Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV

[kane2021]

you understand it man. What he did last night is sucker ****. You destroyed him, yet you doing that. The **** is lopsided and you still acting like that. He was talking hella **** in T.O knowing nothing can happen. After last night its not about rap anymore. You literally can get punched in the face now. See Drake took it outside of rap, but he did it wack. Im mean come on...is meek supposed to battle you with memes? he brought high profile artist there and was clowing meek. I am actually pissed off at Will Smith. You supposed to at the minimum stay quiet and ride for the home team with your silence. NO. Your from Philly, and yucking it up with Drake. Your a Philly icon...have some pride. Like I said earlier...dude played himself last night.

That will smith **** really wasnt cool man. Look lets be real. This started on twitter. Over a reference hook that was on a beat. And Meek got served one for trying to be slick. Its not like Meek **** his moms. Robbed his brother. To take it as far to where you trying to make it where folks are laughing at him where he grew up is past the record. Thats personal and needs to be addressed in the flesh.

Meek called him out on his craft. He was the one who started this whole thing and Drake has the right to keep piling on. Put up or shut up, right? Calling for a fight, or worse, is crazy. "Addressed in the flesh" -- really? Violence is really necessary?

He started. Drake finished it. Whats all this other stuff about? If it was about his craft,... why didnt he just answer "wanna know" and drop the 3 peat? Or better yet, why not humbly accept your victory and move on?

As far as violence we talking about music that was born in the streets of the south bronx. There will always be that element to it regardless of the fake acts that get put on. You dont think Drake is rolling with real goons too? He's probably got them on his payroll and thats why he's so gassed up.

I can rattle off a bunch of instances where beef started on the record and ended in the street. Thats part of it, your not protected by the label so you got to be responsible in your actuions. I understand meek started it. He got served. Meek stood shut and its over. But drake keeps on. He's keeping it alive. And he's not doing it on the record. People get their knot rocked for that. Im not the one who made it the way it is, im just telling it like it is.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

That will smith **** really wasnt cool man. Look lets be real. This started on twitter. Over a reference hook that was on a beat. And Meek got served one for trying to be slick. Its not like Meek **** his moms. Robbed his brother. To take it as far to where you trying to make it where folks are laughing at him where he grew up is past the record. Thats personal and needs to be addressed in the flesh.

Meek called him out on his craft. He was the one who started this whole thing and Drake has the right to keep piling on. Put up or shut up, right? Calling for a fight, or worse, is crazy. "Addressed in the flesh" -- really? Violence is really necessary?

sometimes it is. I am not saying drake should be shot. But Should they shoot a fair one? yeah all day. Meek called him out...and got his JUSTICE. It already happened. Meek has already received the worst penalty a rapper has ever received. Before last night, he was already defeated...You dont understand the science of not kicking a man when he is already on the floor, unless you ready for the recourse? A person can only take so much abuse. Drake has taken it outside of rap. If it becomes physical, its his fault. He is acting like he built for it.

I'm sorry, but Meek starting this beef with Drake over some petty **** and then having to resort to violence because Drake's response was too strong would be the weakest move in history. That would probably finish off his career for good...no one would respect him ever again

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Y'all do realize that Meek started this whole thing because Drake didn't tweet out his album right? Y'all are acting like Drake stole his wife or something. Lol at Meek resorting to taking this to the streets

[kane2021]

lol Meek Mill started this...he deserves everything being thrown at him right now.

If you got smart at the mouth and started a fight, right...... and got hit with a 2 punch combo and got knocked out,... you deserve it.

But if you start getting kicked while you down,... and others jump in,... and they call a whole crowd over to watch and laugh as they take advantage of you in a vulnerable state. Bring people from your own neighborhood into it,... you still going to be cool? Do you still think you deserve it?

Honestly I wouldnt be able to watch it. I would have to step in. Like any of your friends would. You deserved what you got but all that other **** was uncalled for. And if you dont do something about it one of your people will.

[Fury]

Almost as weak as bringing out Will Smith and memes and other bull. What meek said wasn't even a lie.

