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Post#641 » by richardhutnik » Thu Nov 4, 2010 11:06 pm

This thread is now getting close to becoming political. It made me tempted to post the trailer to "Fair Game" on the Plame leak. The Plame case is an excellent example of people being partisans. There are individuals all over Obama for supposedly making America less safe, and also doing nefarious plots, who defended what happened with the Plame leak and attempted to explain it away.

Anyhow, I will let you get back to science and philosophy.

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Post#642 » by Marty McFly » Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:31 pm

NASA's Fermi Telescope Finds Giant Structure in our Galaxy

Using data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, scientists have recently discovered a gigantic, mysterious structure in our galaxy. This feature looks like a pair of bubbles extending above and below our galaxy's center. Each lobe is 25,000 light-years tall and the whole structure may be only a few million years old. (Video credit: NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center)



http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST ... cture.html

there are pictures i the link.
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Post#643 » by magnumt » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:03 pm

REVOLVER wrote:NASA's Fermi Telescope Finds Giant Structure in our Galaxy

Using data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, scientists have recently discovered a gigantic, mysterious structure in our galaxy. This feature looks like a pair of bubbles extending above and below our galaxy's center. Each lobe is 25,000 light-years tall and the whole structure may be only a few million years old. (Video credit: NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center)



http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST ... cture.html

there are pictures i the link.


Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice find.

Supposedly we have a Supermassive Black Hole at the center of our Galaxy and many think that most Galaxies have one as well. This could be a by-product of that.

Who knows what new things we'll find in the next 30-50 Years in the Universe that were always there with more powerful imaging and scanning tools.
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Post#644 » by Marty McFly » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:31 pm

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MEDIA ADVISORY : M10-157


NASA Announces Televised Chandra News Conference


WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a news conference at 12:30 p.m. EST on Monday, Nov. 15, to discuss the Chandra X-ray Observatory's discovery of an exceptional object in our cosmic neighborhood.

The news conference will originate from NASA Headquarters' television studio, 300 E St. SW in Washington and carried live on NASA TV.

Media representatives may attend the conference, join by phone or ask questions from participating NASA locations. To RSVP or obtain dial-in information, journalists must send their name, affiliation and telephone number to Trent Perrotto at: trent.j.perrotto@nasa.gov by 10 a.m. EST on Nov. 15. Reporters wishing to attend the conference in-person must have a valid press credential for access. Non-U.S. media also must bring passports.

Scientists involved in the research will be available to answer questions. Panelists providing analysis of the research include:
- Jon Morse, director, Astrophysics Division, NASA Headquarters in Washington
- Kimberly Weaver, astrophysicist, NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
- Alex Filippenko, astrophysicist, University of California, Berkeley

For NASA TV streaming video, downlink and further information, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For more information about NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/chandra

http://chandra.harvard.edu


http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/no ... pdate.html

i wonder what it could be?
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Post#645 » by magnumt » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:17 am

^Isn't re: the same news you posted in your earlier post about the large "orbs" at the center of our Galaxy?
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Post#646 » by Marty McFly » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:35 am

magnumt wrote:^Isn't re: the same news you posted in your earlier post about the large "orbs" at the center of our Galaxy?


the first news was from the fermi telescope, the second was from Chandra X-ray Observatory, so since they didn't allude to the former news, i wouldn't think so.
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Post#647 » by magnumt » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:59 pm

Alright, keep us Updated.

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Post#648 » by Knicksfan20 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:16 pm

What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.
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Post#649 » by Marty McFly » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:23 pm

magnumt wrote:Alright, keep us Updated.

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NASA's Chandra Finds Youngest Nearby Black Hole
11.15.10

Composite image shows a supernova within the galaxy M100 Composite image shows a supernova within the galaxy M100. Credits: X-ray: NASA/CXC/SAO/D.Patnaude et al, Optical: ESO/VLT, Infrared: NASA/JPL/Caltech
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View animation Astronomers using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory have found evidence of the youngest black hole known to exist in our cosmic neighborhood. The 30-year-old black hole provides a unique opportunity to watch this type of object develop from infancy.

