Star Wars Episode VIII - SPOILERS

[vallen]

Loved the movie but the leia scene was mad stupid. She became star lord out of nowhere

i thought i was completely missing something. thanks, i thought it was just me.

[IllmaticHandler]

The Force was described as an energy that binds everyone, everything ... correct? The Phantom Menace made it a microscopic life form that lives inside everybody's cells. The more you have the stronger you are in the force. That isn't spiritual. That is scientific. That's like saying the more fast twitch muscle fibres you have the faster you run. Great. But we didn't need the Force to be explained into science. It lessened it. It made it ordinary. The Force was nothing more than a virus.

Damn Bro. You have a HARD time with Context with these quotes. Midichlorains and the force are NOT the same thing. so you are incorrect again

"Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you'll hear them speaking to you."
―Qui-Gon Jinn, to Anakin Skywalk

This statement is showing you they are separate from the force.


Midichlorains are THE MEDIUM, on how one CONNECTS to the force. They are not the actual force itself.

Midi-chlorians were intelligent[1] microscopic life-forms that served as organelles within all living cells, existing in a symbiotic relationship with the beings they inhabited[2][6] and comprising a collective consciousness among themselves.[1] Present in all life,[2] midi-chlorians were isomorphic on every planet that supported life.[6] Midi-chlorians, in fact, were necessary for life to exist. They also allowed for a connection with the pervasive energy field known as the Force;[7] in sufficient numbers, midi-chlorians could allow their symbiont organism to detect the Force, and this connection could be strengthened by quieting one's mind,[2] allowing the midi-chlorians to "speak" to their symbiont and communicate the will of the Force.[7] Counts as low as 2,000 midi-chlorians per cell provided no sensitivity to the Force;[8] an average Human had less than 2,500 per cell, while a mildly Force-sensitive being such as Nova Stihl had a count in excess of 5,000.[9] According to Sith Lord Darth Tenebrous, a being born of "pure force" might have a count of 15,000 or more, implying that most Force-sensitives did not have a count that high.[10] Jedi had especially high midi-chlorian counts, and of them Anakin Skywalker was said to have the highest ever recorded[2] at over 20,000, even higher than the powerful Jedi Master Yoda.[7] Though Skywalker later lost a good deal of his organic body, his cells continued to teem with midi-chlorians.[11]

You understand that whether the midichlorians are the force or represent someone's ability to have force powers is irrelevant. Using midichlorians as an explanation for how people can use the force makes it mundane. It's your viral load. So, keep parsing, keep clinging to fine hairs, but you know as well as I do that midichlorians was a huge letdown in the Phantom Menace.

http://techland.time.com/2010/08/10/20000-per-cell-why-midi-chlorians-suck/

You do understand you have not made one solid point, and is at this point Just arguing to argue? Your original Point will always be incorrect about the TPM turned the force into a viral load which has been shown is simply untrue. You went from saying that, to now having a issue with Midichlorians, and thinking they are same as the force, to have a whole new argument and was proven wrong again. You are one of those cats that will and go around and around just to keep talking....

Now you sound foolish as fucck, telling me that, I know as well as you, it was a huge let down. You speak for me now?? . New Flash! I have/had no problem with Midicholrians, they did not ruin/letdown schit for me. That last statement proves like I said, you ALL OVER the place....cause now you telling me what was a Huge Let down for me. Im done here . I did what I had to do. You searching all over the internet to find mofo that shares your viewpoint as if that means anything.

[vallen]

how about Baron Davids hittin Vice Admiral Holdo....i guess shes a milfy 50. I actually thought she looked better in this film than any other ive seen her in.

[Sark]

how about Baron Davids hittin Vice Admiral Holdo....i guess shes a milfy 50. I actually thought she looked better in this film than any other ive seen her in.

You have a fetish for purple hair or something?

[vallen]

how about Baron Davids hittin Vice Admiral Holdo....i guess shes a milfy 50. I actually thought she looked better in this film than any other ive seen her in.

