PG: Out of our Misery

[Laertes]

I'd like to see Thibs retire, but I doubt it's gonna happen. I believe they will hire a new assistant, an offensive coordinator, and Thibs will be aware that he could be fired any time if he continues in the same way, especially regarding developing the bench.
I hope that KAT will make an effort during summer, working on his defence and dumb fouls (someone suggested working with Hakeem, and now Ewing is in the club). Mitch should shoot a milion FTs. In the camp, the priority is JB-KAT two-man-offence.
I still believe!

[god shammgod]

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[Reign23]

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so glad to see him back and getting into shape. Tho, I think his +/- stuff cratered in the last few game because he had to be out there too much.
lets hope he stays healthy for once. We need his rim protection badly.

[Janquinn87]

Last year Knick team with Hartenstein and Donte would have been swept by this year Pacers team. Kat and Bridges are way more superior players and we still lost.

[seren]

This was a disappointing loss for me. They didn’t show the grit they had all playoffs. Can’t go out like that. Where was the fight?

[cgmw]

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Salutations from my 8am flight. Lots of fellow morons in the departure lounge. I’ll compose a wrap-up message on the flight. Or I’ll fall asleep, whichever happens first.

[Knicks218]

We had a good season, we went further this year. We will make some moves this off season.

OG, Bridges, Mitch, Duce. For Giannis, Dame. Works in Trade Machine. Sign Bruce Brown.

PG- Brunson/Dame
SG-Brown
SF-Hart
PF-Giannis
C-Towns

[Wildcat]

I'm still pretty irate on this lost. Putting this squarely on KAT, Hart, JB, and Thibs. I canny believe these 18 TO lead to 36 PTS. Losing a disciplined game is one thing, but losing like this? Pathetic. More so now that ESPN or any other national basketball sports program is basically unwatchable until draft night. This team let me down.

[Wildcat]

Last year Knick team with Hartenstein and Donte would have been swept by this year Pacers team. Kat and Bridges are way more superior players and we still lost.

I-Hart, DDV, OG, and Randle would absolutely not be swept. Thank you and good day, sir.

[gavran]

We had a good season, we went further this year. We will make some moves this off season.

OG, Bridges, Mitch, Duce. For Giannis, Dame. Works in Trade Machine. Sign Bruce Brown.

PG- Brunson/Dame
SG-Brown
SF-Hart
PF-Giannis
C-Towns

You should have stopped after "we".

[Adelheid]

the game 1 finish has to be talked about some more. The knicks were clear as daylight, in the driver's seat aplenty in the dying moments of game regulation, then the bull rally happened. It was literally a knicks victory thrown in the trash bin in exchange for defeat. I have a hard time accepting g1 as a loss

if that loss did not happen, would have been 3-3

[Wildcat]

Hart becoming Nick Anderson before our eyes.

[K_ick_God]

The other thing is that Mikal is not really a 2

We have no true 2s. Deuce is a small 2

Mikal is a 3 and OG has the quickness of a 4

And that’s even if you think either/both are quality starters

[cgmw]

This was a disappointing loss for me. They didn’t show the grit they had all playoffs. Can’t go out like that. Where was the fight?

So being there and being close to the bench, I will say this game was likely over in the first five possessions of the first Q because the crowd was so loud that it became a thing. This was the kind of atmosphere that only happens once every few years in a do-or-die home playoff elimination-closeout game in a city that actually cares about its team.

The fans treated it like a Game 7 and there’s a reason the home team wins 90%+ of Game 7s. To sustain the composure and energy needed to even hear your teammates let alone make shots/FTs was a tall task and clearly beyond what this group had left in the tank.

IMO our one and only chance was Brunson going god-mode, but it just wasn’t in the cards. Frustrating way to go out, but the crowd was a major factor in the TOs, missed FTs, and leaked run outs (our guys couldn’t yell for help back).

This series was over the moment Halliburton’s miracle three dropped in the hoop Game 1.

I’m wheels up with no Skyfi. Might write more later. Idk.

[Iron Mantis]

I'm still pretty irate on this lost. Putting this squarely on KAT, Hart, JB, and Thibs. I canny believe these 18 TO lead to 36 PTS. Losing a disciplined game is one thing, but losing like this? Pathetic. More so now that ESPN or any other national basketball sports program is basically unwatchable until draft night. This team let me down.

You should see the points conceded off turnovers for the entire series

Pacers:
4
12
8
9
15
13

Total: 61

Knicks:
27
17
20
22
20
34

Total: 140


79 points difference. 13.1 point avg swing over the course of 6 games In a series where each game was decided by an avg of less than 10 points.

Indiana's whole offense this series was capitalizing on Knicks turnovers. The Knicks beat themselves with countless head-scratching turnovers that gave Indy easy buckets and momentum . If the Knicks took better care of the ball, it wouldn't have ended like this.

[El Poochio]

I cant blame any of the players, there was just too much on their plate. Look at Indiana’s depth and look at ours. Brunson - KAT defense together is a problem though teams will keep targeting that

[HEZI]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

Wright could but he's not good enough to play that role. Who are players like him but younger and better?

Ayo Dosunmu could be that especially on the right team. He can bring that Derrick White type of value to a team if he goes to the right one. Not sure what Bulls would want for him but I’d be intrigued

[Enzo954]

If the current squad sticks around:

Thibs has to develop and trust his bench. The wearing down the starters every year needs to end. He also needs an offensive coordinator.

JB needs to slow down the with hero ball, running down the clock every possession nonsense and trust his teammates more.

Kat needs to spend the entire off season with Ewing or another old school defensive big to teach him how to play some damn defense. Also, smack some sense into him about dumb fouls.

Hart needs to be a sixth man and cut out risky passes that seem to rarely work out. Practice the 3 ball shooting also.

Mitch needs to work on free throws and learn some type of post game. Enough of the highlight clips of him shooting 3's in the gym.

Mikal needs to fix that shot of his and not be scared of contact in the paint.

[MrDollarBills]

If the current squad sticks around:

Thibs has to develop and trust his bench. The wearing down the starters every year needs to end. He also needs an offensive coordinator.

JB needs to slow down the with hero ball, running down the clock every possession nonsense and trust his teammates more.

Kat needs to spend the entire off season with Ewing or another old school defensive big to teach him how to play some damn defense. Also, smack some sense into him about dumb fouls.

Hart needs to be a sixth man and cut out risky passes that seem to rarely work out. Practice the 3 ball shooting also.

Mitch needs to work on free throws and learn some type of post game. Enough of the highlight clips of him shooting 3's in the gym.

Mikal needs to fix that shot of his and not be scared of contact in the paint.

Your first two points are things that can be fixed:

1) There needs to be a mandate from up top that Tom needs to ensure that the bench is developed during the season. We have Kolek, Dadiet, and Hukporti on cheap deals and they all have upside. Coach them and use them. There should never be a case where we wait til MAY to start using the bench.

2) JB's on ball issues can be fixed by getting our "Eric Snow" PG and letting Brunson play SG off ball.


Everything else? I don't see an easy fix.

[MrDollarBills]

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

Wright could but he's not good enough to play that role. Who are players like him but younger and better?

Ayo Dosunmu could be that especially on the right team. He can bring that Derrick White type of value to a team if he goes to the right one. Not sure what Bulls would want for him but I’d be intrigued

That could be an option. He's the kind of guard I had in mind.