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2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#641 » by Bklyn&company » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:53 pm

Fck Noah... he needs to be traded to Cleveland!
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Post#642 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:34 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:So wouldn't it be the best idea to stay with what we have and re-sign E.Kanter and in 2020 when we have both C.Lee and J.Noah coming off the books which would be around $30 million to sign a big name in free agency. We'd have some really good pieces in KP, THJ, Kanter and Frank to put another big piece with. We could upgrade at PG if Frank isn't the type of starter we need by then and if he is then add a true SF to this team. We'd also have 3 1st round picks added at that time as well that we could hit big on along with a couple of 2nd round picks. We'd have to get KP on board with waiting another 2 years after this season and get Kanter for the right price but we could be looking good in 2020.




The 2020 free agent market is strong to.
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Post#643 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:07 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:So wouldn't it be the best idea to stay with what we have and re-sign E.Kanter and in 2020 when we have both C.Lee and J.Noah coming off the books which would be around $30 million to sign a big name in free agency. We'd have some really good pieces in KP, THJ, Kanter and Frank to put another big piece with. We could upgrade at PG if Frank isn't the type of starter we need by then and if he is then add a true SF to this team. We'd also have 3 1st round picks added at that time as well that we could hit big on along with a couple of 2nd round picks. We'd have to get KP on board with waiting another 2 years after this season and get Kanter for the right price but we could be looking good in 2020.




The 2020 free agent market is strong to.


Agreed. Kyrie Irving and Kawhi Leonard are Free Agents in 2020
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Post#644 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:43 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:So wouldn't it be the best idea to stay with what we have and re-sign E.Kanter and in 2020 when we have both C.Lee and J.Noah coming off the books which would be around $30 million to sign a big name in free agency. We'd have some really good pieces in KP, THJ, Kanter and Frank to put another big piece with. We could upgrade at PG if Frank isn't the type of starter we need by then and if he is then add a true SF to this team. We'd also have 3 1st round picks added at that time as well that we could hit big on along with a couple of 2nd round picks. We'd have to get KP on board with waiting another 2 years after this season and get Kanter for the right price but we could be looking good in 2020.




The 2020 free agent market is strong to.


Agreed. Kyrie Irving and Kawhi Leonard are Free Agents in 2020




Yeah but i think we already know that Kawhi isn't going anywhere for sure but i wonder about Kyrie, usually D.Ainge gets whatever guys he wants to stay there but i wonder if Kyrie will be 100% happy there. If they don't win a championship or at least go to one then maybe he doesn't but if i had to guess i would think Ainge will get him signed.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#645 » by WargamesX » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:07 pm

2020 is a really long while from now..... Knicks FO might not even be the same by then.
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Post#646 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:35 pm

Javal McGee on the trade block.
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Post#647 » by Biggie Smalls » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:20 pm

We need to sign kanter on a discount
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Post#648 » by tleikheen » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:57 pm

With Nicola Vucevic (C) injured for 6/8 weeks and Bismack Biyombo (C) having to take over for Vucevic, Orlando might be looking for a backup to Biyombo.

Trading Willie Hernangomez 23 y.o. (C) straight up for Mario Hezonja 22 y.o. (SG) would help both teams .Knicks need a young athletic (SG) who can shoot the 3 ball.

The last 4 games Hezonja pressed into playing minutes for the 1st time in his career due to Orlando injuries has.....

averaged 17 ppg in 28 mpg, shooting 26/53 and *12/23 from 3pt territory*.

Getting Hezonja would give NY the upper hand on signing him.
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Post#649 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:59 pm

tleikheen wrote:With Nicola Vucevic (C) injured for 6/8 weeks and Bismack Biyombo (C) having to take over for Vucevic, Orlando might be looking for a backup to Biyombo.

Trading Willie Hernangomez 23 y.o. (C) straight up for Mario Hezonja 22 y.o. (SG) would help both teams .Knicks need a young athletic (SG) who can shoot the 3 ball.

The last 4 games Hezonja pressed into playing minutes for the 1st time in his career due to Orlando injuries has.....

averaged 17 ppg in 28 mpg, shooting 26/53 and *12/23 from 3pt territory*.

Getting Hezonja would give NY the upper hand on signing him.


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Post#650 » by tleikheen » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:00 am

We need to sign kanter on a discount


Players producing at a high level don't do discounts.......Getting him at fair market now might be the shrewdest move the Knicks can make earlier than later.
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Post#651 » by tleikheen » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:04 am

Was it you or someone else who brought up this bad idea a few weeks ago? No. No. No. No. No. No


You were the last one here (Forum),trashing on Kanter .....How is that working for you now????????
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Post#652 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:09 am

tleikheen wrote:
Was it you or someone else who brought up this bad idea a few weeks ago? No. No. No. No. No. No


You were the last one here (Forum),trashing on Kanter .....How is that working for you now????????