You have a fetish for purple hair or something?

i think thats what it was too

[NBA Fan 1234]

Baron Davis special cameo in Episode 9? Let's make him a regular person with no force training but give him the ability to not only fly to a ship after it explodes, but maybe through hyperspace? Disney, what say you?!

Also, where the hell is the Han Solo trailer. Movie comes out in 5ish months, and not even a teaser...and they JUST released the first official image today. This coming after the latest report saying they are expecting the film to basically flop and are expecting losses.

[IllmaticHandler]

Baron Davis special cameo in Episode 9? Let's make him a regular person with no force training but give him the ability to not only fly to a ship after it explodes, but maybe through hyperspace? Disney, what say you?!

Also, where the hell is the Han Solo trailer. Movie comes out in 5ish months, and not even a teaser...and they JUST released the first official image today. This coming after the latest report saying they are expecting the film to basically flop and are expecting losses.

It prob will take a loss. Alot of heads dont care about schit unless it has Jedi in it. I would expect Obi Wans Movie to blow it out the water.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Baron Davis special cameo in Episode 9? Let's make him a regular person with no force training but give him the ability to not only fly to a ship after it explodes, but maybe through hyperspace? Disney, what say you?!

Also, where the hell is the Han Solo trailer. Movie comes out in 5ish months, and not even a teaser...and they JUST released the first official image today. This coming after the latest report saying they are expecting the film to basically flop and are expecting losses.

It prob will take a loss. Alot of heads dont care about schit unless it has Jedi in it. I would expect Obi Wans Movie to blow it out the water.

I know they're not going to do this, but it'd be hysterical if they named it "Hello There, the Obi Wan story."

[Sark]

TLJ controversy seems to have pissed off enough people that the franchise might not be able to recover. Solo will bomb. Episode IX won't get the draw it should. I've heard they might cancel the Rian Johnson trilogy (they should).

[N Y K]

Word, Baron?!

[shtolky]

TLJ controversy seems to have pissed off enough people that the franchise might not be able to recover. Solo will bomb. Episode IX won't get the draw it should. I've heard they might cancel the Rian Johnson trilogy (they should).

[prophet_of_rage]

Damn Bro. You have a HARD time with Context with these quotes. Midichlorains and the force are NOT the same thing. so you are incorrect again




This statement is showing you they are separate from the force.


Midichlorains are THE MEDIUM, on how one CONNECTS to the force. They are not the actual force itself.

You understand that whether the midichlorians are the force or represent someone's ability to have force powers is irrelevant. Using midichlorians as an explanation for how people can use the force makes it mundane. It's your viral load. So, keep parsing, keep clinging to fine hairs, but you know as well as I do that midichlorians was a huge letdown in the Phantom Menace.

http://techland.time.com/2010/08/10/20000-per-cell-why-midi-chlorians-suck/

You do understand you have not made one solid point, and is at this point Just arguing to argue? Your original Point will always be incorrect about the TPM turned the force into a viral load which has been shown is simply untrue. You went from saying that, to now having a issue with Midichlorians, and thinking they are same as the force, to have a whole new argument and was proven wrong again. You are one of those cats that will and go around and around just to keep talking....

Now you sound foolish as fucck, telling me that, I know as well as you, it was a huge let down. You speak for me now?? . New Flash! I have/had no problem with Midicholrians, they did not ruin/letdown schit for me. That last statement proves like I said, you ALL OVER the place....cause now you telling me what was a Huge Let down for me. Im done here . I did what I had to do. You searching all over the internet to find mofo that shares your viewpoint as if that means anything.

know I am wasting my keystrokes with you. I also know that now you're just down to throwing insults. And finally I know you've ignored the quotations from the script with your declaration that Yoda didn't have time to explain the force. Whatever. I'm trying to show you a different point of view from different angles, but you'd rather throw insults. Have at it. May your midicholorian count be high enough that the Force is accessible to you.

