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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#601 » by nedleeds » Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:56 pm

god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.

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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#602 » by god shammgod » Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:58 pm

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god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.

Josh Hart still standing in the corner barely guarded by the opposing center at 11:56am two days later.


and mikal dribbling his way into midrange shots when he's wide open from 3. it's not ideal. :lol:
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Post#603 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:01 pm

god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.

Donte took a career high 8.7 3s a game under Thibs too
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#604 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:20 pm

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Gravy wrote:Dont we have one of the best defenses in the league since Mitch and Deuce came back?

KP went 8-13 from three and they have Tatum. I'd rather have those two players, you guys would want the coach instead :lol:



If we had KP he'd be posting up 75% of the time because the idiot you keep defending doesn't value the 3 point shot. Horford plays 8 less minutes than KAT and takes more threes than him. The way you glaze Tom is crazy.

You mean like how Thibs had two different players break the Knicks three point record since he's been here.

KAT was destroying Mazzulla's dumb scheme of having guards defend him in the post but you want him to stand at three point line instead where he's 4-12 in the last four games. Didnt posters just say thats what KAT was doing that was stupid in the first game vs the Celtics?




The GLAZE is unreal, Thibs could shoot someone in the stands, and you'd say the person should have got out the way :lol:


KAT has the lowest three point attempt rate since he was 23, when he was also coached by Thibs. You talking about guys breaking a Knicks record, while we're 27th in the league in threes attempted with one of the best shooting bigs in history who is taking less threes per game than a center coming off the bench :lol:

Every post you make is either to defend, strawman or whataboutism, nothing else.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#605 » by nedleeds » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:23 pm

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god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.

Josh Hart still standing in the corner barely guarded by the opposing center at 11:56am two days later.


and mikal dribbling his way into midrange shots when he's wide open from 3. it's not ideal. :lol:

Well he has the body for contact. Mikal is a Rich Mans Jimmy Butler.
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Post#606 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:26 pm

god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.




The corner three is easier to defend now, you're making a case against Thibs by even saying that, he's using old concepts :lol: . The Celtics shoot most of their threes above the break, as do the Cavs and Thunder. The Celtics have taken nearly 3000 threes from the wings and top of the key, roughly 800 from the corners. A bulk of threes on elite teams come from the wings now, because the goal is to extend the opponents' defense.


We have Brunson and KAT and yet Pritchard and KP have combined for more threes off a screen than them.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#607 » by Gravy » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:28 pm

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god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.

Donte took a career high 8.7 3s a game under Thibs too

He was 6th in the league in three point attempts last season.
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Post#608 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:35 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.

Donte took a career high 8.7 3s a game under Thibs too




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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#609 » by Gravy » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:35 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Gravy wrote:
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If we had KP he'd be posting up 75% of the time because the idiot you keep defending doesn't value the 3 point shot. Horford plays 8 less minutes than KAT and takes more threes than him. The way you glaze Tom is crazy.

You mean like how Thibs had two different players break the Knicks three point record since he's been here.

KAT was destroying Mazzulla's dumb scheme of having guards defend him in the post but you want him to stand at three point line instead where he's 4-12 in the last four games. Didnt posters just say thats what KAT was doing that was stupid in the first game vs the Celtics?




The GLAZE is unreal, Thibs could shoot someone in the stands, and you'd say the person should have got out the way :lol:


KAT has the lowest three point attempt rate since he was 23, when he was also coached by Thibs. You talking about guys breaking a Knicks record, while we're 27th in the league in threes attempted with one of the best shooting bigs in history who is taking less threes per game than a center coming off the bench :lol:

Every post you make is either to defend, strawman or whataboutism, nothing else.

You ignored KAT abusing the Celtics this game because you think guarding centers with point guards in the post is modern so it must be good.

KAT is having the best season of his career while playing with a broken hand that you want him to shoot more threes with. Yeah I'll take Thibs all day over wierdo schemes that dont make sense without an MVP to bail you out lol
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#610 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:40 pm

Gravy wrote:
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Gravy wrote:You mean like how Thibs had two different players break the Knicks three point record since he's been here.

KAT was destroying Mazzulla's dumb scheme of having guards defend him in the post but you want him to stand at three point line instead where he's 4-12 in the last four games. Didnt posters just say thats what KAT was doing that was stupid in the first game vs the Celtics?




The GLAZE is unreal, Thibs could shoot someone in the stands, and you'd say the person should have got out the way :lol:


KAT has the lowest three point attempt rate since he was 23, when he was also coached by Thibs. You talking about guys breaking a Knicks record, while we're 27th in the league in threes attempted with one of the best shooting bigs in history who is taking less threes per game than a center coming off the bench :lol:

Every post you make is either to defend, strawman or whataboutism, nothing else.

