2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[JayTWill]

I still think a deal revolving around Deni Avdija in Washington for Quickley makes sense. IQ's role, impact and ceiling is limited with the current roster's construction. To maximize his role he probably needs to be used as a scoring "point" guard with a much better facilitator at another position. Brunson is blocking him from having that role for 35 minutes a game while we don't have great facilitators at other positions. So unless the front office plans on moving Brunson it makes sense to move the Quickley to fill other holes in the roster. We would be losing his scoring punch for 12-13 minutes a game, maybe less in the playoffs in his shared role with Barrett in the bench unit but bringing in Avdija would balance out the roster so much better.

Avdija shooting percentages are up across the board. He is currently shooting 41% from 3 with a 61.7% TS. He is probably benefiting from the lack of effort opposing teams are giving against the Wizards for most of the game but he also has to deal with the lack of talent on the roster and Poole's terrible play to start the season. If given the shots available to Hart I don't think he would see much drop in his percentages if any. Deni would bring more of a connector and facilitator to the team while pushing everyone down to their more natural positions. We would stop seeing these terrible lineups with Hart at the 4 or Grimes or DDV at the 3 with our small back court. It would also hopefully take some of the wear and tear off RJ's knees not forcing him to play the 4 and maybe take some of that weight off that he has been adding. Another added benefit is that he provides another defender. Asking Grimes to defend everyone from Lillard to Edwards to Tatum as if he is some freakishly athletic and strong 6'8 wing with a 7'3 wingspan is crazy. He is a 6'4 -6'5 guard with ok athleticism. He has to work incredibly hard trying to defend the opposing teams best perimeter player but then we seem to be shocked when he does not do more offensively. Deni provides someone to take some of that load off while also adding someone that will move the ball more and creates more shooting opportunities for Grimes.

IQ gets to start in DC, gets a bigger role and gets to be around his family. I think he has the potential to be a top 3 option on a contending team unfortunately that opportunity may never be provided here. He deserves the chance to see what he can do in a bigger role. If he blossoms in that role the Knicks may actually have a chance of getting that protected Wizards pick in the back end of the lottery or mid first round which seems highly unlikely with their current roster. If not then we have just traded one quality bench player for another quality bench player in Deni that fits our needs more and will actually be paid like a quality bench player while also being the youngest player on the team. IQ is a much more dynamic scorer but I think Deni would make us a better team.

[sol537]

I still think a deal revolving around Deni Avdija in Washington for Quickley makes sense. IQ's role, impact and ceiling is limited with the current roster's construction. To maximize his role he probably needs to be used as a scoring "point" guard with a much better facilitator at another position. Brunson is blocking him from having that role for 35 minutes a game while we don't have great facilitators at other positions. So unless the front office plans on moving Brunson it makes sense to move the Quickley to fill other holes in the roster. We would be losing his scoring punch for 12-13 minutes a game, maybe less in the playoffs in his shared role with Barrett in the bench unit but bringing in Avdija would balance out the roster so much better.

Avdija shooting percentages are up across the board. He is currently shooting 41% from 3 with a 61.7% TS. He is probably benefiting from the lack of effort opposing teams are giving against the Wizards for most of the game but he also has to deal with the lack of talent on the roster and Poole's terrible play to start the season. If given the shots available to Hart I don't think he would see much drop in his percentages if any. Deni would bring more of a connector and facilitator to the team while pushing everyone down to their more natural positions. We would stop seeing these terrible lineups with Hart at the 4 or Grimes or DDV at the 3 with our small back court. It would also hopefully take some of the wear and tear off RJ's knees not forcing him to play the 4 and maybe take some of that weight off that he has been adding. Another added benefit is that he provides another defender. Asking Grimes to defend everyone from Lillard to Edwards to Tatum as if he is some freakishly athletic and strong 6'8 wing with a 7'3 wingspan is crazy. He is a 6'4 -6'5 guard with ok athleticism. He has to work incredibly hard trying to defend the opposing teams best perimeter player but then we seem to be shocked when he does not do more offensively. Deni provides someone to take some of that load off while also adding someone that will move the ball more and creates more shooting opportunities for Grimes.