[Oscirus]

Baron Davis special cameo in Episode 9? Let's make him a regular person with no force training but give him the ability to not only fly to a ship after it explodes, but maybe through hyperspace? Disney, what say you?!

Also, where the hell is the Han Solo trailer. Movie comes out in 5ish months, and not even a teaser...and they JUST released the first official image today. This coming after the latest report saying they are expecting the film to basically flop and are expecting losses.

Which reminds me, I guess this counts as a compliment for the film but Billy Lourdes was one of the best nepotism casting decisions out there. She was visible but she never got in the way of the plot.

Solo was always going to be a hard sell. Between making a prequel that nobody asked for and replacing Harrison Ford and Billy **** dee williams, the studio was bound to have their work cut out for them. But the backlash from this movie, and the reports that the lead in this isn't a very good actor, really isn't helping matters.

[IllmaticHandler]

You understand that whether the midichlorians are the force or represent someone's ability to have force powers is irrelevant. Using midichlorians as an explanation for how people can use the force makes it mundane. It's your viral load. So, keep parsing, keep clinging to fine hairs, but you know as well as I do that midichlorians was a huge letdown in the Phantom Menace.

http://techland.time.com/2010/08/10/20000-per-cell-why-midi-chlorians-suck/

You do understand you have not made one solid point, and is at this point Just arguing to argue? Your original Point will always be incorrect about the TPM turned the force into a viral load which has been shown is simply untrue. You went from saying that, to now having a issue with Midichlorians, and thinking they are same as the force, to have a whole new argument and was proven wrong again. You are one of those cats that will and go around and around just to keep talking....

Now you sound foolish as fucck, telling me that, I know as well as you, it was a huge let down. You speak for me now?? . New Flash! I have/had no problem with Midicholrians, they did not ruin/letdown schit for me. That last statement proves like I said, you ALL OVER the place....cause now you telling me what was a Huge Let down for me. Im done here . I did what I had to do. You searching all over the internet to find mofo that shares your viewpoint as if that means anything.

know I am wasting my keystrokes with you. I also know that now you're just down to throwing insults. And finally I know you've ignored the quotations from the script with your declaration that Yoda didn't have time to explain the force. Whatever. I'm trying to show you a different point of view from different angles, but you'd rather throw insults. Have at it. May your midicholorian count be high enough that the Force is accessible to you.

Boo Hoo. Cry me a river

Yeah I will throw insults to a dude, saying you sound foolish, by trying to tell me what was a let down for myself. Its like me telling you that TLJ was wack for you, and you just not admitting it . FOH with that. You can't even see where you was wrong at by trying to speak for me. Different point of Views? Nah looks like you just yapping to me. Listen. Im sorry that Yoda could not explain the Midichlorians in ESB. You can't even get what I said correctly. I never said Yoda did not have time to explain the force...why would I say that when I was the first person to post a quote with him EXPLAINiNG the force . My exact words was he did not have time to explain in its ENTIRETY which is a fact. You think the force was explained in full, and everything that goes along with it,by a character in less than 30 mins screen time in ESB? if that's the case, all force dialogue should have ended with Yoda after ESB never to be mentioned again. Good thing for the story, it did not stop there and was expounded upon in the prequels and other canon.

My Exact words...

there was no way in hell that the force could be explained in its entirety by Yoda in the short moments he had with Luke. Whats the point of even going into Midichlorians when it does not serve a purpose plot-wise in ESB?

[poeman]

Baron Davids in Episode 9 will have the high ground and then...break his knee. Torn ACL. Out for the rebellion count!

[gavran]

It was a direct hit to the bridge where everyone else died. If that isn't enough, she is floating in space...with no suit or anything. Also, she has a connection to the force, but it's not as strong as Lukes AND it was completely out of the blue.

