2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

TheGreenArrow · Post #601 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:16 pm

Aleksej Pokusevski Is creeping up into my top 6.

Post #602 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:23 pm

Main targets:
1.Ball
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

Wild Card Pick: Poku
Backup Plan: Vassell

If Edwards, Wiseman or Onyeka fall into our lap then might have to take those guys too at a certain spot, but fading Edwards/Wiseman and not expecting Onyeka

knickstape21 · Post #603 » by **knickstape21** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:39 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Main targets:
1.Ball
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

Wild Card Pick: Poku
Backup Plan: Vassell

If Edwards, Wiseman or Onyeka fall into our lap then might have to take those guys too at a certain spot, but fading Edwards/Wiseman and not expecting Onyeka

I like it!

Think if we’re stuck at 7/8 they go with Vassell over a guy like Poku just cause I think they’re ready to jump start into a competitive team. I believe they’re confident in landing a Booker or Mitchell or 2021 FA at some point and Vassell fits really well. Adding piece to puzzle, basically.

Richard4444 · Post #604 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:47 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:New big board

1.lamelo
2.hayes
3.edwards
4.wiseman
5.cole
6-10.trade the pick for assets.

I am more willing to buy picks than to sell picks. I would give Frank, Knox, Dennis or Randle to move up or get another mid/late FRP.

I dont think we are in a stage to give up top 10 picks to trade for no all star players like Buddy Hill and Aaron Gordon. And no way selling top 10 picks to get 30y+ old veteran like Cris Paul. Even Oladipo, I dont think worth a Top 10 FRP.

3toheadmelo · Post #605 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:49 pm

blueNorange wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Haliburton finished left less than Hayes finished with his right....

I think Hayes only finished right like once just like Haliburton with his left lol

this draft is so flawed every prospect has a huge question mark attached to them.

i'm just avoiding the lavar ball circus **** show, last thing we need is lavar blaming rj for lamelo's lack of spacing or saying Mitchell isn't anything without lamelo

Wiseman to me is the only player without a huge question mark attached to them imo. Too bad he won’t drop to us

Post #606 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:52 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Main targets:
1.Ball
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

Wild Card Pick: Poku
Backup Plan: Vassell

If Edwards, Wiseman or Onyeka fall into our lap then might have to take those guys too at a certain spot, but fading Edwards/Wiseman and not expecting Onyeka

I like it!

Think if we’re stuck at 7/8 they go with Vassell over a guy like Poku just cause I think they’re ready to jump start into a competitive team. I believe they’re confident in landing a Booker or Mitchell or 2021 FA at some point and Vassell fits really well. Adding piece to puzzle, basically.

Yea, its hard to see anyone taking Poku that high although you never know. Its real tough to judge Poku since there's not much and he is going against some real bad competition. Physically, can see the potential though and i dont see many other high potential guys.

I do like Vassell out of the other wing players. He just passes the eye test for me and seems like he will be a good starter, although i do question his ceiling.

HEZI · Post #607 » by **HEZI** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 4:56 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Main targets:
1.Ball
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

Wild Card Pick: Poku
Backup Plan: Vassell

If Edwards, Wiseman or Onyeka fall into our lap then might have to take those guys too at a certain spot, but fading Edwards/Wiseman and not expecting Onyeka

I like it!

Think if we’re stuck at 7/8 they go with Vassell over a guy like Poku just cause I think they’re ready to jump start into a competitive team. I believe they’re confident in landing a Booker or Mitchell or 2021 FA at some point and Vassell fits really well. Adding piece to puzzle, basically.

Yea, its hard to see anyone taking Poku that high although you never know. Its real tough to judge Poku since there's not much and he is going against some real bad competition. Physically, can see the potential though and i dont see many other high potential guys.

I do like Vassell out of the other wing players. He just passes the eye test for me and seems like he will be a good starter, although i do question his ceiling.

I like Vassell. I kinda get some Josh Richardson vibes about him. I think he can be a really solid starter

blueNorange · Post #608 » by **blueNorange** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 5:01 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I think Hayes only finished right like once just like Haliburton with his left lol

this draft is so flawed every prospect has a huge question mark attached to them.

i'm just avoiding the lavar ball circus **** show, last thing we need is lavar blaming rj for lamelo's lack of spacing or saying Mitchell isn't anything without lamelo

Wiseman to me is the only player without a huge question mark attached to them imo. Too bad he won’t drop to us

his question mark is playing like 3 games so people are just gonna go off of potential, which is better than everyone elses.

Buttah304 · Post #609 » by **Buttah304** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 5:43 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Aleksej Pokusevski Is creeping up into my top 6.

Bol Bol Folks. Bol Bol.

Post #610 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 5:55 pm

HEZI wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
I like it!

Think if we’re stuck at 7/8 they go with Vassell over a guy like Poku just cause I think they’re ready to jump start into a competitive team. I believe they’re confident in landing a Booker or Mitchell or 2021 FA at some point and Vassell fits really well. Adding piece to puzzle, basically.

Yea, its hard to see anyone taking Poku that high although you never know. Its real tough to judge Poku since there's not much and he is going against some real bad competition. Physically, can see the potential though and i dont see many other high potential guys.

I do like Vassell out of the other wing players. He just passes the eye test for me and seems like he will be a good starter, although i do question his ceiling.

I like Vassell. I kinda get some Josh Richardson vibes about him. I think he can be a really solid starter

Yea, that is a pretty good comparison. Can see something like that.

Post #611 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 5:55 pm

Alex Kline sounds like the real deal. I can't remember any President being able to rebuild the Knicks organization like Rose has.

