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NY Yankees 2025 Season Thread (Hal is cheap, Brian is dumb)

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Re: NY Yankees 2025 Season Thread (Hal is cheap, Brian is dumb) 

Post#601 » by Papi_swav » Wed May 28, 2025 1:47 am

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KnicksGadfly wrote:Just needed to put this out there.

Volpe: 1.9 WAR
Soto: 1.6 WAR

But yea...Volpe has taken a little leap. Average is virtually the same but he's getting more walks and hitting for more power. He's also been pretty durable.


Volpe isn't Bobby Witt Jr but he's doing his job.


I'd argue that those results are really good, beyond just doing his job. 1.9 a third of the way through the season gets him close to 6, if he keeps it up.

For context, Elly De La Cruz was at 5.2 WAR last year, Vlad was at 6.1. Betts 4.8. He might tail off cause Volpe can be streaky, but I'll take it.

this is why I said I am ok with Volpe as our starting SS for now when everyone was s***ing on him earlier in the season. Alot of his WAR is because he's one of the best fielding short stops in the game, which is super important at that position. As long as he can be average on offense, anything more is a plus. He's also super young and super cheap, and more room for improvement.

Wells is slacking now but has 31 RBIs, but same with him, he plays a premium position where defense is more important than offense. But either way he has to step that .204 batting average up to at least .230
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Post#602 » by knicks94 » Wed May 28, 2025 2:57 pm

Just like Mets fans are allowed to boo Juan Soto for not playing like the generational talent they thought they were getting, Yankee fans should be more than entitled to vent out their displeasure at Anthony Volpe for not being the best Yankee shortstop prospect since Derek Jeter. Enough of this "he's a great fielder" crap. Josh Donaldson was a gold glove defensive player while he was in pinstripes yet he was one of Cashman's worst acquisitions.Seriously, would you have traded Jeter back in the day for Rey Ordonez because the latter had a superior glove? Good defensive middle infielders are a dime a dozen, good hitting ones are not.

This is Volpe's 3rd season playing big league baseball, how much more time shall we give this guy a free pass? As a hitter you either have it or you don't. We are not talking about a pitching prospect here who needs at least 5 or 6 years of ML experience to develop into a top of the rotation ace. Why can guys like Ronald Acuna Jr, Francisco Lindor, Carlos Correa and Mookie Betts have such an immediate impact as soon as they get called up, but with Volpe the excue is "he's still young"? The guy is 24 years old, not some 19 year old kid out of high school, Jeter at 24 was already an established veteran.

Let's put an end to these excuses once and for all. And let us conclude that Anthony Volpe was overhyped and overrated by Cashman and the Yankees brass because they wanted to gaslight fans into believing that signing Correa or Machado was the wrong move at the time.
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Post#603 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed May 28, 2025 5:46 pm

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Re: NY Yankees 2025 Season Thread (Hal is cheap, Brian is dumb) 

Post#604 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed May 28, 2025 5:53 pm

knicks94 wrote:Just like Mets fans are allowed to boo Juan Soto for not playing like the generational talent they thought they were getting, Yankee fans should be more than entitled to vent out their displeasure at Anthony Volpe for not being the best Yankee shortstop prospect since Derek Jeter. Enough of this "he's a great fielder" crap. Josh Donaldson was a gold glove defensive player while he was in pinstripes yet he was one of Cashman's worst acquisitions.Seriously, would you have traded Jeter back in the day for Rey Ordonez because the latter had a superior glove? Good defensive middle infielders are a dime a dozen, good hitting ones are not.

This is Volpe's 3rd season playing big league baseball, how much more time shall we give this guy a free pass? As a hitter you either have it or you don't. We are not talking about a pitching prospect here who needs at least 5 or 6 years of ML experience to develop into a top of the rotation ace. Why can guys like Ronald Acuna Jr, Francisco Lindor, Carlos Correa and Mookie Betts have such an immediate impact as soon as they get called up, but with Volpe the excue is "he's still young"? The guy is 24 years old, not some 19 year old kid out of high school, Jeter at 24 was already an established veteran.

