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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#641 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:41 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
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Still pretty pathetic

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Bro, Dolan had to come correct and not jump out without great deliberation. What's he gonna say "I understand your pain", he Dolan and no fault of his own, is a fkn billionaire.

So yes he was right to be thoughtful. But by no means is he racist regardless of political affiliation, being a republican is not a crime. Being an **** Democrat is just as bad as an **** Republican, just as much as being an **** Christian, Jew, or Muslim. You capture me?

Dolan is actually one of the most open and equal opportuntiy owners in ALL of sports.


That's cool, but I think he's gotta convince his own employees first
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#642 » by RHODEY » Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:53 pm

E-Balla wrote:Shoutout to all the Dominicans in Dyckman and LKs in Chicago that showed their asses!

I swear everyone is lucky as hell black people are more concerned with being righteous than free.

What did they do?
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#643 » by DaGawd » Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:56 pm

I'm out.. I'm a fan of individual players while this **** is the Knicks owner
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#644 » by Blockwatcher » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:01 pm

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White mother **** setting up black people to get killed by giving out bricks.

These are the type of white parasites that have infected these jusrified protests.

You can tell who they are in real life and online:

They start the conversation with "black lives matter" then later talk about "facism" "revolution" "sacrifices".

They dont burn their mothers homes, they burn the homes of black mothers. They don't look their neighborhoods, they destory black neighborhoods.

#jrsmiththem.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#645 » by Zenzibar » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:09 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Still pretty pathetic

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Bro, Dolan had to come correct and not jump out without great deliberation. What's he gonna say "I understand your pain", he Dolan and no fault of his own, is a fkn billionaire.

So yes he was right to be thoughtful. But by no means is he racist regardless of political affiliation, being a republican is not a crime. Being an **** Democrat is just as bad as an **** Republican, just as much as being an **** Christian, Jew, or Muslim. You capture me?

Dolan is actually one of the most open and equal opportuntiy owners in ALL of sports.


That's cool, but I think he's gotta convince his own employees first


Like who?
Past employees:
Isaiah Thomas
Steve Mills
Fizdale
Herb Williams

or
Scott Perry
Walt Perrin

or the countless front office personnel whom Dolan has given top positions to? Or are we talking about 2-3 employees that the media rounded to be 1000 employees?
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#646 » by robillionaire » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:30 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
robillionaire wrote:


Still pretty pathetic

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Bro, Dolan had to come correct and not jump out without great deliberation. What's he gonna say "I understand your pain", he Dolan and no fault of his own, is a fkn billionaire.

So yes he was right to be thoughtful. But by no means is he racist regardless of political affiliation, being a republican is not a crime. Being an **** Democrat is just as bad as an **** Republican, just as much as being an **** Christian, Jew, or Muslim. You capture me?

Dolan is actually one of the most open and equal opportuntiy owners in ALL of sports.


I just thought his statement was weak and did not truly address the issue at hand but that’s just my opinion on it. I wasn't really expecting much either, all these corporate statements are just PR fluff anyway but still would have hoped for better

Not really about his actions as the owner or personal politics
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#647 » by Zenzibar » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:39 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Still pretty pathetic

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Bro, Dolan had to come correct and not jump out without great deliberation. What's he gonna say "I understand your pain", he Dolan and no fault of his own, is a fkn billionaire.

So yes he was right to be thoughtful. But by no means is he racist regardless of political affiliation, being a republican is not a crime. Being an **** Democrat is just as bad as an **** Republican, just as much as being an **** Christian, Jew, or Muslim. You capture me?

Dolan is actually one of the most open and equal opportuntiy owners in ALL of sports.


I just thought his statement was weak and did not truly address the issue at hand but that’s just my opinion on it

Not really about his actions as the owner or personal politics


I hear you my Dude.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#648 » by Kampuchea » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:41 pm

Dolan isn’t a racist, just continues to be terrible in all aspects of communication and PR.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#649 » by Synciere » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:49 pm

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Still pretty pathetic

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Dolan seems like the type that knows his own limitations. His first impulse to not speak may have been the right one based on the results.

