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Towns or Okafor or Mudiay or Russel?

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Who do you go with?

Towns
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43%
Okafur
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Mudiay
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8%
Russel
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13%
 
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Re: Towns or Okafor or Mudiay or Russel? 

Post#641 » by Workforce250 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:40 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
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Manhattan Project wrote:
At the end of the day the composite board would look like

Okafor
Towns
Mudiay
Russell


Honestly Towns is falling rapidly in many mock drafts. How Kaminsky is not top 10 is ridiculous.

Maybe he is top 10 in the eyes of the real scouts/GM's? It's not like the draft ever falls the way fans and writers or so called experts say it will.



True. This kid Kaminsky is similar to Bargs so a fit here is off. But in the games Ive seen, the kid looks heads above everyone else on the floor.
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Post#642 » by Manhattan Project » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:Maybe he is top 10 in the eyes of the real scouts/GM's? It's not like the draft ever falls the way fans and writers or so called experts say it will.


Here is a list of the seniors taken first in the draft which Frank will be, flattering class.
11th pick Doug McDermott.
10th pick CJ McCollum.
19th pick Andrew Nicholson.
10th Pick Jimmer Fredette.
23rd pick Trevor Booker.
11th pick Terrence Williams.
12th pick Jason Thompson.
11th pick Acie Law.
5th pick Shelden Williams.
8th pick Channing Frye.

I mean the numbers for seniors blossoming into even an all star player in the NBA are slim to nil. Here is a list of seniors in the past ten years that have actually proven something in the NBA.

Mason Plumlee
Draymond Green
Kenneth Faried
Jimmy Butler
Chandler Parsons
Darren Collison
Danny Green
Roy Hibbert
David Lee
Danny Granger
Brandon Roy

If you're comfortable taking Kaminsky with a top four pick, god bless you. All I know is that I'm not touching Kaminsky in the lottery, nothing about his game excites me translating to the NBA.
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Post#643 » by riter » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:56 am

Towns. it's not just the 19pts 10rbs 4blks 2asts(should of been more)--it's the way he plays--smooth and effortlessly.
He was born to play the triangle.
Great touch on passes and his shot.
He's just a little light in the azz---but he's huge and you can tell he'll fill out.
I just don't see Phil picking Okafor over him--yeah, he's more nba ready in terms of scoring, but Towns ceiling is ridiculous.
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Post#644 » by DickGrayson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:07 am

riter wrote:Towns. it's not just the 19pts 10rbs 4blks 2asts(should of been more)--it's the way he plays--smooth and effortlessly.
He was born to play the triangle.
Great touch on passes and his shot.
He's just a little light in the azz---but he's huge and you can tell he'll fill out.
I just don't see Phil picking Okafor over him--yeah, he's more nba ready in terms of scoring, but Towns ceiling is ridiculous.


It's scary because Towns hasn't shown his full potential. Extremely unselfish big man. He'll never be the post player Okafor is, but he provides Andrew Bogut/Joakim Noah defense and rebound with unique offensive ability.
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Post#645 » by sasso » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:23 am

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riter wrote:Towns. it's not just the 19pts 10rbs 4blks 2asts(should of been more)--it's the way he plays--smooth and effortlessly.
He was born to play the triangle.
Great touch on passes and his shot.
He's just a little light in the azz---but he's huge and you can tell he'll fill out.
I just don't see Phil picking Okafor over him--yeah, he's more nba ready in terms of scoring, but Towns ceiling is ridiculous.


It's scary because Towns hasn't shown his full potential. Extremely unselfish big man. He'll never be the post player Okafor is, but he provides Andrew Bogut/Joakim Noah defense and rebound with unique offensive ability.


It's crazy how much he's improved in ever area since the beginning of the season. He's a more patient and smarter passer and his shooting touch, range, and post moves have all improved significantly. He's also a lot more active on defense, his foot speed has improved, he's stronger, and his nose for the ball and awareness of where the ball is going on rebounds has become Noah-like. I don't see how you can pass on a two-way center like him. He's better than Okafor in every way except low-post offense. Towns should be the #1 pick.
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Post#646 » by DickGrayson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:46 am

I think it's fair to assess who's the #1 pick when we enter March Madness.