Let's put an end to these excuses once and for all. And let us conclude that Anthony Volpe was overhyped and overrated by Cashman and the Yankees brass because they wanted to gaslight fans into believing that signing Correa or Machado was the wrong move at the time.


I think we should separate out Volpe from the situation with Hal and Cashman being cheap. I still hate those two for being cheapasses, but that shouldn't take away from what Volpe has been doing this year.

He's actually been good. I don't think he's going to be generational, but he might very well be the best Yankees shortstop since Jeter...but that might not be too hard to do. Still, with the value he's giving us, it's really good. The numbers aren't lying. He's upping his power these recent games and he's on a minimum contract.

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Anyway, the fact that Volpe is doing well on this minimum contract should not be used as an excuse not to spend. It means more money should be allocated elsewhere. With your example about Machado, for example, we know Machado eventually moved to third. So yea...a few points for me:

1) Volpe has been quietly improving and has become a positive impactful player for us this season
2) He's on a cheap contract, which should theoretically allow us to spend elsewhere, but we know Hal will use it as an excuse not to spend
3) His success or failure should not have stopped the Yankees from spending, considering the hole we have at 3B.
4) Place the blame on Hal and Cashman, where it belongs
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Re: NY Yankees 2025 Season Thread (Hal is cheap, Brian is dumb) 

Post#605 » by Papi_swav » Thu May 29, 2025 12:23 am

knicks94 wrote:Just like Mets fans are allowed to boo Juan Soto for not playing like the generational talent they thought they were getting, Yankee fans should be more than entitled to vent out their displeasure at Anthony Volpe for not being the best Yankee shortstop prospect since Derek Jeter. Enough of this "he's a great fielder" crap. Josh Donaldson was a gold glove defensive player while he was in pinstripes yet he was one of Cashman's worst acquisitions.Seriously, would you have traded Jeter back in the day for Rey Ordonez because the latter had a superior glove? Good defensive middle infielders are a dime a dozen, good hitting ones are not.

This is Volpe's 3rd season playing big league baseball, how much more time shall we give this guy a free pass? As a hitter you either have it or you don't. We are not talking about a pitching prospect here who needs at least 5 or 6 years of ML experience to develop into a top of the rotation ace. Why can guys like Ronald Acuna Jr, Francisco Lindor, Carlos Correa and Mookie Betts have such an immediate impact as soon as they get called up, but with Volpe the excue is "he's still young"? The guy is 24 years old, not some 19 year old kid out of high school, Jeter at 24 was already an established veteran.

Let's put an end to these excuses once and for all. And let us conclude that Anthony Volpe was overhyped and overrated by Cashman and the Yankees brass because they wanted to gaslight fans into believing that signing Correa or Machado was the wrong move at the time.

No bro, I think you need to relax a little. How can you expect any player to be the next Jeter? like come on bro, that is ridiculous pressure to put on any player. Jeter had over 3,400 hits !! those type of guys don't fall off from a tree, that is an elite exceptional talent and if you look around the MLB, what short stop is even close to a Jeter like player>? Lindor is a hall of fame talent but even he doesn't get on base or hit a batting average of .320 like Jeter consistently did. The Jeter comparisons for Volpe were just antsy Yankee fans that overrate all of their prospects and then starts hating their own players because they're not HOF talents.

Volpe is doing just fine, a gold glove short stop that is an average hitter with room for improvement, and he's playing very well this year. 31 RBIs and a 1.9 WAR which is like top 30 in the league. If he was making 50 million a season like Soto, then yes you have every right to boo and crap on him, but this kid is literally making minimum wage in the MLB level. You bring up Correa like he's been some elite player since he left the Astros, dude is always hurt.

If you know major league baseball like I do, then you'll know that some guys don't even put it together until they are in their 30s! Look at Weaver, he bounced around a bunch of teams until he came here and became elite. Look at Cruz, dude is like 34 years old and he's just now being taken serious. You know how many guys were scrubs and then out of nowhere had elite seasons at age 32 etc.. this is major league baseball, not the NFL or NBA, guys here have long careers and sometimes it takes longer for other players to get it right. You can't expect every prospect to become a major leaguer at 19-20 years old like Soto or Arod. Some guys don't become legit major leaguers until they are 30 years old Facts.

