Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[NYKMentality85]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

[blueNorange]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

first off a point forward is a point guard that happens to be big and strong enough to play the forward spot, so magic johnson was a pure pg but technically a point forward.

second no starks and ewing wouldn't, i never saw them play but based off documentaries they were a TEAM and played DEFENSE. they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

[Melo2Porzy]

We have to sign an all-star caliber player if we want to take that next step. We aren't winning a championship this year and if we make it to the second round next year melo will be turning 34 years old, he is going to decline. Melo and Porzingis primes are just barely going to miss each other.

I don't mind Rose as a third option but that role is reserved for Melo. Melo-Porzingis-Rose is not good enough to win a championship, Im sorry its the truth. we need to spend our free agent money on an all-star to pair with KP and not Derrick Rose. If we can't get that all-star at the trade deadline or free agency then yeah ok we can re-sign rose but its gotta be a short deal.

I hate when people 'know' what's going to happen or if it's impossible for something to happen. SIt back, chill out and just be a fan of the game. Enjoy the progress of the team. Root for the unthinkable. Makes it more fun

[NYKMentality85]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

no they wouldn't, they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

Maybe you fotgot the years N.Y lacked a true 3rd scoring option alongside of Starks and Ewing? Because i haven't.

N.Y had more than enough tough defenders with the likes of Starks, Mason, Oakley & Ewing. What we had was at times a very frustrating offense due to a lack of a true 3rd scoring option alongside of both Starks & Ewing. Derrick Rose would've been accepted (and loved) with open arms.

[Dantares]

We have to sign an all-star caliber player if we want to take that next step. We aren't winning a championship this year and if we make it to the second round next year melo will be turning 34 years old, he is going to decline. Melo and Porzingis primes are just barely going to miss each other.

I don't mind Rose as a third option but that role is reserved for Melo. Melo-Porzingis-Rose is not good enough to win a championship, Im sorry its the truth. we need to spend our free agent money on an all-star to pair with KP and not Derrick Rose. If we can't get that all-star at the trade deadline or free agency then yeah ok we can re-sign rose but its gotta be a short deal.

I hate when people 'know' what's going to happen or if it's impossible for something to happen. SIt back, chill out and just be a fan of the game. Enjoy the progress of the team. Root for the unthinkable. Makes it more fun

true, gotta enjoy the moment.

[blueNorange]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

no they wouldn't, they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

Maybe you fotgot the years N.Y lacked a true 3rd scoring option alongside of Starks and Ewing? Because i haven't.

N.Y had more than enough tough defenders with the likes of Starks, Mason, Oakley & Ewing. What we had was at times a very frustrating offense due to a lack of a true 3rd scoring option alongside of both Starks & Ewing. Derrick Rose would've been accepted (and loved) with open arms.

i'm not going to get into this scenario that has zero purpose to what's happening now. scoring aside, derrick rose does nothing that benefits THE TEAM.

all you do is post sample sizes and fg%, but nothing else because you know he can't run an offense. you see it. this team is better when ennings runs the point and that's because he sets guys up.

[Melo2Porzy]

no they wouldn't, they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

Maybe you fotgot the years N.Y lacked a true 3rd scoring option alongside of Starks and Ewing? Because i haven't.

N.Y had more than enough tough defenders with the likes of Starks, Mason, Oakley & Ewing. What we had was at times a very frustrating offense due to a lack of a true 3rd scoring option alongside of both Starks & Ewing. Derrick Rose would've been accepted (and loved) with open arms.

i'm not going to get into this scenario that has zero purpose to what's happening now. scoring aside, derrick rose does nothing that benefits THE TEAM.

all you do is post sample sizes and fg%, but nothing else because you know he can't run an offense. you see it. this team is better when ennings runs the point and that's because he sets guys up.

Yes, if we set aside the things one brings that benefits, one brings nothing that benefits...the **** is this BS?

[blueNorange]

Maybe you fotgot the years N.Y lacked a true 3rd scoring option alongside of Starks and Ewing? Because i haven't.

N.Y had more than enough tough defenders with the likes of Starks, Mason, Oakley & Ewing. What we had was at times a very frustrating offense due to a lack of a true 3rd scoring option alongside of both Starks & Ewing. Derrick Rose would've been accepted (and loved) with open arms.

i'm not going to get into this scenario that has zero purpose to what's happening now. scoring aside, derrick rose does nothing that benefits THE TEAM.

all you do is post sample sizes and fg%, but nothing else because you know he can't run an offense. you see it. this team is better when ennings runs the point and that's because he sets guys up.