Seeing these guys preform in the clutch will be huge. Hope everyone can stay healthy.
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Post#647 » by DickGrayson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:54 am

Towns is looking smooth out there right now


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Post#648 » by Juco24 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:06 am

I had no idea that Towns was a 7', dude plays very smooth and agile. He's just a very good all around player! Reminds me a lot of Al Horford. I'm leaning like many others. it'll be hard NOT to pick Towns
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Post#649 » by FemaleDogPlease » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:06 am

I like Towns but my problem is I don't see him as a center in the NBA. He doesn't seem athletic enough to guard NBA PF's either.

Oh and Al Horford was way more athletic than Towns coming out of college.
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Post#650 » by DickGrayson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:22 am

FemaleDogPlease wrote:I like Towns but my problem is I don't see him as a center in the NBA. He doesn't seem athletic enough to guard NBA PF's either.

Oh and Al Horford was way more athletic than Towns coming out of college.


Towns is 7 feet tall and 250 lbs. How is he not a center?

Why is the question of Towns being a NBA PF even mentioned? He plays PF on Kentucky because he's the most skilled big man out of the 4 prospects. He has the best face up game.

In the NBA, Towns will play the 5 just like how Gasol plays the 5.

Towns 7"0 250lbs, was Horford is 6"10 245 coming out of Florida, of course Horford is going to be more athletic and extremely skilled(one of the most skilled big men we have in the NBA). Horford is a short C. Towns has enough length and good enough athleticism to be a strong center. It's not even a question.
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Post#651 » by Mr_Perfect » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:21 am

How great is it that we can have this discussion?

I'm very excited. Just keep losing and we'll get one of these 4 guaranteed.

We are finally in a position to draft the next franchise player who can carry the franchise for the next decade. We have to get this right.
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Post#652 » by FemaleDogPlease » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:01 am

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FemaleDogPlease wrote:I like Towns but my problem is I don't see him as a center in the NBA. He doesn't seem athletic enough to guard NBA PF's either.

Oh and Al Horford was way more athletic than Towns coming out of college.


Towns is 7 feet tall and 250 lbs. How is he not a center?

Why is the question of Towns being a NBA PF even mentioned? He plays PF on Kentucky because he's the most skilled big man out of the 4 prospects. He has the best face up game.

In the NBA, Towns will play the 5 just like how Gasol plays the 5.

Towns 7"0 250lbs, was Horford is 6"10 245 coming out of Florida, of course Horford is going to be more athletic and extremely skilled(one of the most skilled big men we have in the NBA). Horford is a short C. Towns has enough length and good enough athleticism to be a strong center. It's not even a question.


If that was the case he would be putting up better stats.

The guy isn't even as athletic as Embiid.

I can see this guy being an epic bust.
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Post#653 » by Stoosh » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:07 am

I don't think 1 through 4 is necessarily a franchise player. Okafor probably is.

Russell and Mudiay will be elite at their position over time.

Towns is the most intriguing of the projected Top 4. Where he lands and how they develop him will make the difference .
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Post#654 » by FemaleDogPlease » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:45 am

Stoosh wrote:I don't think 1 through 4 is necessarily a franchise player. Okafor probably is.

Russell and Mudiay will be elite at their position over time.

Towns is the most intriguing of the projected Top 4. Where he lands and how they develop him will make the difference .


Mudiay needs to fine tune his jumper to be elite. Being a so so free throw shooter is a concern.

Russell needs to play PG to be elite. I don't think he can guard starting quality NBA SGs.
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Post#655 » by DickGrayson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:21 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
FemaleDogPlease wrote:I like Towns but my problem is I don't see him as a center in the NBA. He doesn't seem athletic enough to guard NBA PF's either.