The black hole could help scientists better understand how massive stars explode, which ones leave behind black holes or neutron stars, and the number of black holes in our galaxy and others.

The object is a remnant of SN 1979C, a supernova in the galaxy M100 approximately 50 million light years from Earth. Even though the light from the supernova took this long to reach Chandra, researchers see the object as it appeared when it was just 30-years-old. A helpful analogy is to imagine taking a picture of a baby and mailing across oceans. No matter how long it took to receive the picture, you would still see the image of a baby.


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... 0-299.html
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Post#650 » by Ignitowsky » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:28 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.

No one would have guessed :D

that would be billions of years btw, not just millions. This thread, above all, demands accuracy
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Post#651 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:39 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.


Evolution.

This is an awesome video....especially after a few hits

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl89HIJ6HDo[/youtube]

But maybe aliens came around a few billion years ago, sprinkled some ingredients and started the party on earth
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Post#652 » by Neb » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:17 pm

Anyone else gonna watch this?

NASA Sets News Conference on Astrobiology Discovery; Science Journal Has Embargoed Details Until 2 p.m. EST On Dec. 2

WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a news conference at 2 p.m. EST on Thursday, Dec. 2, to discuss an astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life in the universe.


http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/no ... ology.html
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Post#653 » by magnumt » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:25 pm

REVOLVER wrote:
magnumt wrote:Alright, keep us Updated.

--Mags


NASA's Chandra Finds Youngest Nearby Black Hole
11.15.10

Composite image shows a supernova within the galaxy M100 Composite image shows a supernova within the galaxy M100. Credits: X-ray: NASA/CXC/SAO/D.Patnaude et al, Optical: ESO/VLT, Infrared: NASA/JPL/Caltech
View large image
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The black hole could help scientists better understand how massive stars explode, which ones leave behind black holes or neutron stars, and the number of black holes in our galaxy and others.

The object is a remnant of SN 1979C, a supernova in the galaxy M100 approximately 50 million light years from Earth. Even though the light from the supernova took this long to reach Chandra, researchers see the object as it appeared when it was just 30-years-old. A helpful analogy is to imagine taking a picture of a baby and mailing across oceans. No matter how long it took to receive the picture, you would still see the image of a baby.


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... 0-299.html


Good stuff bro, thanks.

Knicksfan20 wrote:What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.


That's how Stargate made its "Millions." :P

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Post#654 » by Jitpal » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:46 pm

magnumt wrote:
REVOLVER wrote:
magnumt wrote:Alright, keep us Updated.

--Mags


NASA's Chandra Finds Youngest Nearby Black Hole
11.15.10

Composite image shows a supernova within the galaxy M100 Composite image shows a supernova within the galaxy M100. Credits: X-ray: NASA/CXC/SAO/D.Patnaude et al, Optical: ESO/VLT, Infrared: NASA/JPL/Caltech
View large image
View animation Astronomers using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory have found evidence of the youngest black hole known to exist in our cosmic neighborhood. The 30-year-old black hole provides a unique opportunity to watch this type of object develop from infancy.

The black hole could help scientists better understand how massive stars explode, which ones leave behind black holes or neutron stars, and the number of black holes in our galaxy and others.

The object is a remnant of SN 1979C, a supernova in the galaxy M100 approximately 50 million light years from Earth. Even though the light from the supernova took this long to reach Chandra, researchers see the object as it appeared when it was just 30-years-old. A helpful analogy is to imagine taking a picture of a baby and mailing across oceans. No matter how long it took to receive the picture, you would still see the image of a baby.


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... 0-299.html


Good stuff bro, thanks.

Knicksfan20 wrote:What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.


That's how Stargate made its "Millions." :P

--Mags


Edit: SPOILERS BELOW /edit


Technically, humans from Earth were from Earth, the ones on the other planets were kidnapped from Earth and taken elsewhere. However, I suppose you could say the humans on earth, weren't there to begin with and were seeded and cultivated as life by the Ancients. I think that's what they said happened. I saw all of Stargate at one time so it's kind of a blur as to what was what. -Jitpal
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Post#655 » by TheBigBoss » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:09 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.



