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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#661 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:35 am

I wanted Bernie bad. He was set up in the New York primary. Rigged
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Re: RE: Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#662 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:36 am

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Sometimes, I wonder why Bernie Sanders didn't go 3rd party.



That would have handed the election to Trump.


Bernie was consistently thrashing Trump in head-to-head polls during primary season. It makes sense too. Both are perceived as populist candidates (though only one of them actually is), but Bernie has the benefit of not being a total moron.

He was winning in head to head polls. It would not have been a head to head match-up if he ran third party.

It would have split the Democrats vote, and Trump would be the ultimate winner of that situation.
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Post#663 » by Mike Breen » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:38 am

GONYK wrote:
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:

That would have handed the election to Trump.


Bernie was consistently thrashing Trump in head-to-head polls during primary season. It makes sense too. Both are perceived as populist candidates (though only one of them actually is), but Bernie has the benefit of not being a total moron.

He was winning in head to head polls. It would not have been a head to head match-up if he ran third party.

It would have split the Democrats vote, and Trump would be the ultimate winner of that situation.


I agree 100%. I was saying that he had a strong chance of beating Trump if he won the D ticket.
And just like that, the lead has been cut to 8!

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Post#664 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:46 am

Mike Breen wrote:
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Mike Breen wrote:
Bernie was consistently thrashing Trump in head-to-head polls during primary season. It makes sense too. Both are perceived as populist candidates (though only one of them actually is), but Bernie has the benefit of not being a total moron.

He was winning in head to head polls. It would not have been a head to head match-up if he ran third party.

It would have split the Democrats vote, and Trump would be the ultimate winner of that situation.


I agree 100%. I was saying that he had a strong chance of beating Trump if he won the D ticket.

Agreed.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#665 » by Jose7 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:48 am

Trump supporters who aren't one or a combination of racist, xenophobic, sexist, anti LBGT, anti choice, no sensitivity to mental health or crazy religious person.. yeah they don't exist..
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#666 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:51 am

3toheadmelo wrote:I wanted Bernie bad. He was set up in the New York primary. Rigged


Yeah, me too, but we're at where we're at. I'll tell you what, though. If Hillary f*cks us and goes rogue, we will find somebody to run against her in four years.
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Re: RE: Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#667 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:52 am

Mike Breen wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Mike Breen wrote:
Bernie was consistently thrashing Trump in head-to-head polls during primary season. It makes sense too. Both are perceived as populist candidates (though only one of them actually is), but Bernie has the benefit of not being a total moron.

He was winning in head to head polls. It would not have been a head to head match-up if he ran third party.

It would have split the Democrats vote, and Trump would be the ultimate winner of that situation.


I agree 100%. I was saying that he had a strong chance of beating Trump if he won the D ticket.


The polls during the primaries showed Bernie beating Trump by much greater margins than Hillary.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#668 » by Starks » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:48 pm

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CJackson wrote:Oh this one is better though



Watching this and seeing them saying him punching a woman or being a pedophile I realized how few Americans know jack when there is available information out there that a deposition was made identifying trump as raping a 13 year old.

Here is her testimony:

I traveled by bus to New York City in June 1994 in the hope of starting a modeling career. I went to several modeling agencies but was told that I needed to put together a modeling portfolio before I would be considered. I then went to the Port Authority in New York City to start to make my way back home. There I met a woman who introduced herself to me as Tiffany. She told me about the parties and said that, if I would join her at the parties, I would be introduced to people who could get me into the modeling profession. Tiffany also told me I would be paid for attending.

The parties were held at a New York City residence that was being used by Defendant Jeffrey Epstein. Each of the parties had other minor females and a number of guests of Mr. Epstein, including Defendant Donald Trump at four of the parties I attended. I understood that both Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein knew I was 13 years old.

Defendant Trump had sexual contact with me at four different parties in the summer of 1994. On the fourth and fnial sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied me to a bed, exposed himself to me, and then proceeded to forcibly rape me. During the course of this savage sexual attack, I loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but he did not. Defendant Trump responded to my pleas by violently striking me in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted, Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump's sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I wold be physically harmed if not killed.


That came from this:

Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit

What is really bizarre about Trump is both him and Clinton are associated with Epstein. That he keeps going after Bill for cheating when Trump is a cheater but the one with failed marriages is really, really hard to understand. Trump is nuts of course, that's why


I hate this man as much as the next guy but come on, this is hard to believe. Stuff happens in 1994 and she coincidentally files a lawsuit in april 2016?



When dealing with Rich and Powerful men, I'm more surprised she came out at all as opposed to being surprised that she waited so long. Just cause she waited does not mean she wasn't raped. Bill Cosby anyone????? Heck, guys really shouldn't even be chiming in with opinion on this. Yeah we can be raped but, its a very different dynamic. Unless you are sodomized, there is no "Internal Violation" of your body. External violated can be devastating but, its different when the violation is internal. At least this is MY belief.


It has nothing to do with giving an opinion on how it feels to be raped, what are you talking about?

I'm questioning the truth of those allegations, how does being a man have anything to do with it?