[IllmaticHandler]

Meek called him out on his craft. He was the one who started this whole thing and Drake has the right to keep piling on. Put up or shut up, right? Calling for a fight, or worse, is crazy. "Addressed in the flesh" -- really? Violence is really necessary?

sometimes it is. I am not saying drake should be shot. But Should they shoot a fair one? yeah all day. Meek called him out...and got his JUSTICE. It already happened. Meek has already received the worst penalty a rapper has ever received. Before last night, he was already defeated...You dont understand the science of not kicking a man when he is already on the floor, unless you ready for the recourse? A person can only take so much abuse. Drake has taken it outside of rap. If it becomes physical, its his fault. He is acting like he built for it.

I'm sorry, but Meek starting this beef with Drake over some petty **** and then having to resort to violence because Drake's response was too strong would be the weakest move in history. That would probably finish off his career for good...no one would respect him ever again

so basically your saying that there is no Line Drake can cross in all of this? you bugging. At some point its not about Hip Hop and it becomes personal. Listen, fighting drake would not be your response, but if they ever did have to fight it is what it is. **** if Nas And Jay fought over that car seat line, I would not have been mad. Even Jay Z moms said that he crossed the line. Everything drake does after back to back is extra...especially since meek has been quiet since then.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

lol Meek Mill started this...he deserves everything being thrown at him right now.

If you got smart at the mouth and started a fight, right...... and got hit with a 2 punch combo and got knocked out,... you deserve it.

But if you start getting kicked while you down,... and others jump in,... and they call a whole crowd over to watch and laugh as they take advantage of you in a vulnerable state. Bring people from your own neighborhood into it,... you still going to be cool? Do you still think you deserve it?

Honestly I wouldnt be able to watch it. I would have to step in. Like any of your friends would. You deserved what you got but all that other **** was uncalled for. And if you dont do something about it one of your people will.

That's not the same thing...Drake isn't hitting Meek with a 2 piece and then throwing haymakers while Meek is unconscious on the ground bleeding. Drake is beating him down lyrically...not physically. Meek thought that Drake was soft so he'd win this one easily, and now he's finding out the hard way that he was wrong.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Oh Jesus whatever. I'm clearly not "hard enough" for this debate.

[DaKnicksAreBack]

Oh Jesus whatever. I'm clearly not "hard enough" for this debate.

lol

[kane2021]

lol Meek Mill started this...he deserves everything being thrown at him right now.

If you got smart at the mouth and started a fight, right...... and got hit with a 2 punch combo and got knocked out,... you deserve it.

But if you start getting kicked while you down,... and others jump in,... and they call a whole crowd over to watch and laugh as they take advantage of you in a vulnerable state. Bring people from your own neighborhood into it,... you still going to be cool? Do you still think you deserve it?

Honestly I wouldnt be able to watch it. I would have to step in. Like any of your friends would. You deserved what you got but all that other **** was uncalled for. And if you dont do something about it one of your people will.

That's not the same thing...Drake isn't hitting Meek with a 2 piece and then throwing haymakers while Meek is unconscious on the ground bleeding. Drake is beating him down lyrically...not physically. Meek thought that Drake was soft so he'd win this one easily, and now he's finding out the hard way that he was wrong.

Bro,..... I dont know if you noticed or not,.... the lyrical part of this is over. Been over. Battles over. Its like I said before,... if its about lyrics,.... and you want to get in the last word,... why not just respond to wanna know and drop the 3 peat?

We not talking about music anymore. We talking about public character assassination. Over something that might have been true in the first place? People get punched in the face for that. And others sue.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

sometimes it is. I am not saying drake should be shot. But Should they shoot a fair one? yeah all day. Meek called him out...and got his JUSTICE. It already happened. Meek has already received the worst penalty a rapper has ever received. Before last night, he was already defeated...You dont understand the science of not kicking a man when he is already on the floor, unless you ready for the recourse? A person can only take so much abuse. Drake has taken it outside of rap. If it becomes physical, its his fault. He is acting like he built for it.