IQ gets to start in DC, gets a bigger role and gets to be around his family. I think he has the potential to be a top 3 option on a contending team unfortunately that opportunity may never be provided here. He deserves the chance to see what he can do in a bigger role. If he blossoms in that role the Knicks may actually have a chance of getting that protected Wizards pick in the back end of the lottery or mid first round which seems highly unlikely with their current roster. If not then we have just traded one quality bench player for another quality bench player in Deni that fits our needs more and will actually be paid like a quality bench player while also being the youngest player on the team. IQ is a much more dynamic scorer but I think Deni would make us a better team.

At first, I thought you were undervaluing IQ with such a trade offer but after I dug deeper, this actually makes a ton of sense for NYK, potentially. We may have to ask for two 2nds as sweeteners since it's Washington after all. Avdija has improved his shooting this season by quite a bit and his defense is already solid. He could play the SF or PF positions. The question is can his shooting %'s so far this season be sustainable over his career? A straight 1:1 swap of IQ and Avdija works at the deadline salary-wise and Deni would be averaging about $15m yearly for the next 4 years... not bad compared to the $24m or so IQ seems to be seeking.

I would go one further and move Randle to ORL (or in a 3-way with ORL and the Hornets) to get Isaac and salary filler back. Randle + IQ out and Deni + Isaac in results in a better balanced team, more defense, and an improved salary cap situation.

[JayTWill]

At first, I thought you were undervaluing IQ with such a trade offer but after I dug deeper, this actually makes a ton of sense for NYK, potentially. We may have to ask for two 2nds as sweeteners since it's Washington after all. Avdija has improved his shooting this season by quite a bit and his defense is already solid. He could play the SF or PF positions. The question is can his shooting %'s so far this season be sustainable over his career? A straight 1:1 swap of IQ and Avdija works at the deadline salary-wise and Deni would be averaging about $15m yearly for the next 4 years... not bad compared to the $24m or so IQ seems to be seeking.

I would go one further and move Randle to ORL (or in a 3-way with ORL and the Hornets) to get Isaac and salary filler back. Randle + IQ out and Deni + Isaac in results in a better balanced team, more defense, and an improved salary cap situation.

I have been paying attention to the Wizards team for the first month or so watching Deni and Bilal's development and out of curiosity of how Poole and Jones would look in a bigger role. Deni's seems to have added more arc to his shot and a more consistent motion. He still releases the ball a little too far in front of his body for my liking and may struggle shooting consistently under pressure but I think he could maintain his percentages given the open looks the offense generates especially the shots Hart is either missing or completely turning down far too often.

And yeah, I like the flexibility it gives the team for future trades. I'm not a big fan of these Mitchell and Towns trade scenarios being posted but having Avdija gives the Knicks the opportunity to move different players without having a huge gaping hole at the 3 or 4. For the people that want to trade Randle+ for Towns, ignoring the possible awkward fit of the 2 center lineups, Avdija would give you someone to play the 4 without have the same problems we have now of a bunch of small player out of position at the 3 and 4. The Wolves are not going to just throw in Reid to help balance out our lineup. For the people that want to trade for Mitchell, if RJ's jump seems legit the Cavs will probably request him as the centerpiece of the trade and not just our small guards to pair with Garland. Deni could slide into 3 spot. Personally I would not do either trade for financial reasons or the fit but Deni does provide more flexibilty in our lineups and trade options.

[HarthorneWingo]

I still think a deal revolving around Deni Avdija in Washington for Quickley makes sense. IQ's role, impact and ceiling is limited with the current roster's construction. To maximize his role he probably needs to be used as a scoring "point" guard with a much better facilitator at another position. Brunson is blocking him from having that role for 35 minutes a game while we don't have great facilitators at other positions. So unless the front office plans on moving Brunson it makes sense to move the Quickley to fill other holes in the roster. We would be losing his scoring punch for 12-13 minutes a game, maybe less in the playoffs in his shared role with Barrett in the bench unit but bringing in Avdija would balance out the roster so much better.