Of course there's always the possibility of it actually being true, but still anything coming out during election campaigns I take with a grain of salt. Rich and powerful men are easy targets, especially when it benefits some people on the other side, nothing new there.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#669 » by Handledatruth » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:00 pm

I would be shocked to see a rich white male get "Bill Cosbied", but I'm intrigued. And this is not to defend Bill Cosby, but instead to show the pattern of accumulated allegations coming out just as the accused was attempting to do something important on a national level.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#670 » by NYKAL » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:10 pm

Starks wrote:
NYKAL wrote:
Starks wrote:
I hate this man as much as the next guy but come on, this is hard to believe. Stuff happens in 1994 and she coincidentally files a lawsuit in april 2016?



When dealing with Rich and Powerful men, I'm more surprised she came out at all as opposed to being surprised that she waited so long. Just cause she waited does not mean she wasn't raped. Bill Cosby anyone????? Heck, guys really shouldn't even be chiming in with opinion on this. Yeah we can be raped but, its a very different dynamic. Unless you are sodomized, there is no "Internal Violation" of your body. External violated can be devastating but, its different when the violation is internal. At least this is MY belief.


It has nothing to do with giving an opinion on how it feels to be raped, what are you talking about?

I'm questioning the truth of those allegations, how does being a man have anything to do with it?

Of course there's always the possibility of it actually being true, but still anything coming out during election campaigns I take with a grain of salt. Rich and powerful men are easy targets, especially when it benefits some people on the other side, nothing new there.


It is exactly what happens when people who run have skeletons in their closet. What your saying would mean that John Edwards was wronged when his fukery came out killing any chance he had of becoming president.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#671 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:19 pm

Well, whatever you believe regarding the truth and/or timing of some of Trump's accusers, it's pretty clear the Dems have taken the gloves off and are getting down and dirty in the campaign. Ah, Politics. It's lovely.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#672 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:30 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Well, whatever you believe regarding the truth and/or timing of some of Trump's accusers, it's pretty clear the Dems have taken the gloves off and are getting down and dirty in the campaign. Ah, Politics. It's lovely.


It's clear that this was going to happen once Trump explicitly said in the debate that he never did any of the things he bragged about doing in his "locker room talk"
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Post#673 » by mrcalzone » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:34 pm

I'm so excited Hillary Clinton is going to be president. I can't wait for such a pure, innocent, non corrupt politician to finally enter office. It's not like she will use her position of power for her own financial gain or anything. Nothing more exciting than a 70 year old with health problems who is going to take office.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#674 » by Amsterdam » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:37 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I wanted Bernie bad. He was set up in the New York primary. Rigged


Yeah, me too, but we're at where we're at. I'll tell you what, though. If Hillary f*cks us and goes rogue, we will find somebody to run against her in four years.



Forget it, she is as untouchable now as it gets.

And with Presidential carte blanche, this is going to change the checks and balances within our Government, that provided legislative controls of presidential unlimited power.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#675 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:39 pm

mrcalzone wrote:I'm so excited Hillary Clinton is going to be president. I can't wait for such a pure, innocent, non corrupt politician to finally enter office. It's not like she will use her position of power for her own financial gain or anything. Nothing more exciting than a 70 year old with health problems who is going to take office.


Hillary is younger than Trump, and actually provided real medical records.

And I don't think the claim that Trump is pure, innocent, or non-corrupt would hold up
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#676 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:41 pm

GONYK wrote:
mrcalzone wrote:I'm so excited Hillary Clinton is going to be president. I can't wait for such a pure, innocent, non corrupt politician to finally enter office. It's not like she will use her position of power for her own financial gain or anything. Nothing more exciting than a 70 year old with health problems who is going to take office.


Hillary is younger than Trump, and actually provided real medical records.

And I don't think the claim that Trump is pure, innocent, or non-corrupt would hold up


Also, Trump is (trying to use/) using his campaign for financial gain. It would only get worse if, God forbid, he won the election.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#677 » by mrcalzone » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:43 pm

GONYK wrote:
mrcalzone wrote:I'm so excited Hillary Clinton is going to be president. I can't wait for such a pure, innocent, non corrupt politician to finally enter office. It's not like she will use her position of power for her own financial gain or anything. Nothing more exciting than a 70 year old with health problems who is going to take office.


Hillary is younger than Trump, and actually provided real medical records.

And I don't think the claim that Trump is pure, innocent, or non-corrupt would hold up


I'm not arguing that Trump is healthier or isn't corrupt.

This is more an indictment on the entire political system, not one candidate.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#678 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:43 pm

mrcalzone wrote:
GONYK wrote:
mrcalzone wrote:I'm so excited Hillary Clinton is going to be president. I can't wait for such a pure, innocent, non corrupt politician to finally enter office. It's not like she will use her position of power for her own financial gain or anything. Nothing more exciting than a 70 year old with health problems who is going to take office.


Hillary is younger than Trump, and actually provided real medical records.

And I don't think the claim that Trump is pure, innocent, or non-corrupt would hold up


I'm not arguing that Trump is healthier or isn't corrupt.

This is more an indictment on the entire political system, not one candidate.


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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#679 » by Amsterdam » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:43 pm

mrcalzone wrote:I'm so excited Hillary Clinton is going to be president. I can't wait for such a pure, innocent, non corrupt politician to finally enter office. It's not like she will use her position of power for her own financial gain or anything. Nothing more exciting than a 70 year old with health problems who is going to take office.



Exactly
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#680 » by K_ick_God » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:49 pm

Now he's saying the women's stories are totally fabricated. Doubt it! Why is he mentioning how old the allegations are? Usually when people are making up things entirely, how old the made-up allegations are is not foremost in your mind.

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