Yes, if we set aside the things one brings that benefits, one brings nothing that benefits...the **** is this BS?

wait so you want to lockup a one trick pony?

hasn't watching eddy curry taught you one trick ponies aren't good.

[HEZI]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

Exactly!

Relying on one person to be your main distributor is a recipe for disaster. I love KP but let's be real, he's not exactly a gifted passer right now and does very little when it comes to creating anything for others. Some of the greatest big men had success in the league because they were gifted passers. Shaq as dominant of a scorer as he was, created A LOT for his teammates. Karl Malone as great as he was, created A LOT for his teammates. Tim Duncan as great as he was, created A LOT for his teammates. Even Blake Griffin creates a lot for his team despite them having Chris Paul, Blake Griffin is one of the best passers in the league. The Golden State Warriors have Draymond Green, yes sure, but Kevin Durant averages 4.7 assists per game. The early 2000's Sacramento Kings got rid of Jason Williams who was a gifted passer and replaced him with a scorer in Mike Bibby and found more success because they had great passing big men.

You need good passers throughout the roster especially in the modern NBA where we are essentially in a position-less era

[HerSports85]

How can anyone even make a solid judgement on should we sign Rose to an extension or not? He has played in one system his entire career where he was the main option. Like i said before it will take time for him to adjust and he definitely has the last 3 games. People also forget that he missed valuable practice time with the team.

However in my opinion, Rose can be the PG we need. Right now he's only lacking in the passing department. His mid range game is good, he can get to the basket whenever he wants, he defense has improved, he's vocal and so on. Once he learn how to kick it back once he drives and keep his head up, he will be fine. Luckily we have one of the best .. horny teaching him.

[NYKMentality85]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

second no starks and ewing wouldn't,

i never saw them play but based off documentaries they were a TEAM and played DEFENSE. they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

First and foremost you never seen them play, therefore you really can't tell me jack squat about my Knicks of the early-mid 1990's.

I know exactly what my Knicks needed (and lacked) - which was a 3rd scoring option, specifically an attacking/scoring PG who could've drove to the rim, penetrared defenses, got to the free throw line and explode past defender's at will (especially when the NBA was strictly man-to-man defense back in the 90's).

Ewing would've feasted alongside of an attacking/scoring PG of Rose's caliber as did Shaq alongside of Penny at the 1 in Orlando.

You can watch all the "documentaries" you desire but fans such as myself actually lived through the days of dreaming about Starks & Ewing having a 3rd scoring option.

Don't worry; you'll learn.

[K_ick_God]

i'm not going to get into this scenario that has zero purpose to what's happening now. scoring aside, derrick rose does nothing that benefits THE TEAM.

all you do is post sample sizes and fg%, but nothing else because you know he can't run an offense. you see it. this team is better when ennings runs the point and that's because he sets guys up.

Yes, if we set aside the things one brings that benefits, one brings nothing that benefits...the **** is this BS?

wait so you want to lockup a one trick pony?

hasn't watching eddy curry taught you one trick ponies aren't good.

What do you think of what Brandon Jennings has done so far? Has he added pure point play? Is it worth it?

[blueNorange]

"hey derrick, i know you can only run what 1-2 maybe 3 plays but don't worry. it's not your fault. kristaps needs to learn how to pass the ball better, you're fine. just keep you head down and keep driving to the basket."

[HEZI]

If Patrick Ewing's Knicks had Allen Iverson instead of Charlie Ward, they would have a championship

[blueNorange]

Unfortunately some of the greatest pure PG's (known as facilitators) in John Stockton, Steve Nash, Mark Jackson, Mark Price (severely underrated) and CP3 have never led their teams to a championship. Although they've racked up a lot of assists. Heck, even Jason Kidd ended up with only 1 ring.

I disagree but some would even say that Magic Johnson wasn't a "pure PG" but rather a Point/Forward.

So all of this Rose not being a "pure PG" talk from the likes of bNo should be chalked up as s moot point. I just know that as a longtime Knicks fan, both of Starks & Ewing throughout the 90's would've literally gave their lives in order to play alongside of a 3rd option of Rose's caliber with 20+ point scoring ability.

