The MeloPause Trade Thread

Post #621 » by **King of Canada** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:44 pm

lol Melo is Dismayed. So are we fool!!!

Huey Freeman · Post #622 » by **Huey Freeman** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:45 pm

Crunchknicks1 wrote:Trade him to Houston already. He just wants to win. He lost his wife she posting picks. He got boo at the garden. He took shoots from phil all year. He got a stripper pregnant. He lost the last 4 years. Now he was told they trading him to Houston he looking for homes and we change our mind. It's not right I understand we need the best deal sonhold out for that but trade him once we find a ok deal.

He did that s*** to himself, that is not NYK's responsibility to make sure Melo respects his marriage and wife.

And the Knicks are doing what's best for THEM, as Melo is trying to do the best for Melo. Yes, he has a NTC but NYK has a right to get a decent package IN THEIR EYES, not the fans or reporters.

He's going to have to expand his teams of choice to be traded to because this is not the "New York Melos".

newyorker4ever · Post #623 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:45 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
levendis wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

Him giving out a NTC and Melos declining play destroyed Melos value. Just stop man

Should I post this again for the 100000th time for the anti Melo Club?

NBA execs reportedly say Phil Jackson is destroying Carmelo Anthony's trade value

Though anonymously, NBA executives said as much to the New York Daily News on Sunday:
"Phil made a statement basically that Carmelo's a losing type of player. Well, if he's a loser for the Knicks, he's going to be a winner someplace else? That obviously didn't help," one Eastern Conference executive said.

"Tremendously," another exec said when asked how much Jackson may have damaged Anthony's trade value. "He essentially said, 'I want to dump this guy.' "

As one Eastern Conference front office member noted, teams are just not willing to give up major pieces after all the talking Jackson has done.
"Most owners would just roast you if you said something like that," the Eastern exec said, theorizing the return for Anthony could be "a protected first-round pick. It sure sounds like the Knicks want to get rid of him, so teams won't give up any of their core to add him. That would be defeating the purpose."

Facts ON Facts

Go leave with phil jackson.

You think those are facts?? The good ole unnamed sources are facts?? Como on now, you should know by now to not listen to the media and their stories when they're just looking to stir things up especially the new york media.

Crunchknicks1 · Post #624 » by **Crunchknicks1** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:46 pm

We can't do this to people. This is why no one wants to play for us and free agents don't wanna come. You thank Prozingis not watching this. I mean we have to treat people better. If we want to attack good players going forward.

Knicks93 · Post #625 » by **Knicks93** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:48 pm

Crunchknicks1 wrote:We can't do this to people. This is why no one wants to play for us and free agents don't wanna come. You thank Prozingis not watching this. I mean we have to treat people better. If we want to attack good players going forward.

Get out of here. No team in the NBA is taking a bad deal just to please a player. If melo wants to be in Houston, get them to give up some real assets

Post #626 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:48 pm

Oh good lord. Somebody call a waaaahmbulance full of tiny violins.

rajajackal · Post #627 » by **rajajackal** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:49 pm

we put trade talks on hold while we're hiring a new GM/the proposed return is insufficient, and somehow isola manages to spin it as negative by making it about melo's 'dismay'. slippery little f***er lol

Greenie · Post #628 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:49 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
levendis wrote:
Him giving out a NTC and Melos declining play destroyed Melos value. Just stop man

Should I post this again for the 100000th time for the anti Melo Club?

NBA execs reportedly say Phil Jackson is destroying Carmelo Anthony's trade value

Though anonymously, NBA executives said as much to the New York Daily News on Sunday:
"Phil made a statement basically that Carmelo's a losing type of player. Well, if he's a loser for the Knicks, he's going to be a winner someplace else? That obviously didn't help," one Eastern Conference executive said.

"Tremendously," another exec said when asked how much Jackson may have damaged Anthony's trade value. "He essentially said, 'I want to dump this guy.' "

As one Eastern Conference front office member noted, teams are just not willing to give up major pieces after all the talking Jackson has done.
"Most owners would just roast you if you said something like that," the Eastern exec said, theorizing the return for Anthony could be "a protected first-round pick. It sure sounds like the Knicks want to get rid of him, so teams won't give up any of their core to add him. That would be defeating the purpose."

Facts ON Facts

Go leave with phil jackson.

You think those are facts?? The good ole unnamed sources are facts?? Como on now, you should know by now to not listen to the media and their stories when they're just looking to stir things up especially the new york media.

It's common sense though. If you publicly don't value something why should I give you something of value to take it from you?

Why?

WHY?

Appleshampoo · Post #629 » by **Appleshampoo** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:50 pm

Crunchknicks1 wrote:We can't do this to people. This is why no one wants to play for us and free agents don't wanna come. You thank Prozingis not watching this. I mean we have to treat people better. If we want to attack good players going forward.

Good organizations don't trade a valuable player for garbage just cause they want to have a press coconference with their friend. Negotiate from a position of strength. Lakers didn't trade Kobe when he asked for a trade just to appease him and he won championships.

Huey Freeman · Post #630 » by **Huey Freeman** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:50 pm

Crunchknicks1 wrote:We can't do this to people. This is why no one wants to play for us and free agents don't wanna come. You thank Prozingis not watching this. I mean we have to treat people better. If we want to attack good players going forward.

