THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th

[moocow007]

Man Bluest is really still trying to convince people on Clark. He got Optimus on his side, which should tell us all something.

We need to be decent next year. Harrington should be trade bait.

Clark is too big and too skilled to pas up. We passed on McGee last year. Lets not pass on a talented big again this year.

Clark plays smaller than Nate.

If Clark played up to his size he'd be talked about as a top pick in this draft. That's the drawback (and risk) with taking him. He has shown flashes where he looks absolutely dominating and everything including the energy and fire is there so it's not like he doesn't have it in him. IF you draft him you're hoping that he'll mature into it and become more of a force instead of settling. Sure the danger is that he becomes another Tim Thomas but, again, Curry can turn into Eddie House (great shooting but never able to overcome the size and lack of true PG skills), Jennings could turn into Louis Williams II (flashy and all but at the end of the day, what is he?), etc, etc, etc. That's why it's still a crapshoot. You can play it safe and go with someone that should at least give you a solid role player (and at worst Curry would do that) or you can take a chance on someone with high upside and that they MAY realize it.

[GuyverADL]

If Clark played up to his size he'd be talked about as a top pick in this draft. That's the drawback (and risk) with taking him. He has shown flashes where he looks absolutely dominating and everything including the energy and fire is there so it's not like he doesn't have it in him. IF you draft him you're hoping that he'll mature into it and become more of a force instead of settling. Sure the danger is that he becomes another Tim Thomas but, again, Curry can turn into Eddie House (great shooting but never able to overcome the size and lack of true PG skills), Jennings could turn into Louis Williams II (flashy and all but at the end of the day, what is he?), etc, etc, etc. That's why it's still a crapshoot.

Jennings isnt slipping evne if he is drafted and traded.

Evans is NOT slipping past Golden State. Why? Monta Ellis can play SG and Evans will be the big PG.

Evans is what Crawford isnt.

If Clark becomes Tim Thomas you trade him in 2-3 yrs.

[Jose7]

How do people question Curry's ability to play point guard? Am I missing something? Say he doesn't play defense, say he needs to improve his strength but his all around offensive game shouldn't be questioned in terms of talent (goes left and right, gets to the FT line, great in transition, very good passer, good ball handler, and unlimited range on his jumpshot).

[GuyverADL]

How do people question Curry's ability to play point guard? Am I missing something? Say he doesn't play defense, say he needs to improve his strength but his all around offensive game shouldn't be questioned in terms of talent (goes left and right, gets to the FT line, great in transition, very good passer, good ball handler, and unlimited range on his jumpshot).

You called OJ Mayo Jamal Crawford 2.0

[TrueWarrior]

If Clark played up to his size he'd be talked about as a top pick in this draft. That's the drawback (and risk) with taking him. He has shown flashes where he looks absolutely dominating and everything including the energy and fire is there so it's not like he doesn't have it in him. IF you draft him you're hoping that he'll mature into it and become more of a force instead of settling. Sure the danger is that he becomes another Tim Thomas but, again, Curry can turn into Eddie House (great shooting but never able to overcome the size and lack of true PG skills), Jennings could turn into Louis Williams II (flashy and all but at the end of the day, what is he?), etc, etc, etc. That's why it's still a crapshoot. You can play it safe and go with someone that should at least give you a solid role player (and at worst Curry would do that) or you can take a chance on someone with high upside and that they MAY realize it.

Im just done with soft players man. I know Clark has talent but players dont just magically become un-soft. I mean did your personality change? Clark is a quiet kid who will prob be content being a solid 3rd option, flashing his talent every once in a while to tease you. I just dont see it in him at all.

With that said Im not totally against taking him. Ill be content if we walk away with Flynn, Curry, Evans, Clark, or Derozan at our pick. I also like Maynor and Lawson but they seem like too much of a reach at 8.

[blueNorange]

How do people question Curry's ability to play point guard? Am I missing something? Say he doesn't play defense, say he needs to improve his strength but his all around offensive game shouldn't be questioned in terms of talent (goes left and right, gets to the FT line, great in transition, very good passer, good ball handler, and unlimited range on his jumpshot).