Oh and Al Horford was way more athletic than Towns coming out of college.


Towns is 7 feet tall and 250 lbs. How is he not a center?

Why is the question of Towns being a NBA PF even mentioned? He plays PF on Kentucky because he's the most skilled big man out of the 4 prospects. He has the best face up game.

In the NBA, Towns will play the 5 just like how Gasol plays the 5.

Towns 7"0 250lbs, was Horford is 6"10 245 coming out of Florida, of course Horford is going to be more athletic and extremely skilled(one of the most skilled big men we have in the NBA). Horford is a short C. Towns has enough length and good enough athleticism to be a strong center. It's not even a question.


If that was the case he would be putting up better stats.

The guy isn't even as athletic as Embiid.

I can see this guy being an epic bust.



Have you ever seen Towns play?

This post is silly.

Towns stats are great. He doesn't play 30 mins per game because his team usually blow out their opponents and Kentucky has great depth. I'll bookmark this post and come back to this when Towns arrives to the NBA.
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Post#656 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:52 pm

Nice to see folks coming around towards Towns. For me he's only confirming what I already knew. I do agree March Madness will bring alot of light on all these guys.
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Post#657 » by Juco24 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:54 pm

From a CURRENT skill level, I think Jahlil is definitely the better player but I think Towns has the most upside. Jahlil has the best post play anyone has seen in years coming out of college but I dislike his defense. Towns plays better defense and has developed a nice hook shot and also had a good face up game. I guess it boils down to who is the best 'fit' and I believe it's Towns
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Post#658 » by DickGrayson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:37 pm

Juco24 wrote:From a CURRENT skill level, I think Jahlil is definitely the better player but I think Towns has the most upside. Jahlil has the best post play anyone has seen in years coming out of college but I dislike his defense. Towns plays better defense and has developed a nice hook shot and also had a good face up game. I guess it boils down to who is the best 'fit' and I believe it's Towns


I see Okafor winning rookie of the year, but Towns being better down the road. I still think Okafor will improve his all around game, but not be a complete big man. I just keep imaging which teams fit best for each guy.

Knicks (no big man, could use both guys)
TWolves(Pekovic is a great big but he's injury prone. Dieng is very good also. PF position is weak with Bennett)
76ers (having Noel, McGee and Embiid, after trading MCW, they have a huge gap at the guard position, can still go with BPA)
Lakers(Only have Randle, desperately need a center)
Magic(already got Vucevic, but Towns would be a great fit next to him, Okafor not so much)
Sacramento(already got Cousins, same thing with Orlando)

I can't wait till the lottery is revealed.

Knicks deserve the damn #1 pick this year, but I have faith in the #3 and #4 picks.
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Post#659 » by TrueWarrior » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:01 pm

So what's the scoop on Mudiay? Tell me why this dude is legit. His athleticism seems to be a little overrated by what I read/see and he can't shoot. Played in a terrible league. I suppose if we get the 4th pick we'd have to choose him, but I got the other 3 ahead of him now. Is he that much better than Hezonja, Porzingis, Johnson and such?

Towns is about to become my clear cut top choice.
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Post#660 » by riter » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:15 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:
Why is the question of Towns being a NBA PF even mentioned? He plays PF on Kentucky because he's the most skilled big man out of the 4 prospects. He has the best face up game.

In the NBA, Towns will play the 5 just like how Gasol plays the 5.



We have to be careful here. Towns is light in the azz. those auburn boys kinda pushed him around--but his footwork, speed, and the fact that he knows what to do with the ball no matter where he is on the floor kind of negates his lack of strength in the paint.

I think that's why they have him playing next to Cauley-Stein. this may be a problem in the nba his first year.However, if we draft him, I expect him to get tutored by Kareem and master the mid to high post----like Gasol--as you mentioned.

there's no doubt that he will average 13rebounds and 3blks. the question is can he score in the paint. He's no coward, he likes to mix it up, but strength is a big thing in the nba---for both positioning and taking high percentage shots close in.

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