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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#641 » by ezmoney707 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:18 pm

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I feel like Harris got away with some garbage in the first half but the 2nd half made up for it.

I don't mind the violence at all. They wanna chirp and play physical that's cool it's a two way street.

They're lucky that there aren't any goons in this group because someone would have gotten clubbed already for all that jawing with KAT.


we got PJ, but it's not that serious.

That’s funny part if the team actually felt like there was some real goons on their team, I think Thibs would have a played PJ a few minutes in this series just to match their “physicality” but they not them guys lol
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#643 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:22 pm

Brunson 30 & 10 games as a Knick in the postseason: 5

30 & 10 postseason games for every other player in Knicks history: 3

I know the title of the thread is praising KAT, but this was really the Brunson game and this is definitely his team.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#644 » by nedleeds » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:26 pm

Just watched the replay over a 4 egg omelet. Timmy got fouled, but the game was played with prison rape mode on. If that last 5 minutes doesn't convince you of how terrible Thibs and his staff are with offensive basketball I'm not sure what to tell you. The whole offense should flow through KAT, because if it doesn't you basically are paying Christian Wood $60 million.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#645 » by LFGK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:27 pm

GONYK wrote:Brunson 30 & 10 games as a Knick in the postseason: 5

30 & 10 postseason games for every other player in Knicks history: 3

I know the title of the thread is praising KAT, but this was really the Brunson game and this is definitely his team.



I mean this is debatable, without the Kat ridiculous fadeaway, couple 3 balls we don't win this game. KAT is equally important to this team as Brunson. One can also argue we are better off how the offense has been the last 2 games with it running through KAT, makes things easier to Brunson, he doesnt have to shoulder the load and can do what he does best in the 4th late.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#646 » by Fury » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:30 pm

nedleeds wrote:Just watched the replay over a 4 egg omelet. Timmy got fouled, but the game was played with prison rape mode on. If that last 5 minutes doesn't convince you of how terrible Thibs and his staff are with offensive basketball I'm not sure what to tell you. The whole offense should flow through KAT, because if it doesn't you basically are paying Christian Wood $60 million.


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Post#647 » by Enzo954 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:31 pm

Assaults like this go unnoticed the entire game, and then Detroit complains like a bunch of babies about a last-second scramble at the end of regulation where Timmy waits for Hart to be mid-air and adjacent to him before slightly side-jumping into Hart, trying to draw a foul on a desperate three-pointer.

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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#648 » by Fury » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:32 pm

Enzo954 wrote:Assaults like this go unnoticed the entire game, and then Detroit complains like a bunch of babies about a last-second scramble at the end of regulation where Timmy waits for Hart to be mid-air and adjacent to him before slightly side-jumping into Hart, trying to draw a foul on a desperate three-pointer.

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Post#649 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:42 pm

sol537 wrote:Our bench has been absolute trash this series except for game one Payne. Mitch and Deuce, in particular, have been pretty invisible. It's surprising and disappointing. Not sure what's going on with them.

Wright and Precious would have probably given us more, in hindsight.


other than game one they haven't played much at all. Mitch is dealing with illness. We damn sure could have tried to switch it up but, Thibs doesn't roll like that. Our bench only got real burn when Jalen was out to end the season. This is the least amount of bench minutes for a team in like 20 years or something. Is anyone really surprised they struggle getting 9 minutes a game once in a while.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#650 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:42 pm

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GONYK wrote:Brunson 30 & 10 games as a Knick in the postseason: 5

30 & 10 postseason games for every other player in Knicks history: 3

I know the title of the thread is praising KAT, but this was really the Brunson game and this is definitely his team.



I mean this is debatable, without the Kat ridiculous fadeaway, couple 3 balls we don't win this game. KAT is equally important to this team as Brunson. One can also argue we are better off how the offense has been the last 2 games with it running through KAT, makes things easier to Brunson, he doesnt have to shoulder the load and can do what he does best in the 4th late.


I don't know if you're talking about whose game or whose team this is, but I don't think either is debatable.

KAT had a pretty uneven 3rd quarter without Brunson was a large reason we were in a hole.

Brunson brought us all the way back by nearly by himself (hi Mikal) and KAT brought us home. Both were needed, but the order of operations matters.

As far as whose team this is, KAT himself says they all follow Brunson's lead.

I'm not starting a war here. I love both guys, but there is only one Captain.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#651 » by nedleeds » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:46 pm

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nedleeds wrote:Just watched the replay over a 4 egg omelet. Timmy got fouled, but the game was played with prison rape mode on. If that last 5 minutes doesn't convince you of how terrible Thibs and his staff are with offensive basketball I'm not sure what to tell you. The whole offense should flow through KAT, because if it doesn't you basically are paying Christian Wood $60 million.


This paragraph was a rollercoaster ride


Down 11 with like 8 to go I wanted to just turn it off, the coaching was so terrible. The 2 or 3 (i forget) Brunson shots around 5-4:00 were pure garbage junk heaves with 4 dudes jerking their meat. It's like thibs goes into the :30 second offense at tip off. It's fun to win but 5 or 6 made junk chuck no offense heaves to beat the Pistons is embarrassing. Go look at those last 6 or 7 possessions and ask yourself if we even have a coach or an offense?