You called OJ Mayo Jamal Crawford 2.0

and he thinks eric gordon is not a ben gordon clone.

[Smoove]

You lads need to quit on Curry he won't be nothing special, same goes for Flynn. Curry is a one dimensional player like Arenas all he can do is shoot the ball and he probably won't even be nowhere good as Arenas in shooting, specially in the NBA.

[Paladin55]

With that said Im not totally against taking him. Ill be content if we walk away with Flynn, Curry, Evans, Clark, or Derozan at our pick. I also like Maynor and Lawson but they seem like too much of a reach at 8.

I just feel that, one way or another, we are coming out of this draft with a decent player. EVERY player in this draft has some major question marks surrounding them, including Griffin. We should be able to get a quality player at 8, and hopefully buy a pick later in the draft if that is possible.

[BasicBall]

I think the damn Knicks are gonna take Terrance Williams....LOL...Listening to what Walsh was quoted as saying sounds like the kid from Louisville is gonna be the pick.

I swear to god, I think they are gonna take that kid at 8. T-Will

Damn you Bluest

[Paladin55]

I think the damn Knicks are gonna take Terrance Williams....LOL...Listening to what Walsh was quoted as saying sounds like the kid from Louisville is gonna be the pick.

The quote you are referring to?:
"We're looking for good, all-around players who are defensively inclined. There are a lot of good all-around players. I think it requires guys who have all-around capabilities."

I am pro-Curry, but he mentions an interest in Curry and then throws out this line.

No way T. Williams is chosen, unless they buy a pick later in the draft and take him.

DraftExpress hates Holiday, but other draft sites and experts really like him, and he might conceivably be the best all-around PG in the draft, although not the most spectacular by any means. He also has good PG size and plays defense.

As I said earlier, though, we should have a number of decent prospects available when we pick. Walsh and company have a lot of homework to do.

[mjhp911]

1. I'm happy for the Bullets.

2. I'm glad the worst teams, record-wise, fell back. Tankers should always be punished.

3. Be happy we didn't fall back.

[adjacent2bench]

About the Lottery in general, I just think it's ridiculous that a team who was 2nd worst in a conference ends up with the 8th pick.

I think the worst team in the East and worst in west should have a 25% chance of winning, then comes 2nd worst in East and 2nd worst in West with same amount of chance, and so on.

The Western Conference gets stronger every year. 8 Western Conf teams in the top 10 this year is ridiculous.

[NoLayupRule]

1. I'm happy for the Bullets.

2. I'm glad the worst teams, record-wise, fell back. Tankers should always be punished.

3. Be happy we didn't fall back.

+1

[sonny]

Sacramento didn't tank.

They just sucked.

[richardhutnik]

Offer the pick to Utah in exchange for next year's #1.

So, the Knicks will be drafting 7th pick or better next season?

- Rich

[darkjedi4z]

How about Jrue Holiday? There's been a lotta buzz about this kid...

[EchelonNYK]

Feel that disappointment "Tank Brigade". it's a sickening feeling isn't it?

this is what you all wanted. i honestly could care less about the Draft Lottery, i don't find any joy in this sh*t. give me the playoff's instead.

[moocow007]

Sacramento didn't tank.

They just sucked.

They did suck but didn't they hold out several of their players late in the season and let the backups play even though they weren't injured?

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

Feel that disappointment "Tank Brigade". it's a sickening feeling isn't it?

this is what you all wanted. i honestly could care less about the Draft Lottery, i don't find any joy in this sh*t. give me the playoff's instead.

Even if we made the playoffs, we'd be out of it already.

Not that I'm condoning tanking. I'm just saying . . .

[GuyverADL]

Clark plays smaller than Nate.

Do you know why that is?

It is because he was short his entire life and got a growth spurt in Highschool kind of like Durant.

Durant is 6' 10" tall and plays like guard. Obviously Clark isnt as good as Durant but you get my point.