My thing is, doesn’t he have a publicist for this? And a damn good one considering his image and value?

Too many of these statements have been bland calls for unity rather than strong statements of what actually happened and calls for future action. They’re trying to appease Black people while not offending white people.

We’re never going to get anywhere on this subject if we have to try not to offend white people.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#650 » by Jay10 » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:55 pm

:lol: @ the people grading statements as if they matter

How about those statements from the 49ers and NFL that they recently released even after what they did to Kaepernick?

Dolan is a team owner. Why are you so invested in him speaking on anything outside of things that don't involved his business?

I have never seen people get brainwashed by media outlets with such ease.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#651 » by Synciere » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:09 pm

Jay10 wrote::lol: @ the people grading statements as if they matter

How about those statements from the 49ers and NFL that they recently released even after what they did to Kaepernick?

Dolan is a team owner. Why are you so invested in him speaking on anything outside of things that don't involved his business?

I have never seen people get brainwashed by media outlets with such ease.


I get your point about about grading statements, but strong statements against the murder of civilians at the hands of the police from people like Dolan matter. Statements from powerful white people and entities matter. Especially when the decision makers in cases like George Floyd are primarily white and beholden to powerful white people who support their campaigns financially. People and Dolan and York have the power to turn this boat around, at least in their districts/states.

It’s not being brainwashed. That’s why I keep telling people this isn’t on Black people to fix. Every time someone says well maybe the black community should just..., or if you just listen to police this wouldn’t happen..., all they’re doing is shifting blame and responsibility away from white cops and white district attorneys and white public officials.

I hate saying it, but these statements from these teams DO matter...
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#652 » by Blockwatcher » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:11 pm

RHODEY wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Shoutout to all the Dominicans in Dyckman and LKs in Chicago that showed their asses!

I swear everyone is lucky as hell black people are more concerned with being righteous than free.

What did they do?

I might be wrong , but they joined the cops
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#653 » by Jay10 » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:18 pm

Synciere wrote:
Jay10 wrote::lol: @ the people grading statements as if they matter

How about those statements from the 49ers and NFL that they recently released even after what they did to Kaepernick?

Dolan is a team owner. Why are you so invested in him speaking on anything outside of things that don't involved his business?

I have never seen people get brainwashed by media outlets with such ease.


I get your point about about grading statements, but strong statements against the murder of civilians at the hands of the police from people like Dolan matter. Statements from powerful white people and entities matter. Especially when the decision makers in cases like George Floyd are primarily white and beholden to powerful white people who support their campaigns financially. People and Dolan and York have the power to turn this boat around, at least in their districts/states.

It’s not being brainwashed. That’s why I keep telling people this isn’t on Black people to fix. Every time someone says well maybe the black community should just..., or if you just listen to police this wouldn’t happen..., all they’re doing is shifting blame and responsibility away from white cops and white district attorneys and white public officials.

I hate saying it, but these statements from these teams DO matter...


- The 49ers drafted/hired a player in Nick Bosa, who said a lot of racist s*** over the years.

- The NFL made it its business to make sure Kaepernick never plays in their league and recently put out a statement.

- The New England Patriots just drafted/hired a player in this recent draft that is a white supremacist and his tattoos are visible for everyone to see.

After watching NothingButKnicks' youtube chat last night, it made perfect sense when some of the people said this is just "the new wave" for a majority of the people to act like they care when they actually don't.

The statements from organizations don't hold any weight when they don't commit to these things year round but only when it's convenient.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#654 » by Capn'O » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:36 pm

Re: Dolan - I think SAS has it right...



NYK should have issued a statement but SAS puts a lot more weight into Dolan's overall record, which is mixed. Very good hiring record for minorities but... there's his unwavering support of Trump, as well. Ultimately, actions speak loudest.