Basically I'm saying it's frustrating the way we struggle with Cade and the G-League quartet and then Thibs gets off the hook because KAT makes a step back 42 footer.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#652 » by Stannis » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:50 pm

GONYK wrote:I know the title of the thread is praising KAT, but this was really the Brunson game and this is definitely his team.


For sho.

But I think the idea is if we play this game last year (without KAT) and Brunson puts on this performance, we likely lose. Brunson didn't really have an offensive weapon last year to rely on and help bail out the team in tough situations.

That's at least how I am taking the KAT praise. Definitely not about questioning who's the captain or whose team this is.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#653 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:53 pm

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GONYK wrote:I know the title of the thread is praising KAT, but this was really the Brunson game and this is definitely his team.


For sho.

But I think the idea is if we play this game last year (without KAT) and Brunson puts on this performance, we likely lose. Brunson didn't really have an offensive weapon last year to rely on and help bail out the team in tough situations.

That's at least how I am taking the KAT praise. Definitely not about questioning who's the captain or whose team this is.


Oh yea, both are necessary to be the stars they are for this version of the team to be at its best.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#654 » by god shammgod » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:58 pm

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GONYK wrote:Brunson 30 & 10 games as a Knick in the postseason: 5

30 & 10 postseason games for every other player in Knicks history: 3

I know the title of the thread is praising KAT, but this was really the Brunson game and this is definitely his team.



I mean this is debatable, without the Kat ridiculous fadeaway, couple 3 balls we don't win this game. KAT is equally important to this team as Brunson. One can also argue we are better off how the offense has been the last 2 games with it running through KAT, makes things easier to Brunson, he doesnt have to shoulder the load and can do what he does best in the 4th late.


I don't know if you're talking about whose game or whose team this is, but I don't think either is debatable.

KAT had a pretty uneven 3rd quarter without Brunson was a large reason we were in a hole.

Brunson brought us all the way back by nearly by himself (hi Mikal) and KAT brought us home. Both were needed, but the order of operations matters.

As far as whose team this is, KAT himself says they all follow Brunson's lead.

I'm not starting a war here. I love both guys, but there is only one Captain.


Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.
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Post#656 » by ScienceOfLosing » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:03 pm

aromeoj wrote:So 3-1 lead - Am i on the only watching the other playoff series looking at the TV crazy. There is not 1 series as physical as this one. Not sure if the NBA wants this or what. But this is straight football both ways. My My...back to the 90's what a day to be alive.


We played this way the whole season in the 90’s.
This season, it’s just the playoffs.

Orlando was getting very physical w Boston though.
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Post#657 » by Enzo954 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:03 pm

Now we're debating the thread title? SMH

We won due to Kat and Brunson. IMO Kat got his name in the thread title because those shots he made during the final minutes were more memorable and insanely difficult. It's hard to deny how clutch those were.
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Post#658 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:06 pm

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I mean this is debatable, without the Kat ridiculous fadeaway, couple 3 balls we don't win this game. KAT is equally important to this team as Brunson. One can also argue we are better off how the offense has been the last 2 games with it running through KAT, makes things easier to Brunson, he doesnt have to shoulder the load and can do what he does best in the 4th late.


I don't know if you're talking about whose game or whose team this is, but I don't think either is debatable.

KAT had a pretty uneven 3rd quarter without Brunson was a large reason we were in a hole.

Brunson brought us all the way back by nearly by himself (hi Mikal) and KAT brought us home. Both were needed, but the order of operations matters.

As far as whose team this is, KAT himself says they all follow Brunson's lead.

I'm not starting a war here. I love both guys, but there is only one Captain.


Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.



I do think getting KAT going early is more important than getting Brunson going. Brunson floor game yesterday was elite. He had like 7 assists or something like that in the 1st half getting his teammates invovled.

When it comes closing time I want the ball in brunson hands...if he's one on one he cooks if they blitz or double he reads it and finds an open teammate.

But there should be no question on who's team it is...Brunson is the straw that stirs the drink. It just vital that KAT at points in the game is not ignored and he needs his touches...as most bigs do since it tough for them to simply create there own offense.
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Post#659 » by ScienceOfLosing » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:07 pm

nedleeds wrote:Just watched the replay over a 4 egg omelet. Timmy got fouled, but the game was played with prison rape mode on. If that last 5 minutes doesn't convince you of how terrible Thibs and his staff are with offensive basketball I'm not sure what to tell you. The whole offense should flow through KAT, because if it doesn't you basically are paying Christian Wood $60 million.


Yep, when KAT is more involved, the offense flows.
Brunson is clutch but I think at the expense of everyones play. (That said, Brunson can dish the ball. He needs to get the team involved earlier in games, in general.)
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Post#660 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:08 pm

Brunson is still the Cap but KAT is one of those dudes you really have to empower. I've loved KAT upping his three point rate this series, and I was pumped with him taking big shots yesterday. We need that aggressiveness. Brunson...he's always going to be there when you need him.

With Brunson, he can play offball too, and that's also a weapon for him. He's not just an on-ball guy. If they can work with that, then I'm all for it. We've really missed iHart in that regard imo. Quick decisionmaker with the ball.

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