I'm sorry, but Meek starting this beef with Drake over some petty **** and then having to resort to violence because Drake's response was too strong would be the weakest move in history. That would probably finish off his career for good...no one would respect him ever again

so basically your saying that there is no Line Drake can cross in all of this? you bugging. At some point its not about Hip Hop and it becomes personal. Listen, fighting drake would not be your response, but if they ever did have to fight it is what it is. **** if Nas And Jay fought over that car seat line, I would not have been mad. Even Jay Z moms said that he crossed the line. Everything drake does after back to back is extra...especially since meek has been quiet since then.

Meek has no choice but to be quiet right now honestly since his "Wanna Know" record was sooo weak. He had his chance to make some noise and he flopped. If he comes out with another track and it's not straight fire then he might officially be done for good. I don't think that Drake is doing too much extra. Meek was really trying to end Drake's career or kill his credibility, but he didn't know his audience....no one cares about the ghostwriting or reference tracks. Just because Meek tried to go for Drake's throat and failed, that means that Drake can't try to do the same?

[NYKnicksTAPE]

If you got smart at the mouth and started a fight, right...... and got hit with a 2 punch combo and got knocked out,... you deserve it.

But if you start getting kicked while you down,... and others jump in,... and they call a whole crowd over to watch and laugh as they take advantage of you in a vulnerable state. Bring people from your own neighborhood into it,... you still going to be cool? Do you still think you deserve it?

Honestly I wouldnt be able to watch it. I would have to step in. Like any of your friends would. You deserved what you got but all that other **** was uncalled for. And if you dont do something about it one of your people will.

That's not the same thing...Drake isn't hitting Meek with a 2 piece and then throwing haymakers while Meek is unconscious on the ground bleeding. Drake is beating him down lyrically...not physically. Meek thought that Drake was soft so he'd win this one easily, and now he's finding out the hard way that he was wrong.

Bro,..... I dont know if you noticed or not,.... the lyrical part of this is over. Been over. Battles over. Its like I said before,... if its about lyrics,.... and you want to get in the last word,... why not just respond to wanna know and drop the 3 peat?

We not talking about music anymore. We talking about public character assassination. Over something that might have been true in the first place? People get punched in the face for that. And others sue.

The only reason that this seems so lopsided is because Meek started this and wasn't prepared to finish it at all. If he had come with something hot after Drake dropped "Charged Up" then Drake wouldn't be feeling himself like this. Meek is getting clowned like this because he flopped. Him now taking this to the streets would be pathetic. He's the one that allowed Drake to gain all of this momentum...now Drake is just riding the wave. Not only has Meek embarrassed himself, but he's allowed Drake's approval rating to likely soar after the last week. He has no one to blame but himself.

[j4remi]

Granted there's always someone tryna make a name off whoever's back they can...and Drake is clearly pouring salt in the wound unnecessarily. What Meek was going for was career ending with that ghostwriter claim and I don't think Drake would be this flagrant about it without assurances...dude's too soft but not naive enough to be this out of pocket.

[DaKnicksAreBack]

I stopped being a rap music consumer , maybe, 15 years ago. I grew out of it. I started listening to other music and broadened by tastes . Best thing I ever did. I still listen to hot 97 and power 105 sometimes in the car, but I don't enjoy the music as much as I used to. I'm not sure if it's the music that has changed or not so much that but me. Anyway this feud between these two clowns is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). I'm amazed how many people actually care. I listened to the two songs drake put out, I didn't think they were anything special. Meek Mill's song wasn't a good song either.

[IllmaticHandler]

Granted there's always someone tryna make a name off whoever's back they can...and Drake is clearly pouring salt in the wound unnecessarily. What Meek was going for was career ending with that ghostwriter claim and I don't think Drake would be this flagrant about it without assurances...dude's too soft but not naive enough to be this out of pocket.

He Got OBH. Thats was the key. If you got authentic philly goons on your side now, feeding you **** and now willing to ride and fcuk **** up for you....you think your untouchable. He does not understand that even the most thuggest dude can fall. This is new territory for him and he will make a mistake. Meek got his Karma. Drake keep thinking its a joke...he will get his.