Avdija shooting percentages are up across the board. He is currently shooting 41% from 3 with a 61.7% TS. He is probably benefiting from the lack of effort opposing teams are giving against the Wizards for most of the game but he also has to deal with the lack of talent on the roster and Poole's terrible play to start the season. If given the shots available to Hart I don't think he would see much drop in his percentages if any. Deni would bring more of a connector and facilitator to the team while pushing everyone down to their more natural positions. We would stop seeing these terrible lineups with Hart at the 4 or Grimes or DDV at the 3 with our small back court. It would also hopefully take some of the wear and tear off RJ's knees not forcing him to play the 4 and maybe take some of that weight off that he has been adding. Another added benefit is that he provides another defender. Asking Grimes to defend everyone from Lillard to Edwards to Tatum as if he is some freakishly athletic and strong 6'8 wing with a 7'3 wingspan is crazy. He is a 6'4 -6'5 guard with ok athleticism. He has to work incredibly hard trying to defend the opposing teams best perimeter player but then we seem to be shocked when he does not do more offensively. Deni provides someone to take some of that load off while also adding someone that will move the ball more and creates more shooting opportunities for Grimes.

IQ gets to start in DC, gets a bigger role and gets to be around his family. I think he has the potential to be a top 3 option on a contending team unfortunately that opportunity may never be provided here. He deserves the chance to see what he can do in a bigger role. If he blossoms in that role the Knicks may actually have a chance of getting that protected Wizards pick in the back end of the lottery or mid first round which seems highly unlikely with their current roster. If not then we have just traded one quality bench player for another quality bench player in Deni that fits our needs more and will actually be paid like a quality bench player while also being the youngest player on the team. IQ is a much more dynamic scorer but I think Deni would make us a better team.

At first, I thought you were undervaluing IQ with such a trade offer but after I dug deeper, this actually makes a ton of sense for NYK, potentially. We may have to ask for two 2nds as sweeteners since it's Washington after all. Avdija has improved his shooting this season by quite a bit and his defense is already solid. He could play the SF or PF positions. The question is can his shooting %'s so far this season be sustainable over his career? A straight 1:1 swap of IQ and Avdija works at the deadline salary-wise and Deni would be averaging about $15m yearly for the next 4 years... not bad compared to the $24m or so IQ seems to be seeking.

I would go one further and move Randle to ORL (or in a 3-way with ORL and the Hornets) to get Isaac and salary filler back. Randle + IQ out and Deni + Isaac in results in a better balanced team, more defense, and an improved salary cap situation.

Isaac? Have you been watching him this season?

[sol537]

I still think a deal revolving around Deni Avdija in Washington for Quickley makes sense. IQ's role, impact and ceiling is limited with the current roster's construction. To maximize his role he probably needs to be used as a scoring "point" guard with a much better facilitator at another position. Brunson is blocking him from having that role for 35 minutes a game while we don't have great facilitators at other positions. So unless the front office plans on moving Brunson it makes sense to move the Quickley to fill other holes in the roster. We would be losing his scoring punch for 12-13 minutes a game, maybe less in the playoffs in his shared role with Barrett in the bench unit but bringing in Avdija would balance out the roster so much better.

