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College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!!

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Who do you take at 5???

Garland
27
33%
Reddish
22
27%
Clarke
3
4%
Hunter
13
16%
Hayes
0
No votes
Coby
1
1%
Rui
3
4%
Romeo
2
2%
Bol
5
6%
Other
6
7%
 
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#661 » by taj2133 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:33 am

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Chanel Bomber wrote:You always draft the best player available. I'm not sold on Morant but if the front office feels he's the best player available (or Garland), they need to take him regardless of who's on the roster and who might sign with the Knicks. You can always figure things out later. You never draft for need. That's how Portland passed on the GOAT.

Can't have bunch of point guards it not good thing to have and the knicks got 4 point guards in allen, frank, mudiay, and dsj. If the knicks get kyrie irving there is no point in getting garland or morant its wasted pick then. The knicks got 2 free agents shooting guard in 2020 tier and dotson so the knicks need to secure a shooting guard for the next 4 years.

The draft happens before free agency, so the Knicks won't know for sure if Kyrie will sign before the draft. You can't make roster decisions based on what might happen in the future. It's far too risky.

Mudiay should not be resigned and won't be if we sign Kyrie or Kemba anyways. Kadeem is a non-factor, a third-string PG at best. Frank is not a point guard. So that leaves DSJ as the point guard of the future that's currently under contract. If you've drafted Morant/Garland and Kyrie signs, you can trade DSJ to fill other holes. And that leaves you with an All-NBA point guard and an understudy in Morant/Garland, not this crazy logjam you are describing.

Frank and dsj aren't going to be free agents in 2020 as dotson and tier will be meaning you don't need to get another point guard at the moment. Getting a injury prone garland is waste of time there is no point on getting him when you already have point guards on this roster. The same goes for morant he going to be good player in this but the knicks already have lot guard you have to think these guys in the draft probably won't want to play here if they have wait there turn. Morant and garland don't want be in nyc most likely because there better fit is the bulls and suns point guarded needed teams. You also got to think about these guys agents they don't want there client to workout for the knicks seeing roster of point guards they already have not a good look, meaning the agents are going to say there client aren't going to meet with you or workout for that team.
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Post#663 » by Worst_to_First » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:48 am

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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#665 » by Besart19 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:06 pm

We will need a true playmaker if we draft Zion

Mitch
Zion
Frank

Those are three great defenders but not shooters

Dont know if Irving can become a Kidd-like of a court leader and craft of anticipating the flow of actions
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Post#666 » by Richard4444 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:36 pm

I think Knicks will draft Ja with the second or third pick. He is the BPA. But they will be open to offers from others like Suns and Bulls.

Only if Knciks draft and keep Ja, they will try to move DSJr at draft night. PGs are hard to get. And we cant take Irving for a done deal.

Garland has to kill in the workouts before draft to be considered BPA.
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Post#667 » by robillionaire » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:47 pm

Richard4444 wrote:I think Knicks will draft Ja with the second or third pick. He is the BPA. But they will be open to offers from others like Suns and Bulls.

Only if Knciks draft and keep Ja, they will try to move DSJr at draft night. PGs are hard to get. And we cant take Irving for a done deal.

Garland has to kill in the workouts before draft to be considered BPA.


If we can’t take Irving for a done deal and PGs are hard to get than than why trade DSJ? Just keep both him and Morant
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Post#668 » by Richard4444 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:06 pm

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Richard4444 wrote:I think Knicks will draft Ja with the second or third pick. He is the BPA. But they will be open to offers from others like Suns and Bulls.

Only if Knciks draft and keep Ja, they will try to move DSJr at draft night. PGs are hard to get. And we cant take Irving for a done deal.

Garland has to kill in the workouts before draft to be considered BPA.


If we can’t take Irving for a done deal and PGs are hard to get than than why trade DSJ? Just keep both him and Morant


Because we can have a logjam at the PG spot if we get Irving (high probability). We can trade DSJ later. But maybe we get a better offer at the draft night. Our necessity will become obvious and we loose leverage at the negociation.
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Post#669 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:54 pm

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Our guy James Wiseman continues to impress:



Nice showing as well from guys like Cole Anthony and Anthony Edwards.

Really wish that this was the draft class that we tanked for. Lots of gems here.

Wiseman looks like a unicorn. Dude was going coast to coast on some Giannis type sh*t :o

Next year's draft might be like last year's one, where you only need a top 4 pick to get a stud. Looks like Wiseman/Cole/Edwards are the real prizes so far. I was hoping that Wiseman reclassified so he can be in this year's draft :( He would be the clear #2 after Zion


That’s why I don’t buy the argument that you pass on Wiseman because we have Mitch on our team.