Read on Twitter

TheGreenArrow · Post #612 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:07 pm

Buttah304 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:Aleksej Pokusevski Is creeping up into my top 6.

Bol Bol Folks. Bol Bol.

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #613 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 7:57 pm

getrichordie wrote:We are finally finished polling! Cheers to everyone who participated! Thanks!

Thoughts?

CONSENSUS BIG BOARD

Anthony Edwards
2. LaMelo Ball
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Deni Avdija
6. Tyrese Haliburton
7. Isaac Okoro
8. Cole Anthony
9. Onyeka Okongwu
10. Devin Vassell
11. Obi Toppin
12. R.J. Hampton
13. Tyrese Maxey
14. Kira Lewis Jr.
15. Aaron Nesmith
16. Aleksej Pokusevski
17. Patrick Williams
18. Josh Green
19. Jaden McDaniels
20. Paul Reed
21. Grant Riller
22. Saddiq Bey
23. Theo Maledon
24. Precious Achiuwa
25. Tyler Bey
26. Jalen Smith
27. Leandro Bolmaro
28. Jahmi'us Ramsey
29. Isaiah Stewart
30. Tyrell Terry

Here’s the general boards big board if anyone cares.

DaGawd · Post #614 » by **DaGawd** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 8:35 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
Buttah304 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:Aleksej Pokusevski Is creeping up into my top 6.

Bol Bol Folks. Bol Bol.

We need to avenge that Porzingis fail.. ill allow it

HarthorneWingo · Post #615 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 8:48 pm

blueNorange wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
blueNorange wrote:this draft is so flawed every prospect has a huge question mark attached to them.

i'm just avoiding the lavar ball circus **** show, last thing we need is lavar blaming rj for lamelo's lack of spacing or saying Mitchell isn't anything without lamelo

Wiseman to me is the only player without a huge question mark attached to them imo. Too bad he won’t drop to us

his question mark is playing like 3 games so people are just gonna go off of potential, which is better than everyone elses.

Now you did it.

And. Here.We. Go.

HarthorneWingo · Post #616 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 8:49 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:We are finally finished polling! Cheers to everyone who participated! Thanks!

Thoughts?

CONSENSUS BIG BOARD

Anthony Edwards
2. LaMelo Ball
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Deni Avdija
6. Tyrese Haliburton
7. Isaac Okoro
8. Cole Anthony
9. Onyeka Okongwu
10. Devin Vassell
11. Obi Toppin
12. R.J. Hampton
13. Tyrese Maxey
14. Kira Lewis Jr.
15. Aaron Nesmith
16. Aleksej Pokusevski
17. Patrick Williams
18. Josh Green
19. Jaden McDaniels
20. Paul Reed
21. Grant Riller
22. Saddiq Bey
23. Theo Maledon
24. Precious Achiuwa
25. Tyler Bey
26. Jalen Smith
27. Leandro Bolmaro
28. Jahmi'us Ramsey
29. Isaiah Stewart
30. Tyrell Terry

Here’s the general boards big board if anyone cares.

newyorker4ever · Post #617 » by **newyorker4ever** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 9:16 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:where has the turnaround on hayes stemmed from? Im glad you have seen the light but wasn't a week or two ago he was getting called brickillian from you

Ran across a really nice video of him recently with some nice plays that I hadn't seen before. Also I see he's been putting in a lot of work on his game and seems dedicated, I like that. He seems easy to root for at the end of the day. Unlike Lamelo, who I simply do not and probably never will like.

fair, I think having a father who played professionally probably really helped Killian. Same way RJ speaks about his father being so influencial. Not saying that is a requirement of being a good player because its not but having that knowledge and experience on what type of hard work its takes to play at that level...RJ and Killian seem to have great work ethics and when you attached that with talent you have a god chance to get a good young player.

Would be a nice young back court to build around with RJ and Killian. I still would rather RJ play SF and get a knock down shooter to play SG for us but doesn't seem like the Knicks are interested in playing him at SF full time but we'll see what our next HC thinks whoever that may be.

TheGreenArrow · Post #618 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 9:17 pm

As much as I love lamelo I may just put Edwards #1 on my board.

Edwards,rj and Mitch going forward with thibs as hc would be really special foundation going forward.

Dude is just special man and I think thibs can guide him to reach his potential.

HarthorneWingo · Post #619 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 9:23 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:As much as I love lamelo I may just put Edwards #1 on my board.

Edwards,rj and Mitch going forward with thibs as hc would be really special foundation going forward.

Dude is just special man and I think thibs can guide him to reach his potential.

But we're never even going to get to sniff Edwards.

newyorker4ever · Post #620 » by **newyorker4ever** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 9:24 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
blueNorange wrote:officially on the hayes gravy train and just hope he discovers that he can dribble going right.

That will make two starters who you are hoping can learn how to go right and they are now in the NBA. This isn't college. I'd rather have someone, yes, like Haliburton, who can step in and at least give us a little of everything along with a lot of flexibility.

Are we going to at least have some semblance of a NBA draft combine or individual workouts to test these guys? I'm not saying your wrong about Hayes but all of these guys seems to missing something at least at this young age, which makes it very difficult to prognosticate their future NBA careers.

I'm a Hali fan and don't mind that he doesn't seem to be great at any one thing because he's good at many things. I'd have no issue with the Knicks drafting him with our lottery pick but think they should definitely grab a T.Jones, T.Terry, T.Maledon, N.Mannion or another PG with one of the other picks since Hali might end up a better fit for SG over PG at the NBA level, but we won't know that for sure until we get to see him play in the NBA. As of now i do think he can be a starting PG in the NBA but i know some aren't so sure so just to be safe we should grab one of those PG's i mentioned.