Volpe is far from the problem here, you just had unreasonable amount of expectations for him just like every Yankee fan does for their players. If he was getting 20 million plus a year then yes I understand, but dude is still a baby and he's been improving every season, we should be applauding him not crapping on him. If we have a chance to upgrade, then yes you do it but we can't just get every elite player we want when we want. Sometimes we have to give kids the room to grow, not every player coming out the minors is going to be elite and sometimes it takes some guys longer than others to develop. Watch guys start crapping on Dominguez soon if he doesn't hit 30 home runs and 100 RBIs, I guarantee it.
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Re: NY Yankees 2025 Season Thread (Hal is cheap, Brian is dumb) 

Post#606 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu May 29, 2025 1:08 am

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knicks94 wrote:Just like Mets fans are allowed to boo Juan Soto for not playing like the generational talent they thought they were getting, Yankee fans should be more than entitled to vent out their displeasure at Anthony Volpe for not being the best Yankee shortstop prospect since Derek Jeter. Enough of this "he's a great fielder" crap. Josh Donaldson was a gold glove defensive player while he was in pinstripes yet he was one of Cashman's worst acquisitions.Seriously, would you have traded Jeter back in the day for Rey Ordonez because the latter had a superior glove? Good defensive middle infielders are a dime a dozen, good hitting ones are not.

This is Volpe's 3rd season playing big league baseball, how much more time shall we give this guy a free pass? As a hitter you either have it or you don't. We are not talking about a pitching prospect here who needs at least 5 or 6 years of ML experience to develop into a top of the rotation ace. Why can guys like Ronald Acuna Jr, Francisco Lindor, Carlos Correa and Mookie Betts have such an immediate impact as soon as they get called up, but with Volpe the excue is "he's still young"? The guy is 24 years old, not some 19 year old kid out of high school, Jeter at 24 was already an established veteran.

Let's put an end to these excuses once and for all. And let us conclude that Anthony Volpe was overhyped and overrated by Cashman and the Yankees brass because they wanted to gaslight fans into believing that signing Correa or Machado was the wrong move at the time.

No bro, I think you need to relax a little. How can you expect any player to be the next Jeter? like come on bro, that is ridiculous pressure to put on any player. Jeter had over 3,400 hits !! those type of guys don't fall off from a tree, that is an elite exceptional talent and if you look around the MLB, what short stop is even close to a Jeter like player>? Lindor is a hall of fame talent but even he doesn't get on base or hit a batting average of .320 like Jeter consistently did. The Jeter comparisons for Volpe were just antsy Yankee fans that overrate all of their prospects and then starts hating their own players because they're not HOF talents.

Volpe is doing just fine, a gold glove short stop that is an average hitter with room for improvement, and he's playing very well this year. 31 RBIs and a 1.9 WAR which is like top 30 in the league. If he was making 50 million a season like Soto, then yes you have every right to boo and crap on him, but this kid is literally making minimum wage in the MLB level. You bring up Correa like he's been some elite player since he left the Astros, dude is always hurt.

If you know major league baseball like I do, then you'll know that some guys don't even put it together until they are in their 30s! Look at Weaver, he bounced around a bunch of teams until he came here and became elite. Look at Cruz, dude is like 34 years old and he's just now being taken serious. You know how many guys were scrubs and then out of nowhere had elite seasons at age 32 etc.. this is major league baseball, not the NFL or NBA, guys here have long careers and sometimes it takes longer for other players to get it right. You can't expect every prospect to become a major leaguer at 19-20 years old like Soto or Arod. Some guys don't become legit major leaguers until they are 30 years old Facts.

