PG Thread: FRANK GANG GANG UNITE - 'Remi Bomb: Pg 13

[Amsterdam]

So what are you trying to say then?

Big name FA have not wanted to come here because we didn't have a core to offer them. That is why we whiffed in 2010 and every year thereafter.

Kp/Frank/2018 nba draft pick can be FINALLY the core that changes that around. Because we haven't had a player as good as KP since Pat. Yeah sorry Melo/Amare fans.

He is only 22 and already dropping 30/10 games like no ones business.

It is all over the media how players would want to play with KP. Now that we may finally have something we lack cap space. Because of dumb ass.

And I never said that every front office was perfect. But Phil was idiotic in most of his moves except the draft. Just because he hit on two picks with the help of Gaines doesn't make him a good gm.

The thunder GM is a good gm.

But Phil was the only one to challenge Melo head on to be a team player and laid the groundwork for Melo's exit and a new dawn. Melo couldn't Bernard King us into the playoffs.

That Noah and Lee are here is a good thing IMO.
They are both good vets and hold us back from spending. We need high draft picks and in a blessing in disguise we are in that position.

See mods this rationalization right here is ban worthy. This is straight up trolling.

Don't be ridiculous.

[JohnWillow]

Hard to think of a good comparison for Frank. He almost reminds me of Harden in how he can get where he wants without much effort, can size guys up, great passer, very smooth.

Frank Ntilikina = combination of James Harden on offense and Gary Payton on defense tbh

Don't @ me, I said this already in 2016 December.

[Guano]

I can when people wanna prop up Gaines as a dude not to question.

What’s hard to understand about that?

I'm just saying that you can't use a 2nd round pick miss as carrying the same weight as a top 10. No Executive is perfect, but Gaines resume is mad impressive.

Yes it is.

I will question any pick Gaines makes until they play. Don’t tell me not to when dude has fuqed up picks too.

Mods, I'm here to report Gaines slander.

[K_ick_God]

Phil had Melo, that's why he signed vets. Two tracks.

Anyway, whatever but he picked three good young players. When did we do that last? The 70's?

[TankCommander17]

Dude... The original thing I posted is that Phil wasn't as horrible as he's made out to be. Never said he was perfect. Other than Walsh, he's probably the best we've had in the past 2 decades (which isn't really saying much).

Regarding it being all over the media that people want to play with KP... I remember that being said about playing with Melo and playing under D'Antoni. How have those worked out? You can hope all you want for the best case scenario in any situation, but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

That was never said about Melo. Not sure where you got that.

It was said about Pringles but like I stated we didn't have a core to offer any top stars in 2010. We were offering David Lee/Gallo as a core.

No top player would be dumb enough to want that. Except Melo.

Really? Nobody said Melo was an awesome teammate on the Olympics? That his teammates love him? That Chris Paul would want to play with him? The banana boat? Were these all figments of my imagination?

And Melo didn't want that, Gallo was given up for him in the trade. Not bashing the trade, just stating what we gave up. We did have a young core that was fun to watch and steadily improving, the same situation that I'm hoping to see now. I'm cautiously optimistic, but it's only been one game.

Chris Paul wanted to play here its true. But that was it. He asked for a trade here actually but we couldn't get the job done.

If you are really comparing that core to this core. I am not going to say nothing so I don't get banned.

[Rasho Brezec]

Back to the lecture at hand. This was my favorite Frank pass from last night, mainly because of how quick/decisive/accurate it was. Plus there was a bit of no-look to it, which never hurts.

In soccer this would be passing into space. Such passes are possible when you keep your head up. Just fundamentals.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Hard to think of a good comparison for Frank. He almost reminds me of Harden in how he can get where he wants without much effort, can size guys up, great passer, very smooth.

Frank Ntilikina = combination of James Harden on offense and Gary Payton on defense tbh

Don't @ me, I said this already in 2016 December.

Don't break your arm!

[Amsterdam]

You could say that but it's a matter of degrees.

I will repeat, these "quick fixes" were not detrimental to the long term prospects of the franchise. That is far from a bad thing.

The noah and Lee contracts won't allow us to be in contention for a top free agent for TWO MORE YEARS. How is that not a long term detriment.

Boogie is a free agent this season. So is PG/Lebron. Do those type of players come around every year?

So we have cap space in two years. To sign who? A 30 year old Klay Thompson I guess?

These things matter.

Imagine if we had cap and KP/Frank were showing free agents that if you join them we might ahve something here just like the Lakers are trying to do (badly) with their team.

Imagine
Boogie
Kp
Doncic
???
Frank.

Who doesn't sign up for that? But now we can't. Because of these dumb ass contracts.

Imagine what? Two of your building blocks were picked after Phil's blessing. Boogie is good for himself right now as he is another Rasheed. Rasheed became a great addition once he matured but Boogie has a few years left for that maturity to appear. Not exactly a team dependable franchise cornerstone for about $40 million per.

[K_ick_God]

Back to the lecture at hand. This was my favorite Frank pass from last night, mainly because of how quick/decisive/accurate it was. Plus there was a bit of no-look to it, which never hurts.

In soccer this would be passing into space. Such passes are possible when you keep your head up. Just fundamentals.

Soccer analogies. I don't even know you anymore.

[K_ick_God]

It is funny that it took a teenager for the Knicks to see a guy who makes defensive reads, slides over and helps ... in what amounted to basically his first game.

Doing stuff we haven't had since Oakley.

[KnickFan33]

That was never said about Melo. Not sure where you got that.

It was said about Pringles but like I stated we didn't have a core to offer any top stars in 2010. We were offering David Lee/Gallo as a core.