I can see those two mobile bigs playing together. Wiseman also seems like the type who can be consistent in the midrange and perhaps could extend even out to the 3pt area.

Also heard that his wingspan is now 7’7. Yowza!

New mock just came out today by DX. Guess who they have drafting Wiseman next year? :D

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1. NYK James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 C 18.0
2. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 SG 17.7
3. PHX Cole Anthony 6-3 PG/SG 18.9
4. CHI Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 PG 17.8
5. ATL Deni Avdija Maccabi Tel Aviv 6-9 SG/SF 18.2
6. WAS Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 PG 18.1
7. DAL Jaden McDaniels 6-10 SF/PF 18.5
8. MEM Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 19.1
9. NOP Precious Achiuwa 6-9 PF 19.5
10. MIN Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 C 17.9
11. LAL Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 SG 18.4
12. CHA Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 19.0
13. MIA Josh Green Arizona 6-5 SG 18.4
14. SAC Trendon Watford 6-9 SF/PF 18.4
15. DET Tre Jones Duke 6-3 PG 19.2
16. BKN Bryan Antoine Villanova 6-5 SG 18.9
17. ORL Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 17.5
18. IND Patrick Williams Florida State 6-8 SF/PF 17.6
19. LAC Kahlil Whitney Kentucky 6-7 SF/PF 18.2
20. SAS Josiah James Tennessee 6-6 SG 18.6
21. BOS Killian Hayes Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 17.7
22. PHI (via OKC) Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 C 18.1
23. UTA Ayo Dosunmu Illinois 6-4 PG/SG 19.2
24. LAC (via PHI) Jordan Poole* Michigan 6-5 PG/SG 19.8
25. HOU Malcolm Cazalon Bourg 6-6 SG 17.6
26. POR A.J. Lawson* South Carolina 6-6 SG 18.7
27. DEN Henri Drell* Bamberg 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
28. GSW Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6-3 PG 19.7
29. TOR Devon Dotson* Kansas 6-2 PG 19.7
30. PHX (via MIL) Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 SF 19.5
31. PHI (via NYK) Jalen Smith Maryland 6-10 PF 19.0
32. CHA (via CLE) LaMelo Ball 6-6 PG/SG 17.6
33. PHX Matthieu Gauzin Le Mans 6-3 PG 18.1
34. CHI Paul Eboua* Roseto 6-8 PF 19.1
35. ATL A.J. Reeves Providence 6-5 SG 19.8
36. NOP (via WAS) Marcos Lousada Silva* Franca 6-6 SF 19.8
37. PHI (via DAL) Arturs Zagars* Joventut 6-3 PG 19.0
38. CHI (via MEM) Obadiah Toppin* Dayton 6-9 PF 21.1
39. NOP Xavier Johnson Pittsburgh 6-3 PG 19.5
40. MIN Jordan Nwora* Louisville 6-8 PF 20.6
41. LAL Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St 6-5 PG 19.1
42. NYK (via CHA) Kira Lewis Alabama 6-3 PG 18.0
43. SAC (via MIA) Isaiah Joe Arkansas 6-5 SG 19.8
44. SAC Ochai Agbaji Kansas 6-5 SF 19.0
45. SAC (via DET) Derrick Alston Boise St 6-8 SF/PF 21.5
46. CHA (via BKN) Joshua Obiesie* Wuerzburg 6-6 PG/SG 18.9
47. ORL Jarron Cumberland* Cincinnati 6-5 SG 21.5
48. IND Cassius Winston Michigan St 6-1 PG 21.1
49. LAC Paul Reed DePaul 6-9 PF 19.8
50. SAS Karlton Dimanche Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 19.1
51. BOS Dalibor Ilic* Igokea 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
52. OKC Paul Scruggs Xavier 6-4 PG/SG 21.1
53. CLE (via UTA) Neemias Queta* Utah St 6-10 C 19.7
54. PHI Tyler Bey Colorado 6-7 PF 20.1
55. DAL (via HOU) Markus Howard Marquette 6-0 PG 20.1
56. BKN (via POR) Kenny Wooten* Oregon 6-9 C 21.0
57. BKN (via DEN) Grant Riller* Charleston 6-3 PG/SG 22.1
58. SAC (via GSW) Rayshaun Hammonds Georgia 6-9 PF 21.4
59. TOR Gytis Masiulis* Neptunas 6-9 PF 21.0
60. NOP (via MIL) Georgios Kalaitzakis Panathinaikos 6-6 SG 20.2
*Player is 2019 draft eligible but may withdraw

Here's what DX had to say about Wiseman
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 1 (previously No. 3)

Long considered the most physically gifted prospect in the 2019 high school class, Wiseman has finally turned the corner with his energy and effort, looking every bit like the No. 1 overall pick in 2020. For years, the often-subdued Wiseman left much to be desired in terms of consistency and overall impact, tantalizing with his incredible fluidity, ideal basketball frame and budding skills, yet struggling to find an elite skill or two to hang his hat on. But Wiseman has looked like a different player over these past few weeks, competing during McDonald's All-American practices, putting a lid on the rim at Nike Hoop Summit with six blocks in 22 minutes and winning co-MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic in Las Vegas with 22 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 24 minutes, featuring a variety of eye-popping plays on both ends.