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#655 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:41 pm

so, about staying knicks fans after dolan's remarks...
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#656 » by blanko » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:45 pm

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#657 » by DOT » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:45 pm

Capn'O wrote:While on the subject...

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#658 » by robillionaire » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:13 pm

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#659 » by Jeffrey » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:13 pm

LOL y'all keep hoping for that big time free agent to come to the Knicks. It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that no superstar will want to sign with the Knicks as a free agent when they can have other options.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#660 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:31 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Just a heads up to anyone who has friends or family located in Washington, D.C. who may be out protesting

DC is the only jurisdiction Trump can fully mess with right now as it has no governor. In the 50 states a governor is the one who calls in troops, not the president. But in DC the President can kind of do WTF he wants

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There is no such thing as DOJ troops

What this means is Barr and Trump probably have contracted with black ops to patrol the DC streets

IOW, these are not law enforcement or military. They have no identifying emblems or insignias. These are rogue people sent in by the WH to throw down. These are probably guys who work for Erik Prince

So if you know anyone protesting in DC, warn them to be EXTRA CAREFUL. Trump is really pushing the envelope now



First off, your warnings and take on Trump in DC are accurate and no issue there.

Also, those guys MIGHT be "contractors" from Prince, but DOJ has several departments in it that have a paramilitary component, or can have it:
http://www.allgov.com/departments/department-of-justice?DepartmentID=573

Off the top of my head:
FBI (they have tactical type units)
DEA (see above, seems less likely to be used in this case)
ATF - now there's a group I could see being used
Federal Bureau of Prisons - Another I could see being asked to "spare some manpower" for this, and also, like ICE, I think much more aligned with Trump in it's leadership and personnel.
US Marshals - have tactical types, not so sure enough to be used here
US Capitol Police - they generally look like cops, but are Federal and have the security of congress as primary mission
https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/our-mission

Two VERY likely groups


ICE - Not part of DOJ, but VERY in line with Trump
Border Patrol - see above

Oh, and looky here:
https://www.rollcall.com/2020/06/01/immigration-agencies-to-assist-law-enforcement-amid-unrest/

The two biggest immigration enforcement agencies at the Homeland Security Department confirmed Monday they will deploy personnel and resources to support local, state and federal law enforcement in U.S. cities where civil unrest over police brutality continues to simmer.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the DHS agency that deports undocumented people from inside the United States, confirmed to CQ Roll Call that it would add to the boots on the ground nationwide.

ICE “fully respects the rights of all people to peacefully express their opinions,” Danielle Bennett, an agency spokeswoman, told CQ Roll Call via email.

“In light of civil unrest taking place across the country, ICE personnel and Special Response Teams have been deployed to protect agency facilities and assets in support of the Federal Protective Service and assist local, state and federal law enforcement partners, as needed,” Bennett said.


Customs and Border Protection also threw its weight behind law enforcement. CBP “continues to assist our law enforcement partners in supporting peaceful protests,” acting Commissioner Mark Morgan said in a tweet Sunday. “But as we have seen, these ‘protests’ are anything but peaceful.”

Morgan noted that an officer with Federal Protective Services, the security division within DHS, was shot and killed while guarding a federal courthouse in Oakland, Calif., amid a protest. The motive behind the shooting was not clear, however.


BP and ICE are the closest things Trump has to Brownshirts. Especially BP.


OK, I don't know the full story and you may be right they are actual employees of a federal department, but wouldn't ICE have some uniform identifiers? These guys have no identifiers at all and they may not even have identical standard issue uniforms or shoes.

I could be wrong that every legit unit from a specific department of the government has these elements, but these guys definitely sound and look like they are contractors. When asked by the reporter, they were vague in their response which the reporter contrasted with the response from other personnel in neighboring locations. Others were forthcoming, these guys were not.

Anyway, seems like goons.

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