Avdija shooting percentages are up across the board. He is currently shooting 41% from 3 with a 61.7% TS. He is probably benefiting from the lack of effort opposing teams are giving against the Wizards for most of the game but he also has to deal with the lack of talent on the roster and Poole's terrible play to start the season. If given the shots available to Hart I don't think he would see much drop in his percentages if any. Deni would bring more of a connector and facilitator to the team while pushing everyone down to their more natural positions. We would stop seeing these terrible lineups with Hart at the 4 or Grimes or DDV at the 3 with our small back court. It would also hopefully take some of the wear and tear off RJ's knees not forcing him to play the 4 and maybe take some of that weight off that he has been adding. Another added benefit is that he provides another defender. Asking Grimes to defend everyone from Lillard to Edwards to Tatum as if he is some freakishly athletic and strong 6'8 wing with a 7'3 wingspan is crazy. He is a 6'4 -6'5 guard with ok athleticism. He has to work incredibly hard trying to defend the opposing teams best perimeter player but then we seem to be shocked when he does not do more offensively. Deni provides someone to take some of that load off while also adding someone that will move the ball more and creates more shooting opportunities for Grimes.

IQ gets to start in DC, gets a bigger role and gets to be around his family. I think he has the potential to be a top 3 option on a contending team unfortunately that opportunity may never be provided here. He deserves the chance to see what he can do in a bigger role. If he blossoms in that role the Knicks may actually have a chance of getting that protected Wizards pick in the back end of the lottery or mid first round which seems highly unlikely with their current roster. If not then we have just traded one quality bench player for another quality bench player in Deni that fits our needs more and will actually be paid like a quality bench player while also being the youngest player on the team. IQ is a much more dynamic scorer but I think Deni would make us a better team.

At first, I thought you were undervaluing IQ with such a trade offer but after I dug deeper, this actually makes a ton of sense for NYK, potentially. We may have to ask for two 2nds as sweeteners since it's Washington after all. Avdija has improved his shooting this season by quite a bit and his defense is already solid. He could play the SF or PF positions. The question is can his shooting %'s so far this season be sustainable over his career? A straight 1:1 swap of IQ and Avdija works at the deadline salary-wise and Deni would be averaging about $15m yearly for the next 4 years... not bad compared to the $24m or so IQ seems to be seeking.

I would go one further and move Randle to ORL (or in a 3-way with ORL and the Hornets) to get Isaac and salary filler back. Randle + IQ out and Deni + Isaac in results in a better balanced team, more defense, and an improved salary cap situation.

Isaac? Have you been watching him this season?

I have not... but I have been watching Randle It's more of a salary dump and kicking the tires on a young (albeit injury-prone) player who could potentially be a DPOY type player and who has no role in Orlando's new team.

[ctorres]

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[TGW]

The wizards wouldn’t move Avdija for Quickley. If anything, they make Quickley an offer after the season if they wanted him. Makes no sense to trade a young, cost-controlled player for a player that is going to demand big bucks in free agency.

[nykballa2k4]

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Dude looks like middle aged De niro in that pic.

Yeah, lets bring our boy back. Also should re-sign Will Chandler for lols

[thebuzzardman]

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$6,802,950

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/contracts/

Windler, Achie, Sims and a 2nd rounder?

I don't think there's a match.

Or Fournier and Knicks have to take back another player

[nykballa2k4]

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$6,802,950

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Windler, Achie, Sims and a 2nd rounder?

I don't think there's a match.

Or Fournier and Knicks have to take back another player

He fits neatly into our TPE from Obi.

[thebuzzardman]

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$6,802,950

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Windler, Achie, Sims and a 2nd rounder?

I don't think there's a match.

Or Fournier and Knicks have to take back another player

He fits neatly into our TPE from Obi.

Keep forgetting about that

[Jeffrey]

Y'all can forget about Siakam, OG or any other Raptors...

[WargamesX]

I wonder if the Knicks could grab De’andre Hunter. I think he’s a bad fit for a starter but he might fir as the combo forward behind Randle and Barrett.

[aggo]

Go get kat

[KnixinSix]

Go get kat

If Wolves were playing like last season, I would think KAT would be super available. However with the way they are playing right now, they may try to ride it out until the offseason. After that though, financially I just don't see how they can keep his contract considering the impact of the new CBA and their other high salary players.

