Jalen Bluntson wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Crossing the border illegally is a crime for one thing. Committing rapes/murders etc should immediately exclude your rights to being here even if you served time. If there's nowhere to send you, too bad for you. There's levels to this obviously but, where is the line drawn? It's not crazy to see why people have issues with this.
The political games played are a big problem too. Instead of packing the supreme court... perhaps Donald should have appointed more judges etc to handle the backlogs of applications for asylum.
The Democrats shouldn't be against building a wall/securing the border as much as they seem to have been either Neither side makes any sense of the problem.
It's like they don't even know how to solve the problems so they toss the hot potato back and forth. Dividing the country over a problem they never seem to come close to solving.
Wanting to vet people who come here seeking asylum, which is like a legal act, let's keep that in mind, is fine. I don't think anyone is calling for just letting anyone in without going through the proper process, or that we should allow violent criminals in other country to run around with impunity.
However, Biden and the Democrats were ready to pass a comprehensive immigration bill that would have locked the border down among other things and the House Republicans were instructed by Trump, a private citizen, to deep six the legislation did it. And based on the fact that people are still pointing at Democrats over this says to me that Trump's plan worked to perfection.
There is one side that continues to scream about immigration but hamper any attempts to do something about it. That's why it's maddening when people invoke "both sides" on this. The GOP continues to stall and break everything and somehow the blame gets shared.
I'm talking about criminals caught here and being released here. Real criminals. Not jaywalkers. That's insanity. That's what pisses people off.
That bill was only recently. What about the previous 3 years? It's absolutely both sides. It's been both sides for generations bro. We really haven't figured this out after how many years? Let's be honest here.
Also, I'm not talking about the politicians or their opinions or actions entirely. People are not happy. IDC who's to blame for the problem. No one is fixing it. This time Trump has his hands dirty but, what was the problem the previous years/decades? Trump didn't cause these issues. No one fixes it. Ever. If that bill is really the solution, then hopefully Harris wins and can get it passed. Not sure what that bill does to address the hard core criminals that are already here though or any that come through legally or illegally. Which is something most people care about anyway.
I understand your frustration, but trying to frame immigration reform failure as a both sides issue is just not true at all and it gives the Republicans a pass when they're the ones who are always impeding progress, and always on the wrong side of history.
This isn't the first time Republicans have screwed bipartisan legislation to address immigration, the John Boehner led Republican House did the same thing in 2013 when Obama was in office when the Senate Gang of 8 worked on and passed Bill S.744
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigration_Modernization_Act_of_2013The Republican Speaker of the House tabled the bill and it died on the house floor, just like the bill did this year.
This is why political discourse in the US is so frustrating. The GOP has been acting in bad faith for decades and screw things up, and then the public doesn't place blame where it belongs and we repeat the same song and dance. This is like people thinking that Trump is good for the economy when he took Obama's economy, passed a bunch of ill advised tax cuts for the wealthy, let Covid run wild which caused a ton of issues, and then everyone blamed Joe Biden after a year when the check came due for everything and prices skyrocketed.
Anything that will progress America forward in a positive, constructive manner is always being derailed by these jerk offs. This is why I cannot co sign the both sides narrative. It's allowing the real perpetrators to get away with murder while holding Democrats to account even though they have been willing to work on ways to fix problems.
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