Breath of fresh air just knowing that both of Anthony & Porzingis have a 3rd option scorer in Derrick Rose.

second no starks and ewing wouldn't,

i never saw them play but based off documentaries they were a TEAM and played DEFENSE. they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

First and foremost you never seen them play, therefore you really can't tell me jack squat about my Knicks of the early-mid 1990's.

I know exactly what my Knicks needed (and lacked) - which was a 3rd scoring option, specifically an attacking/scoring PG who could've drove to the rim, penetrared defenses, got to the free throw line and explode past defender's at will (especially when the NBA was strictly man-to-man defense back in the 90's).

Ewing would've feasted alongside of an attacking/scoring PG of Rose's caliber as did Shaq alongside of Penny at the 1 in Orlando.

You can watch all the "documentaries" you desire but fans such as myself actually lived through the days of dreaming about Starks & Ewing having a 3rd scoring option.

Don't worry; you'll learn.

you. are. comparing. different. eras. in. which. rose. would. not. be. as. effective. because. defenses. would. throw. him. on. the. floor. every. single. time.

[HEZI]

second no starks and ewing wouldn't,

i never saw them play but based off documentaries they were a TEAM and played DEFENSE. they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

First and foremost you never seen them play, therefore you really can't tell me jack squat about my Knicks of the early-mid 1990's.

I know exactly what my Knicks needed (and lacked) - which was a 3rd scoring option, specifically an attacking/scoring PG who could've drove to the rim, penetrared defenses, got to the free throw line and explode past defender's at will (especially when the NBA was strictly man-to-man defense back in the 90's).

Ewing would've feasted alongside of an attacking/scoring PG of Rose's caliber as did Shaq alongside of Penny at the 1 in Orlando.

You can watch all the "documentaries" you desire but fans such as myself actually lived through the days of dreaming about Starks & Ewing having a 3rd scoring option.

Don't worry; you'll learn.

you. are. comparing. different. eras. in. which. rose. would. not. be. as. effective. because. defenses. would. throw. him. on. the. floor. every. single. time.

you.seem.to.know.a lot.about.an.era.of.basketball.which.you.never.even.watched.

[blueNorange]

First and foremost you never seen them play, therefore you really can't tell me jack squat about my Knicks of the early-mid 1990's.

I know exactly what my Knicks needed (and lacked) - which was a 3rd scoring option, specifically an attacking/scoring PG who could've drove to the rim, penetrared defenses, got to the free throw line and explode past defender's at will (especially when the NBA was strictly man-to-man defense back in the 90's).

Ewing would've feasted alongside of an attacking/scoring PG of Rose's caliber as did Shaq alongside of Penny at the 1 in Orlando.

You can watch all the "documentaries" you desire but fans such as myself actually lived through the days of dreaming about Starks & Ewing having a 3rd scoring option.

Don't worry; you'll learn.

you. are. comparing. different. eras. in. which. rose. would. not. be. as. effective. because. defenses. would. throw. him. on. the. floor. every. single. time.

you.seem.to.know.a lot.about.an.era.of.basketball.which.you.never.even.watched.

oh so defenses weren't hard nosed before the hand check rule?

were flagrant fouls back in the day not only given if a player was knocked out?

[blueNorange]

derrick rose, who shies away from contact when he drives to the rim, would drop 20 ppg in the 90's

Watch on YouTube

yeah, no way jose.

[kane2021]

There's two things to hope for as a knick fan in regards to rose.

1, hope some star level talent demands a trade and rose with his solid play and expiring contract entices a team to make him a center piece in such a trade.

2, hope he agrees to the 3 year 75 million extension if he's still on the roster after the trade deadline.

Because knicks not letting him walk for nothing, down grading, and rose isn't going to sign some team friendly deal. 5 years 175 million is his max and he's going to be "best available player" at his position after Paul and curry set the market to stay with their respective teams.


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[HEZI]

you. are. comparing. different. eras. in. which. rose. would. not. be. as. effective. because. defenses. would. throw. him. on. the. floor. every. single. time.

you.seem.to.know.a lot.about.an.era.of.basketball.which.you.never.even.watched.

oh so defenses weren't hard nosed before the hand check rule?

Yeah they were but teams were very careful about trying to bully the Knicks. Nobody wanted to start anything with the Knicks because the Knicks were the bullies. Rose would be just fine if he had Oakley and Mase right behind him