The guy right now that is 'super' available is LaVine. And I definitely think he upgrades the lineup even if he costs IQ. Divincenzo, Grimes and Hart all can play high level D at the 2 guard which would compensate for the loss of Quickley on the defensive end while LaVines dynamic scoring ability takes the need to rely on Randle down another notch and gives us 3 bonafide scorers in Brunson, RJ and LaVine with Randle as #4.

Lavine's FG% last 3 years was .507, .485 and .467 and around 39% from 3. Elite/borderline elite number for the 2 position.

Or rather than trade IQ perhaps something like Randle and Grimes and 1-2FRPs for Pat Williams and LaVine.

Mitchell
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

https://www.reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/15nz2ih/patrick_williams_is_the_nbas_most_underrated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[sol537]

I wonder if the Knicks could grab De’andre Hunter. I think he’s a bad fit for a starter but he might fir as the combo forward behind Randle and Barrett.

Murray + Hunter for Randle + IQ + filler

Murray hasn't worked out for ATL next to Trae but maybe he'd fair better in NY and Randle typically kills Atlanta so they may like having him and Trae as their 1-2 combo. Two "treadmill" teams trying to find better fits with a pretty comparable talent swap.

Mitch / Hunter / RJ / Murray / Brunson
Bench: iHart / Hart / Grimes / DDV

[WargamesX]

I wonder if the Knicks could grab De’andre Hunter. I think he’s a bad fit for a starter but he might fir as the combo forward behind Randle and Barrett.

Murray + Hunter for Randle + IQ + filler

Murray hasn't worked out for ATL next to Trae but maybe he'd fair better in NY and Randle typically kills Atlanta so they may like having him and Trae as their 1-2 combo. Two "treadmill" teams trying to find better fits with a pretty comparable talent swap.

Mitch / Hunter / RJ / Murray / Brunson
Bench: iHart / Hart / Grimes / DDV

I think that is too big of a trade for what the Knicks should be aiming for in getting Hunter. I don’t like the idea of him as a starter for the Knicks, but he would be a decent bench piece that could fix the hole on the roster that keeps being exploited. He Knicks can use some size on the wing and Hunter can do that.

The Hawks are a weirdly built team and I do think Murray is about to be shipped out, but I think they want to do it for Siakim. Bogdan is good enough to be their starting SG, Siddiq & Jalen can play SF, Siakim at PF fixes their team and they got Clint at center. If they want Siakim though they are going to have to pay Masai a premium and I think they would do the trade to have more draft assets to throw at Toronto.

So

Fournier + plus Mavs 2024 and Bucks 2025 would be a good deal. Not likely to be high level picks, and also picks the Knicks are probably not going to use to draft with anyway…..

Hawks would have 3 draft picks this year to offer in a Siakim trade, plus that Bucks pick next year for Siakim. Meanwhile Knicks get another bench player that could start on other teams to add to their depth.

Brunson/IQ
Grimes/DDV
RJ/Hart
Randle/Hunter
Mitch/IHart

[DaGawd]

i think a deal centered around randle for josh giddey is ideal for both teams..

sga
dort
williams
randle
chet

brunson
barrett
giddey
gallo (off waivers)
robinson

[HarthorneWingo]

i think a deal centered around randle for josh giddey is ideal for both teams..

sga
dort
williams
randle
chet

brunson
barrett
giddey
gallo (off waivers)
robinson

You thought you were gonna slip that by us? Plus, I'm not feeling RJ at the 2. I do like Giddy though. I'm just not sure he's a fit on this team.

[DaGawd]

i think a deal centered around randle for josh giddey is ideal for both teams..

sga
dort
williams
randle
chet

brunson
barrett
giddey
gallo (off waivers)
robinson

You thought you were gonna slip that by us? Plus, I'm not feeling RJ at the 2. I do like Giddy though. I'm just not sure he's a fit on this team.

i hear you about the fit might not being the best for us, i’m just trying to figure out a trade that brings the knicks a possible young breakout star candidate similar to how indy got haliburton