You ignored KAT abusing the Celtics this game because you think guarding centers with point guards in the post is modern so it must be good.

KAT is having the best season of his career while playing with a broken hand that you want him to shoot more threes with. Yeah I'll take Thibs all day over wierdo schemes that dont make sense without an MVP to bail you out lol





We lost.

The Celtics want you to trade 2s vs their 3s, because they understand math.

KAT is shooting 42% from three, I want his volume to increase because this is not 2008. We have a Porsche GT3RS and you're happy that we're only drag racing it when it's made to handle corners.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#611 » by Gravy » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:54 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Gravy wrote:
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The GLAZE is unreal, Thibs could shoot someone in the stands, and you'd say the person should have got out the way :lol:


KAT has the lowest three point attempt rate since he was 23, when he was also coached by Thibs. You talking about guys breaking a Knicks record, while we're 27th in the league in threes attempted with one of the best shooting bigs in history who is taking less threes per game than a center coming off the bench :lol:

Every post you make is either to defend, strawman or whataboutism, nothing else.

You ignored KAT abusing the Celtics this game because you think guarding centers with point guards in the post is modern so it must be good.

KAT is having the best season of his career while playing with a broken hand that you want him to shoot more threes with. Yeah I'll take Thibs all day over wierdo schemes that dont make sense without an MVP to bail you out lol





We lost.

The Celtics want you to trade 2s vs their 3s, because they understand math.

KAT is shooting 42% from three, I want his volume to increase because this is not 2008. We have a Porsche GT3RS and you're happy that we're only drag racing it when it's made to handle corners.

The math said the Celtics shot 39% from three and we shot 29%. Towns going 5-15 from three scoring 15pts, instead of 13-18 inside the three point line scoring 26pts with free throws is not winning us the game. Why do you keep trying to use KAT like Steph Curry, we dont have the Warriors or Celtics roster. This is like criticizing Pat Riley for not turning the 94 Knicks into the showtime Lakers
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#612 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:00 pm

Gravy wrote:
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Gravy wrote:You ignored KAT abusing the Celtics this game because you think guarding centers with point guards in the post is modern so it must be good.

KAT is having the best season of his career while playing with a broken hand that you want him to shoot more threes with. Yeah I'll take Thibs all day over wierdo schemes that dont make sense without an MVP to bail you out lol





We lost.

The Celtics want you to trade 2s vs their 3s, because they understand math.

KAT is shooting 42% from three, I want his volume to increase because this is not 2008. We have a Porsche GT3RS and you're happy that we're only drag racing it when it's made to handle corners.

The math said the Celtics shot 39% from three and we shot 29%. Towns going 5-15 from three scoring 15pts, instead of 13-18 inside the three point line scoring 26pts with free throws is not winning us the game. Why do you keep trying to use KAT like Steph Curry, we dont have the Warriors or Celtics roster




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I don't know how to tell you this Gravy, but we didn't win. They didn't have Horford and Brown played 21 minutes, and we still lost. I see you're trying to take a moral victory here, which is sad :(

This is your other tactic, there's no middle ground, you need to use wild extremes like a child. Who said anything about Curry? I said I wanted KAT's volume to increase, it could go back to what it was with the Wolves when Tom wasn't around -

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Guess which years are Thibs. For as many minutes as he plays he should be taking 8 a game.
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Post#613 » by DOT » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:01 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Gravy wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


The GLAZE is unreal, Thibs could shoot someone in the stands, and you'd say the person should have got out the way :lol:


KAT has the lowest three point attempt rate since he was 23, when he was also coached by Thibs. You talking about guys breaking a Knicks record, while we're 27th in the league in threes attempted with one of the best shooting bigs in history who is taking less threes per game than a center coming off the bench :lol:

Every post you make is either to defend, strawman or whataboutism, nothing else.

You ignored KAT abusing the Celtics this game because you think guarding centers with point guards in the post is modern so it must be good.

KAT is having the best season of his career while playing with a broken hand that you want him to shoot more threes with. Yeah I'll take Thibs all day over wierdo schemes that dont make sense without an MVP to bail you out lol





We lost.

The Celtics want you to trade 2s vs their 3s, because they understand math.

KAT is shooting 42% from three, I want his volume to increase because this is not 2008. We have a Porsche GT3RS and you're happy that we're only drag racing it when it's made to handle corners.

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Plus it's also like, KAT ain't ever gonna provide much on defense, so you gotta at least maximize his offense or there's no point in having him,
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god shammgod wrote:the problem is that we don't have anybody on the team who prefers taking 3s to anything else. we had that with donte but we don't now. everybody would rather penetrate. thibs has said many times that he wants corner 3s and shots at the rim because he's following the analytics. it's up to them to take them.


