two pure scorers in Anthony & Porzingis is a breath of fresh air.

As already mentioned N.Y of the early to mid 90's always lacked a true 3rd scoring option behind our offensive duo of Starks & Ewing. Starks & Ewing would've killed for a 3rd scoring option of Rose's caliber. Charles Oakley was truly a great grinder down low within the paint, but as a 3rd scoring option his 10.4 points per game (during his Knicks tenure) just wasn't enough to get us over the mountain top. There were years where Mason & Smith were our 3rd scoring optios as well; and that just wasn't going to cut it either.

Fans complaining of Rose having the ability to score due to being an attacking/scoring PG should go back in history and re-live the days where both Starks & Ewing could only dream about playing alongside of a 3rd scoring option with 20+ point scoring ability. I've never forgotten those days.

You're pushing your luck now. Don't be so smug or you'll get flamed.

Your opinion is not so valuable that you can afford to be so damn pretentious.

i mean he's done this before, he's the ultimate troll.

he says outrageous things and calls people out by a game by game basis, he's already doing the 'bumping up old threads' thing again.

dude is talking about a different era, if rose played with starks/ewing he'd either be an even more inefficient player or on the injured reserve after being thrown to the floor numerous times because of the sacred nolayuprule motto that teams played with in the 90's

[Knicksfan1992]

Believe it or not Melo is probably our best playmaker/passing decision maker in the starting line-up. I like what Rose brings and he's starting to finish at the rim and add the floater to his game more and more. I think Hornacek is noticing this as I've started seeing him put Melo in more pick and rolls recently.

[blueNorange]

So many attacking PG's have scoring ability within today's NBA.

Westbrook: 31.0.
Harden: 28.7.
Lillard: 27.9.
Curry: 26.2.
Isaiah: 26.0.
Irving: 24.4.
Kemba: 23.6.
Wall: 22.4.
Lowry: 20.6.
Hill: 20.0.
Bledsoe: 19.3.
Conley: 19.2.
CP3: 17.8.
Dragic: 17.1.
Rose: 17.0 (19.3 previous 10 games).

But appearantely, according to some; Rose shouldn't look to provide us with a 3rd scoring option due to being a "PG". It's head scratching.

Rose also has a FG% higher than 8 of those 14 scoring PG's listed above. His season FG% of .455% (rapidly increasing) is basically tied with that of CP3's (.456).

Although I'd like to see Rose average about 6.5 assists per game (around top 10 amongst PG's) I really can't even complain about his 4.9 assists per game either; considering the fact that only two PG's are currently averaging over 10 assists per game (Westbrook & Harden).

the ones bolded aren't point guards.

[F N 11]

Rose just tries to pick his spots. His jumper is coming and thats very scary for opposing teams.

[HEZI]

Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio