OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

[Stannis]

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[MrDollarBills]

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Is this true? If so, the orange dotard has gone mental because he also is trying to sue PA for voter fraud or some crap because apparently the internal polling his campaign is showing for PA is horrible

[Capn'O]

Count me in on not buying the ACA stuff from Trump. In 2016 he campaigned hard on "We've Got A New and Better Health Care System That's Also Cheaper And You'll Love It It's So Great But I Can't Tell You About Any Details About It." Then he sort of mumbled those words then slowly backed away from the microphone once in office. So he has that again? K...

[Pointgod]

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[ScienceOfLosing]

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This is accurate about the Conservative media. Everyone that participated in the big lie should be shunned from society

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Imagine this level of stupidity as an upgrade from Trump.

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[Rich Rane]

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[DOT]

So about those early votes in PA:



I did the math

There are approximately 110,000 more Republicans who switched from election day voting to early voting than Dems if this number is right

Obviously, early voting turnout is much lower overall this year than 4 years ago (2.6 million voted early in 2020 to 1.6 million so far this year), but if we're talking firewall, that 110,000 vote difference is gonna have a factor when you look at election day turnout.

[HarthorneWingo]

In 1968 when VP Humphrey ran against Nixon, he initially refused to break with LBJ over the Vietnam War. Humphrey was getting walloped in the polls until he came out against the War a week before Election Day and he poll numbers shot up. He ended up losing by half a point.

Those who don’t know their history are bound to repeat it.

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Love Aubrey Plaza.

[MrDollarBills]

Count me in on not buying the ACA stuff from Trump. In 2016 he campaigned hard on "We've Got A New and Better Health Care System That's Also Cheaper And You'll Love It It's So Great But I Can't Tell You About Any Details About It." Then he sort of mumbled those words then slowly backed away from the microphone once in office. So he has that again? K...

He has the concept of a plan. Whatever that means.

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Imagine this level of stupidity as an upgrade from Trump.

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[DOT]

Count me in on not buying the ACA stuff from Trump. In 2016 he campaigned hard on "We've Got A New and Better Health Care System That's Also Cheaper And You'll Love It It's So Great But I Can't Tell You About Any Details About It." Then he sort of mumbled those words then slowly backed away from the microphone once in office. So he has that again? K...

He has the concept of a plan. Whatever that means.

This is where any semblance of the "reasonable" Republican Trump voter loses me

This motherf*cker ran on Repeal and Replace almost a decade ago, and almost did repeal if not for John McCain. And you're telling me, that 7 years after the repeal part of his plan was in effect, he only has "concepts of a plan" for the replace part?

What a f*ckin' joke.

[Clyde_Style]

I'm sorry but it's hilarious to see the f*ck your feelings crowd who has no problem saying all this racist, nasty sh*t about minorities and LGBTQ people clutching their pearls after the guy they've been saying "Let's Go Brandon!" to the last 4 years tells them that they're garbage.

If you watched the World Series last night like I did, you were bombarded with endless Trump campaign commercials that were absolutely racist and bigoted non stop.

F*ck them

They're snowflakes.

They'll spread violent, racist, misogynist lies but when told that that makes them promoters of racism, misogyny and violence they cry that we're being mean to them. They love to pretend they're being civil because they didn't call you a name, but there is nothing civil about trolling online spreading an ideology of hate. If you spew intolerant Nazi memes then quit whining when people don't want to tolerate your BS.

Everyone here is online and has full access to information. There's a big difference between the liars posting their swill here and people who don't indulge in our little social media and forum posting hobbies. If you're posting political content in here and you're posting MAGA lies then you're a Nazi. You have no excuse because plenty of people in here point out where you are lying yet you persist. That persistence in continuing to spread lies that promote the fascists means the MAGA posting in here are Nazis.

[HarthorneWingo]

Count me in on not buying the ACA stuff from Trump. In 2016 he campaigned hard on "We've Got A New and Better Health Care System That's Also Cheaper And You'll Love It It's So Great But I Can't Tell You About Any Details About It." Then he sort of mumbled those words then slowly backed away from the microphone once in office. So he has that again? K...

He has the concept of a plan. Whatever that means.

It means he’s got dick.

[Pointgod]

Count me in on not buying the ACA stuff from Trump. In 2016 he campaigned hard on "We've Got A New and Better Health Care System That's Also Cheaper And You'll Love It It's So Great But I Can't Tell You About Any Details About It." Then he sort of mumbled those words then slowly backed away from the microphone once in office. So he has that again? K...

He has the concept of a plan. Whatever that means.

This is where any semblance of the "reasonable" Republican Trump voter loses me

This motherf*cker ran on Repeal and Replace almost a decade ago, and almost did repeal if not for John McCain. And you're telling me, that 7 years after the repeal part of his plan was in effect, he only has "concepts of a plan" for the replace part?

What a f*ckin' joke.