"Really just getting my conditioning up and making sure I have a consistent motor on a daily basis," Wiseman told ESPN of his improvement. "Studying a lot of film on great bigs in this era. Really going out there and just playing hard because usually in the summertime I always used to be patient. I used to not be involved as well, not running the floor that much even though I had the ability to. So really just doing that on a consistent basis."


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Although the NBA certainly isn't clamoring for more centers, Wiseman checks most every box that teams are looking for in a franchise big man, starting with his ability to protect the rim. While not a prolific shot-blocker at the FIBA or Nike EYBL level, Wiseman brings a 7-foot-5 wingspan, 9-3 standing reach, agility and steadily improving instincts that should allow him to anchor a defense at the next level. His measurables rival Joel Embiid's at the same age.

"Timing is everything [with shot-blocking]," Wiseman said. "I've been studying a lot of David Robinson highlights. A lot of Hakeem Olajuwon highlights. So really just studying my timing and really just being there, being alert, improving myself awareness and just be active on both ends of the floor."

While he needs to improve his fundamentals and discipline defending ball screens, Wiseman is also more than comfortable stepping out and sliding with point guards on switches. He stonewalled Jaden McDaniels during the Nike Hoop Summit scrimmage and moves with impressive grace for a player his size. His aggressiveness on the defensive glass is underwhelming at times, but he's really rounding out into a defensive weapon (à la Jaren Jackson Jr.).

Offensively, Wiseman has proved he can add value as a rim runner, lob catcher and even an occasional bust-out ball handler, as he's extremely agile and slithery with unique ball skills. In the half court, though, he's still finding himself, often shying away from contact and opting for finesse over physicality. He's not the most instinctual passer at this stage and lives off a lot of step-back, long 2-pointers in search of earning the unicorn tag. But the fact that he even has the footwork to get to those shots is encouraging, along with his touch to step out and make an occasional 3, a right-shoulder jump hook or a goofy-foot finish.

Although Georgia's Anthony Edwards still poses a major threat at the No. 1 spot given his shot creation at a more coveted position, NBA scouts were wowed by Wiseman's tools and upside, and teams will spend no shortage of time in Memphis next season evaluating the 18-year-old hometown kid on his chase toward becoming the No. 1 pick in 2020. -- Schmitz


Anthony Edwards
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Rank: No. 2 (previously No. 2)

Edwards was up-and-down at times in his two all-star events -- McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- but vividly showed his talent, and he has a real opportunity to be the No. 1 pick in the draft. Edwards came into McDonald's practices noticeably out of shape but had already trimmed down by the time Jordan Brand rolled around, as he has the type of frame that can get heavy in time if he's not careful about his diet and work habits.

Edwards is a prototype for a modern NBA guard prospect with his ideal combination of size, length, body control, explosiveness, shot-making ability and defensive versatility. His ability to play at different speeds in pick-and-roll, his strength to get his own shot rising up off the dribble, and the scoring instincts he displays finishing through contact are exactly what teams are looking for.

With that said, Edwards is still a bit of an unknown commodity, as he reclassified into the 2020 draft late, played off the radar in high school and AAU, and turned down numerous opportunities with USA Basketball. His effort level comes and goes, he can be very streaky with his jump shot, and his decision-making is still at an early stage. NBA teams say Edwards has some convincing to do to show he can be trusted to be such a high draft pick, but that's exactly why the age minimum was implemented, and he's in a perfect situation at Georgia to show he's worthy of a million-dollar investment. -- Givony


Cole Anthony
Spoiler:
MVP of McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- and the leading scorer for the U.S. in a win at the Nike Hoop Summit -- Anthony displayed alpha-dog status in this class, as he dropped 64 points in 74 minutes on 43 shots between the three games. Yet NBA teams continue to express a degree of skepticism regarding how that might translate to higher levels of competition due to his streaky jumper, his reluctance to make others better and his head-down, at-times-ugly style of play.