No top player would be dumb enough to want that. Except Melo.

Really? Nobody said Melo was an awesome teammate on the Olympics? That his teammates love him? That Chris Paul would want to play with him? The banana boat? Were these all figments of my imagination?

And Melo didn't want that, Gallo was given up for him in the trade. Not bashing the trade, just stating what we gave up. We did have a young core that was fun to watch and steadily improving, the same situation that I'm hoping to see now. I'm cautiously optimistic, but it's only been one game.

Chris Paul wanted to play here its true. But that was it. He asked for a trade here actually but we couldn't get the job done.

If you are really comparing that core to this core. I am not going to say nothing so I don't get banned.

I'm starting to think you're just being contrarian. Nothing makes you happy.

We're finally in tank mode, we're not tanking well enough.

Frank hasn't shown you anything to prove he'll be any good. When he has 1 solid game, he's going to ruin the tank.

I try to point out a relatively similar situation, you try to say they're not similar at all.

[Triple C]

Back to the lecture at hand. This was my favorite Frank pass from last night, mainly because of how quick/decisive/accurate it was. Plus there was a bit of no-look to it, which never hurts.

In soccer this would be passing into space. Such passes are possible when you keep your head up. Just fundamentals.

Frank NBA's Kevin De Bruyne

[Rasho Brezec]

Back to the lecture at hand. This was my favorite Frank pass from last night, mainly because of how quick/decisive/accurate it was. Plus there was a bit of no-look to it, which never hurts.

In soccer this would be passing into space. Such passes are possible when you keep your head up. Just fundamentals.

Soccer analogies. I don't even know you anymore.

[Phish Tank]

Back to the lecture at hand. This was my favorite Frank pass from last night, mainly because of how quick/decisive/accurate it was. Plus there was a bit of no-look to it, which never hurts.

Couple interesting points to look at:

1) As Rasho mentioned, passing in space is key fundamentals.
2) While Beasley's screen didn't really mean much, it helped in one aspect to move Booker away from the next part of the play.
3) I'm sure it was a part of the plays, but Doug set a great off-ball screen on Crabbe that pulled Harris to the top of the key thinking that Frank would drive around the screen. However, it ended up allowing Lee to cut to the corner allowing Frank to make a beautiful pass for the three.

[N Y K]

Back to the lecture at hand. This was my favorite Frank pass from last night, mainly because of how quick/decisive/accurate it was. Plus there was a bit of no-look to it, which never hurts.

doug too though

edit: mad people pointed this out already lol

[Jalen Bluntson]

Really? Nobody said Melo was an awesome teammate on the Olympics? That his teammates love him? That Chris Paul would want to play with him? The banana boat? Were these all figments of my imagination?

And Melo didn't want that, Gallo was given up for him in the trade. Not bashing the trade, just stating what we gave up. We did have a young core that was fun to watch and steadily improving, the same situation that I'm hoping to see now. I'm cautiously optimistic, but it's only been one game.

Chris Paul wanted to play here its true. But that was it. He asked for a trade here actually but we couldn't get the job done.

If you are really comparing that core to this core. I am not going to say nothing so I don't get banned.

I'm starting to think you're just being contrarian. Nothing makes you happy.

We're finally in tank mode, we're not tanking well enough.

Frank hasn't shown you anything to prove he'll be any good. When he has 1 solid game, he's going to ruin the tank.

I try to point out a relatively similar situation, you try to say they're not similar at all.

Oh yeah. Debbie Downer wearing flip flops!

[Oscirus]

Ok just watched the game and Oquinn is not just our current best defensive center, but he's also our best passing big and Kanter's just manhandling people for offensive rebounds. No idea where the minutes for Willy are going to come from.

My favorite Frank play? One of the Nets ( I think Carrol?) goes into the crowd diving for a loose ball and despite being the closest person there, Frank doesn't try to help him up.

[thebuzzardman]

Phil was awesome in my eyes. I'll always appreciate his tenure and remember it fondly.

Honestly, some of the best things about him were his brash personality and willingness to toy with the NY media. If you ask me, the Knicks needed someone like him to cleanse the franchise. Now, everyone's on their best behavior. He sacrificed his "legacy" to rebuild the team because he knew it was the right thing. So I laugh at anyone who says he came here to collect a check and simply didn't care. He cared enough to do something no one else ever had the balls to do here, and now we're all better off for it. Talk about a legacy.

Him tearing teams down to tank for lottery picks, getting screwed in the draft lottery the first time and still turning the pick into absolute gold, and very possibly the best player in that draft, is nothing short of heart-warming. Then for him to hit this last pick with Frank out of the park like many of us now suspect he did... to me... was all well-worth some of the heartache the fickle NY fans were forced to endure throughout his tenure. It was all worth it, and it's a shame there were so many who couldn't see it that way before they became so emotional.

The biggest mystery that remains to me is Melo's NTC. I know that wasn't Phil's idea, and I know he couldn't have been happy about it. I hope he writes about it all one day.

Phil: Dolon Cleanser

[thebuzzardman]

Kanter missed an open layup
Tim missed an array of open shots
Doug missed an open 3

Frank should of had like 10 assist.

Fixed it up a bit

[Capn'O]

I'm just saying that you can't use a 2nd round pick miss as carrying the same weight as a top 10. No Executive is perfect, but Gaines resume is mad impressive.

Yes it is.

I will question any pick Gaines makes until they play. Don’t tell me not to when dude has fuqed up picks too.

Mods, I'm here to report Gaines slander.

My GOD. She'll probably come for Kevin Wilson next