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Post#641 » by Infinitimind » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:51 am

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Can’t see the Cavs declining that. Enough already. Offer OKC Obi, #19, Knicks 22, Mavs 23 for Shai.


This is madness. It simply cannot be true, they got to stop with these SGA rumors making it look like he's available for cheap. :nonono:



I’d love SGA, but seeing what Thibs would like to do, and how much Rose played, Thibs wants a vet starting pg either Cp as his dream scenario or Lowry


Who cares what Thibs. If you a great coach you need to adjust your style to fit the players. Sga will be a great pick up. I would also like to steal cam reddish and maybe get monk on cheap deal
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Post#642 » by aggo » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 am

guys OKC already has 6 16 18 34 36 55

they dont want more picks in 19 21 32

they want to move up
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Post#643 » by Oscirus » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:26 am

KnixinSix wrote:There is no shortage of suitors for the Cavaliers’ No. 3 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft.Koby Altman
Per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype, the Raptors, Thunder, Warriors and Knicks have all reached out to the Cavs to discuss offers and move up.

Something like:

Sexton (6), Love (31) and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st

Leaves you with about 40 mill still to spend in free agency.

If you trade the 3 you can get Lillard potentially.

so rj and trash for their best trade chip, and a top draft pick to boot? Noice
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Post#644 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:56 am

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KnixinSix wrote:There is no shortage of suitors for the Cavaliers’ No. 3 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft.Koby Altman
Per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype, the Raptors, Thunder, Warriors and Knicks have all reached out to the Cavs to discuss offers and move up.

Something like:

Sexton (6), Love (31) and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st

Leaves you with about 40 mill still to spend in free agency.

If you trade the 3 you can get Lillard potentially.

so rj and trash for their best trade chip, and a top draft pick to boot? Noice



They are really dying to get rid of that Love contract. They also are getting RJ who is a better fit and they loved in the draft. They also like Obi alot too. The 3 could be even potentially used to get us SGA. Then you have enough money for Derozan in FA.
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Post#645 » by GONYK » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:44 am

KnixinSix wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:There is no shortage of suitors for the Cavaliers’ No. 3 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft.Koby Altman
Per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype, the Raptors, Thunder, Warriors and Knicks have all reached out to the Cavs to discuss offers and move up.

Something like:

Sexton (6), Love (31) and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st

Leaves you with about 40 mill still to spend in free agency.

If you trade the 3 you can get Lillard potentially.

so rj and trash for their best trade chip, and a top draft pick to boot? Noice



They are really dying to get rid of that Love contract. They also are getting RJ who is a better fit and they loved in the draft. They also like Obi alot too. The 3 could be even potentially used to get us SGA. Then you have enough money for Derozan in FA.


Why wouldn't the Thunder just trade SGA to the Cavs for the 3rd pick then?
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Post#646 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:50 am

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Oscirus wrote:so rj and trash for their best trade chip, and a top draft pick to boot? Noice



They are really dying to get rid of that Love contract. They also are getting RJ who is a better fit and they loved in the draft. They also like Obi alot too. The 3 could be even potentially used to get us SGA. Then you have enough money for Derozan in FA.


Why wouldn't the Thunder just trade SGA to the Cavs for the 3rd pick then?


They turned that down (SGA and 6 for #3).... But then we offer it or as a big 3 team trade. They get rid of Love and get both RJ and Obi who they like alot.

Mitch/Love
Randle/Love
Derozan/Pick 6
Sexton/Quickley
SGA/Sexton

With that line up who do you take at 6? Probably a front court guy.
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Post#647 » by Appleshampoo » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:12 am

Nothing is going on. If the Wizards are bluffing and actually trade Beal to the Warriors, would you take Westbrook and 14 if it meant drafting a player you really like? 14, 19, 21 makes it easier to trade up. Or 14 is Chris Duarte territory if you're into that.
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Post#648 » by Worst_to_First » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:13 am

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RShahNyC89 wrote:Any chance at all we have ammo enough to move into the top 4? I want Jalen Suggs bad. Perfect 2 way thibs player with winning intangibles.

Like even a ridiculous 4-5 pick offer wouldn’t cut it would it?

If we include RJ and Quickley in a package there’s a small chance


RJ is well loved in Toronto lol.
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Post#649 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:18 am

Appleshampoo wrote:Nothing is going on. If the Wizards are bluffing and actually trade Beal to the Warriors, would you take Westbrook and 14 if it meant drafting a player you really like? 14, 19, 21 makes it easier to trade up. Or 14 is Chris Duarte territory if you're into that.


If im spending 44mil of my cap on a guy he needs to be at least Damien Lillard
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Post#650 » by nyknicks8016 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:19 am

KnixinSix wrote:There is no shortage of suitors for the Cavaliers’ No. 3 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft.Koby Altman
Per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype, the Raptors, Thunder, Warriors and Knicks have all reached out to the Cavs to discuss offers and move up.