Nevertheless, it's difficult not to be impressed by Anthony's scoring instincts and ability to manufacture offense out of nothing, as his ability to play at different speeds, make difficult shots off the bounce and seek out contact are coveted qualities in today's NBA. He's willing to put his body on the line defensively, stepping in for charges, and he has a little more ability to find teammates off the bounce in drive-and-dish situations than he gets credit for.

At the college level we'll get a better sense for how good of an athlete, shooter, defender and facilitator Anthony is, as well as his skills as a teammate and overall winner -- things on which you hear mixed feedback. Still, it's difficult to argue with his standing among his peers in this class considering how dominant he has been in every setting, and others will need to show they have more value as NBA prospects before we can forecast Anthony going any lower than this. -- Givony


This dude named Precious Achiuwa has been raising his stock massively as of recent. He's super impressive. Might go top 5.
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Rank: No. 9 (previously unranked)

Coming off a 22-point performance (on 20 attempts) in the McDonald's game, Achiuwa strung together an outstanding week of practice in Portland, culminating in a strong 15-point, 11-rebound outing at the Nike Hoop Summit game. After an up-and-down high school senior season with Montverde, Achiuwa seemed to benefit from the added spacing of these settings with more opportunities to showcase his on-ball skill set. Achiuwa displayed impressive upside with his physical profile (6-9, 7-2 wingspan), explosive athleticism, budding shot-making ability and flashes of defensive prowess.

Achiuwa is a hungry scorer who is aggressive attacking the rim in the open floor, pulling up off the dribble, shooting with his feet set and taking difficult shots from inside the arc. His ability to change speeds powerfully, finish above the rim and throw in jumpers is intriguing for a player his size, even if his tunnel-vision decision-making and shot selection still often leave a lot to be desired. Achiuwa also is a playmaker defensively who wows you at times with his versatility switching onto guards and protecting the rim. His feel for the game and overall consistency are still a major work in progress, though, and going to the right school will be paramount for him. Ultimately, his combination of tools and talent are just too tantalizing to not project as a lottery talent now. -- Givony
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Post#670 » by Worst_to_First » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:16 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Wiseman looks like a unicorn. Dude was going coast to coast on some Giannis type sh*t :o

Next year's draft might be like last year's one, where you only need a top 4 pick to get a stud. Looks like Wiseman/Cole/Edwards are the real prizes so far. I was hoping that Wiseman reclassified so he can be in this year's draft :( He would be the clear #2 after Zion


That’s why I don’t buy the argument that you pass on Wiseman because we have Mitch on our team.

I can see those two mobile bigs playing together. Wiseman also seems like the type who can be consistent in the midrange and perhaps could extend even out to the 3pt area.

Also heard that his wingspan is now 7’7. Yowza!

New mock just came out today by DX. Guess who they have drafting Wiseman next year? :D