To be a Trump supporter means to live in contradictions. The guys is objectively a disaster as a President and human being. Trump supporters are too chicken **** to admit why they really support him so they’ll never admit that he failed based on the same standards that they set for him. They’ll simultaneously say he got the most things done as President and also claim the deep state kept him from doing anything as President….

[Clyde_Style]

He shouldn't say it, but after last weekend, I don't care. He's telling the truth.

He can think it, but he shouldn't say it.

a) The president is the president for the whole country, not for his party. You know...don't act like Trump.

b) Harris is running for president, not Biden. Biden injected himself into the campaign, only in a stupid, f*cked up way. It's beyond ret*rded.

c) I get he was trying to say something like "Any of Trump's followers who appreciate racist jokes are the garbage" but he's too addled to communicate correctly. Someone should have talked him out of it, taken the script from his hands, whatever.

d) Harris and the democrats were occupying the moral high ground and the negative story was dominating the news cycle; then Biden undid that. Dumb as f*ck.

*The only possible good thing is that while trump leans in the "garbage man" thing to "own the libs", it's a reminder of the stupid event/comedian (that his campaign vetted, to include the entire routine), so I guess there's that.
Any benefit of that might be offset by Trump using this to invigorate his base and getting a few thousand more voters out.
In an election where some states might get decided by a less than 10,000 votes, not the brightest idea.

Then you got Wild Bill Clinton alienating muslims in the largest muslim population state, Michigan. Awesome move. Watch Trump win Michigan.

I agree that he shouldn't have said it but I'll be honest with you, Trump and his cult have been degrading Americans and this country for almost a decade now and for me personally, I'm glad to see the President of the United States actually stand up for American citizens who are on the receiving end of this. Because no one else was going to do it.

Why is it that Biden and Harris have to be cordial and perfect with these people? If someone who was leaning Dem votes for Trump or stays home because Biden told these sh*theads what they are, they probably weren't voting for Harris anyway.

I'm sick of the double standards. Ohh Biden called MAGAs garbage. Trump literally said Haitans eat cats and dogs. You don't fight nazis with kindness and appeasement. Dems actually gained ground when Harris and Walz started fighting back. The time to worry about decorum ended on January 6th 2021 when these guys showed their asses.

Regarding Bill...he needs to be shunned from the party because he's a sexual predator on top of saying something idiotic now.

You're both right.

Biden is not wrong, but he shouldn't have given the media a chance to change the narrative away from Trump's rally disaster.

You're right because the MSM is mostly FOS and not journalists, but sensationalists who gloss over almost anything bad for Trump just to keep their favorite money maker in the mix.

Buzz is right for the exact same reason.

The time for Biden to speak that way has passed. He should get out of the way this close to the election. Let Barrack and Michelle carry the load.

[Clyde_Style]

Wow The Economist, which I'd grade pretty hard center-right as a financial publication, just endorsed Kamala

A second Trump term comes with unacceptable risks

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/10/31/a-second-trump-term-comes-with-unacceptable-risks

By making Mr Trump leader of the free world, Americans would be gambling with the economy, the rule of law and international peace. We cannot quantify the chance that something will go badly wrong: nobody can. But we believe voters who minimise it are deluding themselves.

The case against Mr Trump begins with his policies. In 2016 the Republican platform was still caught between the Mitt Romney party and the Trump party. Today’s version is more extreme. Mr Trump favours a 20% tariff on all imports and has talked of charging over 200% or even 500% on cars from Mexico. He proposes to deport millions of irregular immigrants, many with jobs and American children. He would extend tax cuts even though the budget deficit is at a level usually seen only during war or recession, suggesting a blithe indifference to sound fiscal management.

The risks for domestic and foreign policy are amplified by the last big difference between Mr Trump’s first term and a possible second one: he would be less constrained. The president who mused about firing missiles at drug labs in Mexico was held back by the people and institutions around him. Since then the Republican Party has organised itself around fealty to Mr Trump. Friendly think-tanks have vetted lists of loyal people to serve in the next administration. The Supreme Court has weakened the checks on presidents by ruling that they cannot be prosecuted for official acts.

If external constraints are looser, much more will depend on Mr Trump’s character. Given his unrepentant contempt for the constitution after losing the election in 2020, it is hard to be optimistic. Half his former cabinet members have refused to endorse him. The most senior Republican senator describes him as a “despicable human being”. Both his former chief-of-staff and former head of the joint chiefs call him a fascist. If you were interviewing a job applicant, you would not brush off such character references.

Yep. I can even ignore the last paragraph. What I'm mostly worried about is what he plans to do to the economy (I disagree with what he wants to do).

What is so insane about anybody choosing Trump because of the cost of living is he'll turbocharge inflation with his tariff scheme. It will bloat prices on most goods to ridiculous heights. I don't think Trump even understands what it means he's so incredibly stupid, not to mention his followers who believe he is a successful businessman who's better at economics. It boggles the mind how counter to their interests people vote.