I agree that we need another shooter. I've been saying, a 3-D wing probably moves the needle for us a little more than one of Hart/Bridges. They're a little duplicative.
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Post#615 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:05 pm

DOT wrote:
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Gravy wrote:You ignored KAT abusing the Celtics this game because you think guarding centers with point guards in the post is modern so it must be good.

KAT is having the best season of his career while playing with a broken hand that you want him to shoot more threes with. Yeah I'll take Thibs all day over wierdo schemes that dont make sense without an MVP to bail you out lol





We lost.

The Celtics want you to trade 2s vs their 3s, because they understand math.

KAT is shooting 42% from three, I want his volume to increase because this is not 2008. We have a Porsche GT3RS and you're happy that we're only drag racing it when it's made to handle corners.

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Plus it's also like, KAT ain't ever gonna provide much on defense, so you gotta at least maximize his offense or there's no point in having him,




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Post#617 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:25 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks need to trade Hart because Thibs can’t be trusted with players like Hart. So it’s either trade Hart or fire Thibs.

I’d say both but I’m not a negative person


Hart is a perfect high energy bench player. Every team needs one. I'm not a Thibs hater by any means but logic tells me to fire Thibs.

Hart is like crack to Thibs. If he’s on the roster Thibs will overplay and mis-utilize him
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We lost.

The Celtics want you to trade 2s vs their 3s, because they understand math.

KAT is shooting 42% from three, I want his volume to increase because this is not 2008. We have a Porsche GT3RS and you're happy that we're only drag racing it when it's made to handle corners.

The math said the Celtics shot 39% from three and we shot 29%. Towns going 5-15 from three scoring 15pts, instead of 13-18 inside the three point line scoring 26pts with free throws is not winning us the game. Why do you keep trying to use KAT like Steph Curry, we dont have the Warriors or Celtics roster




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I don't know how to tell you this Gravy, but we didn't win. They didn't have Horford and Brown played 21 minutes, and we still lost. I see you're trying to take a moral victory here, which is sad :(

This is your other tactic, there's no middle ground, you need to use wild extremes like a child. Who said anything about Curry? I said I wanted KAT's volume to increase, it could go back to what it was with the Wolves when Tom wasn't around -

KAT's three point attempt rate
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Guess which years are Thibs. For as many minutes as he plays he should be taking 8 a game.

So instead of losing by 2 you want us to get blown out again with KAT bricking threes all night? yeah I dont see how that is better
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Post#619 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:33 pm

Gravy wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Gravy wrote:The math said the Celtics shot 39% from three and we shot 29%. Towns going 5-15 from three scoring 15pts, instead of 13-18 inside the three point line scoring 26pts with free throws is not winning us the game. Why do you keep trying to use KAT like Steph Curry, we dont have the Warriors or Celtics roster




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I don't know how to tell you this Gravy, but we didn't win. They didn't have Horford and Brown played 21 minutes, and we still lost. I see you're trying to take a moral victory here, which is sad :(

This is your other tactic, there's no middle ground, you need to use wild extremes like a child. Who said anything about Curry? I said I wanted KAT's volume to increase, it could go back to what it was with the Wolves when Tom wasn't around -

KAT's three point attempt rate
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Guess which years are Thibs. For as many minutes as he plays he should be taking 8 a game.

So instead of losing by 2 you want us to get blown out again with KAT bricking threes all night? yeah I dont see how that is better




Ah, so the 42% three point shooter is going to brick every three, maybe the coach should come up with better plays for him :o


I see that was your championship and an actual moral victory, nasty work. I guess some of you really want to hang the banner "Kept it under 40 against the Celtics 2024-2025".
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Gravy wrote:
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I don't know how to tell you this Gravy, but we didn't win. They didn't have Horford and Brown played 21 minutes, and we still lost. I see you're trying to take a moral victory here, which is sad :(

This is your other tactic, there's no middle ground, you need to use wild extremes like a child. Who said anything about Curry? I said I wanted KAT's volume to increase, it could go back to what it was with the Wolves when Tom wasn't around -

KAT's three point attempt rate
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Guess which years are Thibs. For as many minutes as he plays he should be taking 8 a game.

So instead of losing by 2 you want us to get blown out again with KAT bricking threes all night? yeah I dont see how that is better




Ah, so the 42% three point shooter is going to brick every three, maybe the coach should come up with better plays for him :o


I see that was your championship and an actual moral victory, nasty work. I guess some of you really want to hang the banner "Kept it under 40 against the Celtics 2024-2025".

He had one of his best offensive games of the season, you're just making up things to hate Thibs :lol:

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