Volpe is far from the problem here, you just had unreasonable amount of expectations for him just like every Yankee fan does for their players. If he was getting 20 million plus a year then yes I understand, but dude is still a baby and he's been improving every season, we should be applauding him not crapping on him. If we have a chance to upgrade, then yes you do it but we can't just get every elite player we want when we want. Sometimes we have to give kids the room to grow, not every player coming out the minors is going to be elite and sometimes it takes some guys longer than others to develop. Watch guys start crapping on Dominguez soon if he doesn't hit 30 home runs and 100 RBIs, I guarantee it.


I think sites calculate WAR differently, but it's generally a good statistic to evaluate players because I think you can tie free agent contracts to WAR projections.

Anyway, I think the price so far is 8 million per WAR. That's also basically why we see these long ass contracts for free agents. We all know those contracts are going to end badly, but no one wants to go into the luxury tax by paying Aaron Judge 80 million a year for his current 10 WAR seasons, so teams basically give out these long contracts to get a discount on players in their primes.

Just wanted to bring it up because you can kind of evaluate Volpe's value somewhat when we talk about him being a 1.9 WAR player a third of the way through this season.
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Post#607 » by iLLSonChandla » Thu May 29, 2025 1:24 am

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Post#608 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu May 29, 2025 1:58 am

It always always always pisses me off that DJLM will swing at the first pitch he sees.

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Post#609 » by knicks94 » Thu May 29, 2025 2:41 pm

If the Twins GM were smart he'd make a run for Kikuchi and Eovaldi. I believe that the only way Minnesota would end their playoff drought against the Yankees is if they threw those two at us in a short 5 game series.
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Post#610 » by bishnykfan » Thu May 29, 2025 10:05 pm

Aaron Judge can go 0 for his next 154 and still have a higher batting average than Juan Soto...
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Post#611 » by Papi_swav » Thu May 29, 2025 10:59 pm

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knicks94 wrote:Just like Mets fans are allowed to boo Juan Soto for not playing like the generational talent they thought they were getting, Yankee fans should be more than entitled to vent out their displeasure at Anthony Volpe for not being the best Yankee shortstop prospect since Derek Jeter. Enough of this "he's a great fielder" crap. Josh Donaldson was a gold glove defensive player while he was in pinstripes yet he was one of Cashman's worst acquisitions.Seriously, would you have traded Jeter back in the day for Rey Ordonez because the latter had a superior glove? Good defensive middle infielders are a dime a dozen, good hitting ones are not.

This is Volpe's 3rd season playing big league baseball, how much more time shall we give this guy a free pass? As a hitter you either have it or you don't. We are not talking about a pitching prospect here who needs at least 5 or 6 years of ML experience to develop into a top of the rotation ace. Why can guys like Ronald Acuna Jr, Francisco Lindor, Carlos Correa and Mookie Betts have such an immediate impact as soon as they get called up, but with Volpe the excue is "he's still young"? The guy is 24 years old, not some 19 year old kid out of high school, Jeter at 24 was already an established veteran.

Let's put an end to these excuses once and for all. And let us conclude that Anthony Volpe was overhyped and overrated by Cashman and the Yankees brass because they wanted to gaslight fans into believing that signing Correa or Machado was the wrong move at the time.

No bro, I think you need to relax a little. How can you expect any player to be the next Jeter? like come on bro, that is ridiculous pressure to put on any player. Jeter had over 3,400 hits !! those type of guys don't fall off from a tree, that is an elite exceptional talent and if you look around the MLB, what short stop is even close to a Jeter like player>? Lindor is a hall of fame talent but even he doesn't get on base or hit a batting average of .320 like Jeter consistently did. The Jeter comparisons for Volpe were just antsy Yankee fans that overrate all of their prospects and then starts hating their own players because they're not HOF talents.

Volpe is doing just fine, a gold glove short stop that is an average hitter with room for improvement, and he's playing very well this year. 31 RBIs and a 1.9 WAR which is like top 30 in the league. If he was making 50 million a season like Soto, then yes you have every right to boo and crap on him, but this kid is literally making minimum wage in the MLB level. You bring up Correa like he's been some elite player since he left the Astros, dude is always hurt.