How are we mistreating him now? By not wanting to be in a worse position as an organization just so HE can be in a better situation?

Once we build through youth and the draft that "FAs not signing here" s*** will be deafened in a few years because money still rules NBA. KP is locked up for a few years, if we are turning the corner and building the right way then this summer won't affect him re-signing for SuperMax when that time comes. Its a business.

Greenie · Post #631 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:53 pm

Crunchknicks1 wrote:We can't do this to people. This is why no one wants to play for us and free agents don't wanna come. You thank Prozingis not watching this. I mean we have to treat people better. If we want to attack good players going forward.

Melo is under contract. We don't have to trade him if we get nothing of substance in return.

We fuqed up by allowing Phil to **** on Melo publicly for the past 3 years and treating him as if he was all that was wrong with the team.

Not trading him for trash or giving him money to walk is nowhere in that stratosphere.

Handledatruth · Post #632 » by **Handledatruth** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:55 pm

ozwizard8 wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
Jay10 wrote:The victim card is currently being played by Carmelo's side.

He's excited to have a chance at a championship with the Rockets, and now the Knicks have put a pause on trade conversations.

@ the way sports media works

Of course he is frustrated, anybody would be, but let's not try to pretend he's initiating this attention. Did Melo outright demand a trade this offseason or did someone spend a decent portion of his few press conferences confirming that the Knicks wanted to move on from Melo? We could have just been like any other franchise and kept Melo until we were ready to trade him while shutting TF up. But no, we decide it was a better idea to publicly put our best player on the trade market...fcking Phil. How's that goink?

Phil Jackson already did that.
I cant blame rest of the organization for this.

I dont care how much Melo's worth at this point.
We dont need to trade him for Ryan Anderson contract.
Yea maybe contender teams arent willing to give valueable assets. Thats not our problem. I dont care about Houston/Cavs or Melo's interest.
If Melo wants to go he can next offseason. I dont see a point to take any bad contracts back.

I'm not advocating either way. I honestly don't care what happens, the Knicks are going to be a better team next year with or without him. But if he's on this team come the beginning of this season, they need to kill the media drama and make peace with the current situation. Otherwise get the damn trade done without all the noise. Letting the media (or Melo's team according to some on here) point fingers only leads to a toxic MSG come opening day. Notice how fast Doc Rivers killed the mess about Chris Paul when he got traded. It just takes a couple of statements to shut these guys up.

ropjhk · Post #633 » by **ropjhk** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:56 pm

Pausing the trade is not necessarily a bad move for the Knicks. If it gets Melo to accept an expansion of trade destinations the decision to not trade with Houston right now will be worth it. Houston should improve their offer in an attempt to secure Melo now since this whole Melodrama could become a distraction for their team as well.

Huey Freeman · Post #634 » by **Huey Freeman** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:56 pm

If Melo winds up staying in NYK then he will be alright once training camp starts. He's just going to need time to process and relax. He'll be a professional once the season starts.

MaseInYourFace · Post #635 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:57 pm

I think Melo is dismayed after seeing those Lala on a boat pics.

newyorker4ever · Post #636 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:57 pm

Greenie wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Should I post this again for the 100000th time for the anti Melo Club?

Facts ON Facts

Go leave with phil jackson.

You think those are facts?? The good ole unnamed sources are facts?? Como on now, you should know by now to not listen to the media and their stories when they're just looking to stir things up especially the new york media.

It's common sense though. If you publicly don't value something why should I give you something of value to take it from you?

Why?

WHY?

Because he's Carmelo Anthony and still a top 8 player offensively in the NBA which means he has value.

Crunchknicks1 · Post #637 » by **Crunchknicks1** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:57 pm

It's treating him bad by telling we trading him then don't. Had the man looking for houses in Houston. Had him telling people etc. we should have said we will trade you if we get a good return. Something like that. B

F N 11 · Post #638 » by **F N 11** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:59 pm

We got out gm for cash and a 2019 second round pick. We live. We got our new gm. Keep it moving.

Juco24 · Post #639 » by **Juco24** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:00 pm

[/quote]

[b]I'm not advocating either way. I honestly don't care what happens, the Knicks are going to be a better team next year with or without him. [b]But if he's on this team come the beginning of this season, they need to kill the media drama and make peace with the current situation. Otherwise get the damn trade done without all the noise. Letting the media (or Melo's team according to some on here) point fingers only leads to a toxic MSG come opening day.[/b][/b] Notice how fast Doc Rivers killed the mess about Chris Paul when he got traded. It just takes a couple of statements to shut these guys up.[/quote]

This should be posted on billboards!!!

ropjhk · Post #640 » by **ropjhk** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:01 pm

Crunchknicks1 wrote:We can't do this to people. This is why no one wants to play for us and free agents don't wanna come. You thank Prozingis not watching this. I mean we have to treat people better. If we want to attack good players going forward.

Pleasing potential free agents shouldn't be the priority for the Knicks. Rebuilding through free agency will be a disaster so long as Dolan is the owner. Trade Melo for draft picks and/or players who can still be in the rotation 3-5 years from now. Commit to a rebuilding process.