[E-Balla]

Granted there's always someone tryna make a name off whoever's back they can...and Drake is clearly pouring salt in the wound unnecessarily. What Meek was going for was career ending with that ghostwriter claim and I don't think Drake would be this flagrant about it without assurances...dude's too soft but not naive enough to be this out of pocket.

He Got OBH. Thats was the key. If you got authentic philly goons on your side now, feeding you **** and now willing to ride and fcuk **** up for you....you think your untouchable. He does not understand that even the most thuggest dude can fall. This is new territory for him and he will make a mistake. Meek got his Karma. Drake keep thinking its a joke...he will get his.

Drake doesn't care about the goons because he knows Meek isn't going to take it there. He probably got AR on his side because AR used to run with Meek and he has dirt on him that's probably laced in subliminals all through his unreleased songs. I also personally feel like OVO Fest was just his answer to Wanna Know and he probably never drops 3 Peat as long as Meek doesn't say anything else.

Now Drake hasn't done anything nearly as flagrant as Supa Ugly. I don't want to hear that comparison ever again Supa Ugly was a dark moment in Roc history. Jay took Ether waaay too personal and made the most disrespectful track since the NWA beefs.

Almost as weak as bringing out Will Smith and memes and other bull. What meek said wasn't even a lie.

Will Smith wasn't brought out on stage or anything but that clip of Kanye and Will laughing at the memes on Ye's phone was sad. It was only then that I realized Meek is finished already even without 3 Peat (yeah even the "I haven't taken a loss all week" video wasn't that bad). He's officially entered the lexicon with Ja-Rule and Ether...

[kane2021]

That's not the same thing...Drake isn't hitting Meek with a 2 piece and then throwing haymakers while Meek is unconscious on the ground bleeding. Drake is beating him down lyrically...not physically. Meek thought that Drake was soft so he'd win this one easily, and now he's finding out the hard way that he was wrong.

Bro,..... I dont know if you noticed or not,.... the lyrical part of this is over. Been over. Battles over. Its like I said before,... if its about lyrics,.... and you want to get in the last word,... why not just respond to wanna know and drop the 3 peat?

We not talking about music anymore. We talking about public character assassination. Over something that might have been true in the first place? People get punched in the face for that. And others sue.

The only reason that this seems so lopsided is because Meek started this and wasn't prepared to finish it at all. If he had come with something hot after Drake dropped "Charged Up" then Drake wouldn't be feeling himself like this. Meek is getting clowned like this because he flopped. Him now taking this to the streets would be pathetic. He's the one that allowed Drake to gain all of this momentum...now Drake is just riding the wave. Not only has Meek embarrassed himself, but he's allowed Drake's approval rating to likely soar after the last week. He has no one to blame but himself.

So let me get this straight.

You call a dude out for not promoting you. And accuse him of something.

The dude you call out does two records.

You do a record proving you were telling the truth. But its a flop. You lose.

That gives the guy who won the right to continue to gloat and piss on your name? Its not pathetic to win, and behave that way?

So let me ask you this. Whats a man to do? You lose. Dude wont shut up. You cant beat him. He's taken it a step further. Whats a man to do? Because aint no man going to let another continue to pick on him and piss on his name like this.

I mean I dont understand. You want one guy to be a punk and continue to take it because he deserves it. You want the other guy to act like a punk and continue to dish it because he's entitled. So how does it end? What your saying is your ok with two dudes acting like punks as long as you find it entertaining? And if one stops acting like a punk and **** the other punk up its pathetic?

Isnt the whole point in defending yourself to stop the offensive attack? Sense when is it ok to go beyond defending yourself and become overly offensive? I mean even in the legal world the stuff we're talking about here is a charge. Or a lawsuit.

In sports too! Guys get called for technical fouls for taunting. Over celebrating. Being unsportsman like after a win results in boos, suspensions, fines, or ass kicking.

Whats the real reason drake is getting a pass here? I feel like there is some kind of hidden motive. I know for a fact if the tables were turned the opinions would be different. So what is it?