He's the same player he was in the beginning of the year - offensive threat in the paint (although now he's spreading to 10-15 foot jumpers) who rebounds well, but is a **** defender. It's not my fault you're still loving on Kanter, considering that is the one thing you've done since coming to RealGM - there's a note in your profile from 2015 that says "Big Enes Kanter fan. Won't stop with it." So...yeah, your schtick is kind of old. Just because I'm not a nut-hugger doesn't mean I'm wrong...in fact, I'd bet my experience and history against yours any day of the week. :wink:
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Post#653 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:30 am

tleikheen wrote:With Nicola Vucevic (C) injured for 6/8 weeks and Bismack Biyombo (C) having to take over for Vucevic, Orlando might be looking for a backup to Biyombo.

Trading Willie Hernangomez 23 y.o. (C) straight up for Mario Hezonja 22 y.o. (SG) would help both teams .Knicks need a young athletic (SG) who can shoot the 3 ball.

The last 4 games Hezonja pressed into playing minutes for the 1st time in his career due to Orlando injuries has.....

averaged 17 ppg in 28 mpg, shooting 26/53 and *12/23 from 3pt territory*.

Getting Hezonja would give NY the upper hand on signing him.




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Post#654 » by tleikheen » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:38 am

Im thinking Courtney lee is 32 y. o. now and could be valuable in another trade to a contender looking for a reliable shooter which Lee has been very good this year.

Including tonight ,last 5 games Hezonja has averaged 16 ppg in 28 minutes Remember he's not signed for next year.
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Post#655 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:43 am

Even if we’d have to give up an additional player, I’d rather get an NBA ready, and a proven talent back for Willy. I hate the idea of Hezonja for Willy straight up. He’s 22, hasn’t shown anything high end, isn’t a needle mover, and we already have a guy on the roster like him(McDermott).
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Post#656 » by dakomish23 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:54 pm

This is from the trade board in a UTA fire sale thread

Trade 3 - Knicks
Utah trades Rodney Hood and Ricky Rubio for Joakim Noah and the Knicks' first round pick this year.

If it’s somewhat protected (top10), would you do this deal?

Hood could slide into the SF role. Rubio could do well playing with the young guys who want to run. Opens up some cap space for 2019 depending on what you pay Hood.
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Post#657 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:57 pm

dakomish23 wrote:This is from the trade board in a UTA fire sale thread

Trade 3 - Knicks
Utah trades Rodney Hood and Ricky Rubio for Joakim Noah and the Knicks' first round pick this year.

If it’s somewhat protected (top10), would you do this deal?

Hood could slide into the SF role. Rubio could do well playing with the young guys who want to run. Opens up some cap space for 2019 depending on what you pay Hood.


Nah, I'm not doing that. Hood's offense is hit or miss and his defense is horrible. I also don't want to be paying him 14+ a year going forward.
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Post#658 » by dakomish23 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:02 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:This is from the trade board in a UTA fire sale thread

Trade 3 - Knicks
Utah trades Rodney Hood and Ricky Rubio for Joakim Noah and the Knicks' first round pick this year.

If it’s somewhat protected (top10), would you do this deal?

Hood could slide into the SF role. Rubio could do well playing with the young guys who want to run. Opens up some cap space for 2019 depending on what you pay Hood.


Nah, I'm not doing that. Hood's offense is hit or miss and his defense is horrible. I also don't want to be paying him 14+ a year going forward.


I could see him being a better fit here than in UTA where he’s just a gunner. I don’t know what he’ll get in FA though.

Dumping Noah and adding Rubio seems to tilt in the Knicks favor, if there is good protection on the pick.
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Post#659 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:04 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:This is from the trade board in a UTA fire sale thread

Trade 3 - Knicks
Utah trades Rodney Hood and Ricky Rubio for Joakim Noah and the Knicks' first round pick this year.

If it’s somewhat protected (top10), would you do this deal?

Hood could slide into the SF role. Rubio could do well playing with the young guys who want to run. Opens up some cap space for 2019 depending on what you pay Hood.


Nah, I'm not doing that. Hood's offense is hit or miss and his defense is horrible. I also don't want to be paying him 14+ a year going forward.


I could see him being a better fit here than in UTA where he’s just a gunner. I don’t know what he’ll get in FA though.

Dumping Noah and adding Rubio seems to tilt in the Knicks favor, if there is good protection on the pick.


The defense is still a huge problem. He is a terrible defender in Utah even though he has an awesome defensive coach and is surrounded by great defensive players. Even going back to Duke, he was a gunner and poor defensive player.

Getting rid of Noah is nice, but we're essentially adding that back in Hood (and Rubio adds more onto the cap). I'd rather have the pick and continue rebuilding from the inside.
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Post#660 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:13 pm

dakomish23 wrote:This is from the trade board in a UTA fire sale thread

Trade 3 - Knicks
Utah trades Rodney Hood and Ricky Rubio for Joakim Noah and the Knicks' first round pick this year.

If it’s somewhat protected (top10), would you do this deal?

Hood could slide into the SF role. Rubio could do well playing with the young guys who want to run. Opens up some cap space for 2019 depending on what you pay Hood.



That's a trade i would definitely think about.

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