It was a stupid scene, but the floating in space cliché was beat in people's heads by Hollywood so much, they don't even think it can be bogus. You can float in space without a suit, the vacuum won't kill you, it's just 1 atmosphere. Your body can take that and laugh (you don't see divers imploding 10 meters deep don't you?) OK, it would hurt, but won't kill you right away. You also wouldn't instantly freeze to death and broken into pieces, the only way your body loses heat in vacuum is through radiation, and that's slow. 3 minutes is cold water does more damage to you that 30 minutes in space. You'd suffocate in like 3-5 minutes before the vacuum and the coldness of space could do serious damage to your body. Physics >>> movie physics.

[Oscirus]

Don't feel like starting a new topic so I'll post this here.

Not sure what to think about this poster. Not currently a fan on first look.

[Dantares]

It was a direct hit to the bridge where everyone else died. If that isn't enough, she is floating in space...with no suit or anything. Also, she has a connection to the force, but it's not as strong as Lukes AND it was completely out of the blue.

It was a stupid scene, but the floating in space cliché was beat in people's heads by Hollywood so much, they don't even think it can be bogus. You can float in space without a suit, the vacuum won't kill you, it's just 1 atmosphere. Your body can take that and laugh (you don't see divers imploding 10 meters deep don't you?) OK, it would hurt, but won't kill you right away. You also wouldn't instantly freeze to death and broken into pieces, the only way your body loses heat in vacuum is through radiation, and that's slow. 3 minutes is cold water does more damage to you that 30 minutes in space. You'd suffocate in like 3-5 minutes before the vacuum and the coldness of space could do serious damage to your body. Physics >>> movie physics.

Wait are you saying it's really possible to last 3-5 minutes in space? I thought you'd freeze to death right away. If so then maybe that scene isn't as impossible as everyone thinks.

[Oscirus]

It was a direct hit to the bridge where everyone else died. If that isn't enough, she is floating in space...with no suit or anything. Also, she has a connection to the force, but it's not as strong as Lukes AND it was completely out of the blue.

It was a stupid scene, but the floating in space cliché was beat in people's heads by Hollywood so much, they don't even think it can be bogus. You can float in space without a suit, the vacuum won't kill you, it's just 1 atmosphere. Your body can take that and laugh (you don't see divers imploding 10 meters deep don't you?) OK, it would hurt, but won't kill you right away. You also wouldn't instantly freeze to death and broken into pieces, the only way your body loses heat in vacuum is through radiation, and that's slow. 3 minutes is cold water does more damage to you that 30 minutes in space. You'd suffocate in like 3-5 minutes before the vacuum and the coldness of space could do serious damage to your body. Physics >>> movie physics.

Wait are you saying it's really possible to last 3-5 minutes in space? I thought you'd freeze to death right away. If so then maybe that scene isn't as impossible as everyone thinks.

30 seconds.

Watch on YouTube

ff to the end.

[gavran]

It was a direct hit to the bridge where everyone else died. If that isn't enough, she is floating in space...with no suit or anything. Also, she has a connection to the force, but it's not as strong as Lukes AND it was completely out of the blue.

It was a stupid scene, but the floating in space cliché was beat in people's heads by Hollywood so much, they don't even think it can be bogus. You can float in space without a suit, the vacuum won't kill you, it's just 1 atmosphere. Your body can take that and laugh (you don't see divers imploding 10 meters deep don't you?) OK, it would hurt, but won't kill you right away. You also wouldn't instantly freeze to death and broken into pieces, the only way your body loses heat in vacuum is through radiation, and that's slow. 3 minutes is cold water does more damage to you that 30 minutes in space. You'd suffocate in like 3-5 minutes before the vacuum and the coldness of space could do serious damage to your body. Physics >>> movie physics.

Wait are you saying it's really possible to last 3-5 minutes in space? I thought you'd freeze to death right away. If so then maybe that scene isn't as impossible as everyone thinks.

You wouldn't freeze to death right away, the only way you could lose heat is space is through radiation, and that's the slowest method. It would take up to 45 minutes in vacuum to lose enough heat for you to die. Obviously you would die sooner from suffocation and space radiation. If you face the Sun, you'd actually be fried instead of frozen.