Something like:

Sexton (6), Love (31) and 3(7) for Rj 8, Obi 5, Knox 5, 19(2.5), 21 (2.5), 22 swap, 23 1st

Leaves you with about 40 mill still to spend in free agency.

If you trade the 3 you can get Lillard potentially.


So what is your handle on BBI?
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Post#651 » by ZKnicks » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:52 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
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RShahNyC89 wrote:Any chance at all we have ammo enough to move into the top 4? I want Jalen Suggs bad. Perfect 2 way thibs player with winning intangibles.

Like even a ridiculous 4-5 pick offer wouldn’t cut it would it?

If we include RJ and Quickley in a package there’s a small chance


RJ is well loved in Toronto lol.


Could you expand that to say a base of RJ and Randle for Siakam and 4? Rumor is that they are shopping Siakam lately. Obviously some other pieces or picks thrown in from one side or the other to make it work.
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Post#652 » by NYF13 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:53 am

There are lots of dumb people who keeps insinuating that RJ and Obi be included in deals. The problem is it’s not just RJ or Obi. IQ and Knox will not be included in any trade as well. They will keep the core along with Randle.

However Mitch’s personality is a little questionable to the team. “Tough to read”.

So a s&T of Bullock (w/clippers that’s where you hear the shamet rumor btw) or Burks or someone else comes into the picture.

I was 100% sure Rose would be back before and now I am at 75% confidence level though.
In short, all I am saying is RJ-Brunson-Grimes-Quickley-Randle are the untouchables moving forward.
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Post#653 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:23 am

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I thought Shai wasn't on the right timeline as their plans tho. Considering Sexton is due to be paid too, this doesn't make much sense.

I'm calling cap!


It certainly feels like misinformation in light of the previous reports.


IMO the SGA trade talk was about them wanting a top 3 pick (maybe a top 4 pick) if they can't get that guy, then they may as well start cashing in. Sexton-SGA is a nice back court. They sure as hell ain't giving up 6, so you add that to Kuminga (ideally Barnes) Kenrich Williams and then they can sign Holmes, Noel etc
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Post#654 » by cgmw » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:56 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
RShahNyC89 wrote:Any chance at all we have ammo enough to move into the top 4? I want Jalen Suggs bad. Perfect 2 way thibs player with winning intangibles.

Like even a ridiculous 4-5 pick offer wouldn’t cut it would it?

If we include RJ and Quickley in a package there’s a small chance


RJ is well loved in Toronto lol.

Funniest part of trading up to 2, 3 or 4 would be the moment it becomes clear to fans that the pick is getting immediately flipped for Dame.
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Post#655 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:11 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
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I thought Shai wasn't on the right timeline as their plans tho. Considering Sexton is due to be paid too, this doesn't make much sense.

I'm calling cap!


It certainly feels like misinformation in light of the previous reports.


IMO the SGA trade talk was about them wanting a top 3 pick (maybe a top 4 pick) if they can't get that guy, then they may as well start cashing in. Sexton-SGA is a nice back court. They sure as hell ain't giving up 6, so you add that to Kuminga (ideally Barnes) Kenrich Williams and then they can sign Holmes, Noel etc


The 2nd offer from OKC to CLE which was apparently was turned down was SGA AND 6 for 3. Apparently many consider this a 3 or 4 man draft then a big drop to the next tier. Going from Superstar to potential stars.

SGA is on a sooner timeline to get paid, Sexton is on a sooner timeline to get paid and redundant to Garland whom Cavs like more. Economics certainly play a role for some owners/markets/teams.

If we aquire 3 we can likely get SGA and 6. We could give:

RJ, Obi, Knox, Noel (S&T) and pick 21, 2023 Dal 1st to Cleveland for Sexton, 3, Prince(salary dump)

Then give 3 to OKC for SGA and 6

Then give Sexton, Pick 6, Pick 19, 2023 NYR 1st, 2022 right to swap to POR for Lillard.

Then sign Derozan (if he can fit under cap) or Oubre

Line-up:

Mitch/MLE
Randle/Prince
Derozan or Oubre/Vet Min
Lillard/Quickley
SGA/Lillard
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Post#656 » by snadler » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:40 pm

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Post#658 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:49 pm

NYF13 wrote:There are lots of dumb people who keeps insinuating that RJ and Obi be included in deals. The problem is it’s not just RJ or Obi. IQ and Knox will not be included in any trade as well. They will keep the core along with Randle.

However Mitch’s personality is a little questionable to the team. “Tough to read”.

So a s&T of Bullock (w/clippers that’s where you hear the shamet rumor btw) or Burks or someone else comes into the picture.

I was 100% sure Rose would be back before and now I am at 75% confidence level though.


How are UFA or RFA players put into trades in the draft when FA is two days after the draft?

Not being critical, I see this come up all the time and is curious how it works.
Does RFA work because the team still has "rights"?
I get this stuff can be worked out between the two teams, player, agent, but was wondering about the logistics, particularly UFA - unless no one is speculating them into deals.
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