If you know major league baseball like I do, then you'll know that some guys don't even put it together until they are in their 30s! Look at Weaver, he bounced around a bunch of teams until he came here and became elite. Look at Cruz, dude is like 34 years old and he's just now being taken serious. You know how many guys were scrubs and then out of nowhere had elite seasons at age 32 etc.. this is major league baseball, not the NFL or NBA, guys here have long careers and sometimes it takes longer for other players to get it right. You can't expect every prospect to become a major leaguer at 19-20 years old like Soto or Arod. Some guys don't become legit major leaguers until they are 30 years old Facts.

Volpe is far from the problem here, you just had unreasonable amount of expectations for him just like every Yankee fan does for their players. If he was getting 20 million plus a year then yes I understand, but dude is still a baby and he's been improving every season, we should be applauding him not crapping on him. If we have a chance to upgrade, then yes you do it but we can't just get every elite player we want when we want. Sometimes we have to give kids the room to grow, not every player coming out the minors is going to be elite and sometimes it takes some guys longer than others to develop. Watch guys start crapping on Dominguez soon if he doesn't hit 30 home runs and 100 RBIs, I guarantee it.


I think sites calculate WAR differently, but it's generally a good statistic to evaluate players because I think you can tie free agent contracts to WAR projections.

Anyway, I think the price so far is 8 million per WAR. That's also basically why we see these long ass contracts for free agents. We all know those contracts are going to end badly, but no one wants to go into the luxury tax by paying Aaron Judge 80 million a year for his current 10 WAR seasons, so teams basically give out these long contracts to get a discount on players in their primes.

Just wanted to bring it up because you can kind of evaluate Volpe's value somewhat when we talk about him being a 1.9 WAR player a third of the way through this season.

I believe its 5-6 million per WAR. But either way Volpe is surpassing his worth right now. And he just won us the game yesterday too BTW
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Post#612 » by MrDollarBills » Fri May 30, 2025 6:19 pm

We need to tear the Dodgers apart tonight. F*ck these clowns
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Post#613 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri May 30, 2025 8:31 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:We need to tear the Dodgers apart tonight. F*ck these clowns


This 10 pm start time is the worst
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Post#614 » by MrDollarBills » Fri May 30, 2025 8:40 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:We need to tear the Dodgers apart tonight. F*ck these clowns


This 10 pm start time is the worst


Wait, I forgot that it's in LA.

Hm. Well. I might be indisposed.
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Post#615 » by blue and orange » Fri May 30, 2025 9:51 pm

Have that stupid rf wall where Judge got hurt so gotta be smart no one try to be a hero, if you can't get the ball you can't get it it's ok, it's a regular season game and not the World Series. Having said all that it would damn nice to rip the Dodgers apart.

Tomorrow night got a 715 start time, and obviously game 6 at 8. I'll gladly miss out on the TNT pregame, Knicks are the priority watch of course, will be following the Yanks on my phone.
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Post#616 » by blue and orange » Fri May 30, 2025 9:53 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:We need to tear the Dodgers apart tonight. F*ck these clowns


This 10 pm start time is the worst


Apple TV only correct, what a joke.
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Post#617 » by blue and orange » Sat May 31, 2025 4:30 am

And we still can't beat the Dodgers to save our lives.
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Post#618 » by knicks94 » Sat May 31, 2025 4:36 am

If the Yankees are going to beat the Dodgers in the World Series it is going to have to be with a different manager.
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Post#619 » by blue and orange » Sat May 31, 2025 4:57 am

knicks94 wrote:If the Yankees are going to beat the Dodgers in the World Series it is going to have to be with a different manager.


Assuming we even get there, I wouldn’t trust Boone in a series against Detroit and AJ Hinch. Dodgers have a huge psychological edge on their Yankees.

I know fans are feeling good about this team and I get it but they should be winning the division and have one of the best records. Losing a series to Dodgers isnt a huge deal it’s inter league play but how do the Yankees respond is another thing and I still have no faith in Cashman or Boone.

Team front runs and relies too much on the hr, they aren’t willing to get their hands dirty and willing to fight through adversity.
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Post#620 » by The KnicksFix » Sat May 31, 2025 5:46 am

Still can’t beat the dodgers dammit

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