[E-Balla]

Well I take my whole last post back Meek is seemingly gearing up to respond to Drake again. He might need 3 Peat to finally stop him if he does drop another one.

"When they counted me out shoulda counted me in ....just messed the count up on a milly... F#%k it count it again!" -Reek Millz via IG not Twitter

[E-Balla]

Bro,..... I dont know if you noticed or not,.... the lyrical part of this is over. Been over. Battles over. Its like I said before,... if its about lyrics,.... and you want to get in the last word,... why not just respond to wanna know and drop the 3 peat?

We not talking about music anymore. We talking about public character assassination. Over something that might have been true in the first place? People get punched in the face for that. And others sue.

The only reason that this seems so lopsided is because Meek started this and wasn't prepared to finish it at all. If he had come with something hot after Drake dropped "Charged Up" then Drake wouldn't be feeling himself like this. Meek is getting clowned like this because he flopped. Him now taking this to the streets would be pathetic. He's the one that allowed Drake to gain all of this momentum...now Drake is just riding the wave. Not only has Meek embarrassed himself, but he's allowed Drake's approval rating to likely soar after the last week. He has no one to blame but himself.

So let me get this straight.

You call a dude out for not promoting you. And accuse him of something.

The dude you call out does two records.

You do a record proving you were telling the truth. But its a flop. You lose.

That gives the guy who won the right to continue to gloat and piss on your name? Its not pathetic to win, and behave that way?

So let me ask you this. Whats a man to do? You lose. Dude wont shut up. You cant beat him. He's taken it a step further. Whats a man to do? Because aint no man going to let another continue to pick on him and piss on his name like this.

I mean I dont understand. You want one guy to be a punk and continue to take it because he deserves it. You want the other guy to act like a punk and continue to dish it because he's entitled. So how does it end? What your saying is your ok with two dudes acting like punks as long as you find it entertaining? And if one stops acting like a punk and **** the other punk up its pathetic?

Isnt the whole point in defending yourself to stop the offensive attack? Sense when is it ok to go beyond defending yourself and become overly offensive? I mean even in the legal world the stuff we're talking about here is a charge. Or a lawsuit.

In sports too! Guys get called for technical fouls for taunting. Over celebrating. Being unsportsman like after a win results in boos, suspensions, fines, or ass kicking.

Whats the real reason drake is getting a pass here? I feel like there is some kind of hidden motive. I know for a fact if the tables were turned the opinions would be different. So what is it?

1. The track didn't prove anything. That reference clip he had was just a hook and like Royce said in that video I've shown before (and plenty of other guys have said) what Drake had wasn't out of the ordinary for rappers.

2. I feel people are giving Drake a pass because they want to see if in 2015 a rapper can end another's career like they could before. IDK why but they do. Personally I just want Meek to come back with something good because I had hopes for him.

[kane2021]

I stopped being a rap music consumer , maybe, 15 years ago. I grew out of it. I started listening to other music and broadened by tastes . Best thing I ever did. I still listen to hot 97 and power 105 sometimes in the car, but I don't enjoy the music as much as I used to. I'm not sure if it's the music that has changed or not so much that but me. Anyway this feud between these two clowns is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). I'm amazed how many people actually care. I listened to the two songs drake put out, I didn't think they were anything special. Meek Mill's song wasn't a good song either.

Im with you on this. I listen to 80's stuff and instrumentals now. I cant listen to this new stuff. I screwed up and got sucked into the hype surrounding this little feud. People are talking about it and I couldnt help myself. The whole thing has changed. The artists. The music. The fans. Everything. Im in the south now. I see white kids driving pickup trucks with rebel flags on the back bumping eminem.

I really think the problem is that rap music is for younger folks. It never matured with the original generation that came up on it. We grow up. Through our 20's. Through our 30's. But the music is still coming from a teenagers perspective.

I heard this one song recently. Its a solid song dont get me wrong. But its a dude talking about being a virgin. Being in school and this girl wants to have sex and he's pretending he's not a virgin. lol. I was feeling it but then I caught wind of what was actually going on in the song and im like c'mon man. lol. Im banging women thats already grandmothers for Christ sakes.