Well according to that Annaki stuff that I started the thread with, supposedly they came to earth and genetically engineered human beings using their DNA along with the Neanderthal/Cro-Magnon/pre-human beings that were already inhabiting the planet.
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Post#656 » by magnumt » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:14 pm

Jitpal wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:What if we are Aliens?

Earth has been around millions of years. For all those years the planet had Dinosaurs and other Animals. (Lions, Pandas, Wolves, Birds etc) What if thats all the Earth consisted of at one point? And then humans came and took over.

PS: I am posting under the influence of Marijuana.


That's how Stargate made its "Millions." :P

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Edit: SPOILERS BELOW /edit


Technically, humans from Earth were from Earth, the ones on the other planets were kidnapped from Earth and taken elsewhere. However, I suppose you could say the humans on earth, weren't there to begin with and were seeded and cultivated as life by the Ancients. I think that's what they said happened. I saw all of Stargate at one time so it's kind of a blur as to what was what. -Jitpal


The humans on Earth within the Stargate Franchise are the second evolutionary descendants of the Ancients (Alterrans) who arrived from Atlantis (which was their 2nd time on Earth, since in the 1st they had departed for the Pegasus Galaxy to get away from the Plague).

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Post#657 » by gavran » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:19 pm

magnumt wrote:
Jitpal wrote:
magnumt wrote:
That's how Stargate made its "Millions." :P

--Mags


Edit: SPOILERS BELOW /edit


Technically, humans from Earth were from Earth, the ones on the other planets were kidnapped from Earth and taken elsewhere. However, I suppose you could say the humans on earth, weren't there to begin with and were seeded and cultivated as life by the Ancients. I think that's what they said happened. I saw all of Stargate at one time so it's kind of a blur as to what was what. -Jitpal


The humans on Earth within the Stargate Franchise are the second evolutionary descendants of the Ancients (Alterrans) who arrived from Atlantis (which was their 2nd time on Earth, since in the 1st they had departed for the Pegasus Galaxy to get away from the Plague).

--Mags

Yeah, in the series, but not in the original movie.
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Post#658 » by magnumt » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:25 pm

gavran wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Jitpal wrote:Edit: SPOILERS BELOW /edit


Technically, humans from Earth were from Earth, the ones on the other planets were kidnapped from Earth and taken elsewhere. However, I suppose you could say the humans on earth, weren't there to begin with and were seeded and cultivated as life by the Ancients. I think that's what they said happened. I saw all of Stargate at one time so it's kind of a blur as to what was what. -Jitpal


The humans on Earth within the Stargate Franchise are the second evolutionary descendants of the Ancients (Alterrans) who arrived from Atlantis (which was their 2nd time on Earth, since in the 1st they had departed for the Pegasus Galaxy to get away from the Plague).

--Mags


Yeah, in the series, but not in the original movie.


The '94 Movie didn't advance that far in terms of plot. In fact, it wasn't until later in SG1 itself that they explored the Ancients further, and not until SGA that they discovered the truth about their return to Earth ("Before I Sleep"), and during that Series learned the Ancients' names were Alterran.

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Post#659 » by Knicksfan20 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:37 pm

So wait...There are acually theorys about us being decendants from aliens? Or that we were enginered by aliens?

Now im really confused!!!!!
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Post#660 » by richardhutnik » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:51 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:So wait...There are acually theorys about us being decendants from aliens? Or that we were enginered by aliens?

Now im really confused!!!!!


How can one detect if human life was engineered. If Intelligent Design is said not to be science, and its main claim is you can detect design/engineering, then how is one going to go about detecting whether human life was engineered? You can't suddenly flip-flop and go, "Well, since we are talking aliens it is different. So long as the engineer was a god, we can't take it seriously". Well, we have no evidence intelligent life exists anywhere else in this universe, let alone they would come all this way just to plant life here. If you can't project human behavior as a cover all for all possibilities of intelligence, you can project what humans are on other possible alien species.

I am leaning towards the belief that the belief in extraterrestrials is a religious belief system that gained grown in the 20th century.

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