Spoiler:
1. NYK James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 C 18.0
2. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 SG 17.7
3. PHX Cole Anthony 6-3 PG/SG 18.9
4. CHI Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 PG 17.8
5. ATL Deni Avdija Maccabi Tel Aviv 6-9 SG/SF 18.2
6. WAS Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 PG 18.1
7. DAL Jaden McDaniels 6-10 SF/PF 18.5
8. MEM Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 19.1
9. NOP Precious Achiuwa 6-9 PF 19.5
10. MIN Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 C 17.9
11. LAL Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 SG 18.4
12. CHA Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 19.0
13. MIA Josh Green Arizona 6-5 SG 18.4
14. SAC Trendon Watford 6-9 SF/PF 18.4
15. DET Tre Jones Duke 6-3 PG 19.2
16. BKN Bryan Antoine Villanova 6-5 SG 18.9
17. ORL Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 17.5
18. IND Patrick Williams Florida State 6-8 SF/PF 17.6
19. LAC Kahlil Whitney Kentucky 6-7 SF/PF 18.2
20. SAS Josiah James Tennessee 6-6 SG 18.6
21. BOS Killian Hayes Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 17.7
22. PHI (via OKC) Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 C 18.1
23. UTA Ayo Dosunmu Illinois 6-4 PG/SG 19.2
24. LAC (via PHI) Jordan Poole* Michigan 6-5 PG/SG 19.8
25. HOU Malcolm Cazalon Bourg 6-6 SG 17.6
26. POR A.J. Lawson* South Carolina 6-6 SG 18.7
27. DEN Henri Drell* Bamberg 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
28. GSW Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6-3 PG 19.7
29. TOR Devon Dotson* Kansas 6-2 PG 19.7
30. PHX (via MIL) Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 SF 19.5
31. PHI (via NYK) Jalen Smith Maryland 6-10 PF 19.0
32. CHA (via CLE) LaMelo Ball 6-6 PG/SG 17.6
33. PHX Matthieu Gauzin Le Mans 6-3 PG 18.1
34. CHI Paul Eboua* Roseto 6-8 PF 19.1
35. ATL A.J. Reeves Providence 6-5 SG 19.8
36. NOP (via WAS) Marcos Lousada Silva* Franca 6-6 SF 19.8
37. PHI (via DAL) Arturs Zagars* Joventut 6-3 PG 19.0
38. CHI (via MEM) Obadiah Toppin* Dayton 6-9 PF 21.1
39. NOP Xavier Johnson Pittsburgh 6-3 PG 19.5
40. MIN Jordan Nwora* Louisville 6-8 PF 20.6
41. LAL Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St 6-5 PG 19.1
42. NYK (via CHA) Kira Lewis Alabama 6-3 PG 18.0
43. SAC (via MIA) Isaiah Joe Arkansas 6-5 SG 19.8
44. SAC Ochai Agbaji Kansas 6-5 SF 19.0
45. SAC (via DET) Derrick Alston Boise St 6-8 SF/PF 21.5
46. CHA (via BKN) Joshua Obiesie* Wuerzburg 6-6 PG/SG 18.9
47. ORL Jarron Cumberland* Cincinnati 6-5 SG 21.5
48. IND Cassius Winston Michigan St 6-1 PG 21.1
49. LAC Paul Reed DePaul 6-9 PF 19.8
50. SAS Karlton Dimanche Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 19.1
51. BOS Dalibor Ilic* Igokea 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
52. OKC Paul Scruggs Xavier 6-4 PG/SG 21.1
53. CLE (via UTA) Neemias Queta* Utah St 6-10 C 19.7
54. PHI Tyler Bey Colorado 6-7 PF 20.1
55. DAL (via HOU) Markus Howard Marquette 6-0 PG 20.1
56. BKN (via POR) Kenny Wooten* Oregon 6-9 C 21.0
57. BKN (via DEN) Grant Riller* Charleston 6-3 PG/SG 22.1
58. SAC (via GSW) Rayshaun Hammonds Georgia 6-9 PF 21.4
59. TOR Gytis Masiulis* Neptunas 6-9 PF 21.0
60. NOP (via MIL) Georgios Kalaitzakis Panathinaikos 6-6 SG 20.2
*Player is 2019 draft eligible but may withdraw

Here's what DX had to say about Wiseman
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 1 (previously No. 3)

Long considered the most physically gifted prospect in the 2019 high school class, Wiseman has finally turned the corner with his energy and effort, looking every bit like the No. 1 overall pick in 2020. For years, the often-subdued Wiseman left much to be desired in terms of consistency and overall impact, tantalizing with his incredible fluidity, ideal basketball frame and budding skills, yet struggling to find an elite skill or two to hang his hat on. But Wiseman has looked like a different player over these past few weeks, competing during McDonald's All-American practices, putting a lid on the rim at Nike Hoop Summit with six blocks in 22 minutes and winning co-MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic in Las Vegas with 22 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 24 minutes, featuring a variety of eye-popping plays on both ends.

"Really just getting my conditioning up and making sure I have a consistent motor on a daily basis," Wiseman told ESPN of his improvement. "Studying a lot of film on great bigs in this era. Really going out there and just playing hard because usually in the summertime I always used to be patient. I used to not be involved as well, not running the floor that much even though I had the ability to. So really just doing that on a consistent basis."


NBA draft stock watch: Intel from Portsmouth Invitational
Although the NBA certainly isn't clamoring for more centers, Wiseman checks most every box that teams are looking for in a franchise big man, starting with his ability to protect the rim. While not a prolific shot-blocker at the FIBA or Nike EYBL level, Wiseman brings a 7-foot-5 wingspan, 9-3 standing reach, agility and steadily improving instincts that should allow him to anchor a defense at the next level. His measurables rival Joel Embiid's at the same age.

"Timing is everything [with shot-blocking]," Wiseman said. "I've been studying a lot of David Robinson highlights. A lot of Hakeem Olajuwon highlights. So really just studying my timing and really just being there, being alert, improving myself awareness and just be active on both ends of the floor."

While he needs to improve his fundamentals and discipline defending ball screens, Wiseman is also more than comfortable stepping out and sliding with point guards on switches. He stonewalled Jaden McDaniels during the Nike Hoop Summit scrimmage and moves with impressive grace for a player his size. His aggressiveness on the defensive glass is underwhelming at times, but he's really rounding out into a defensive weapon (à la Jaren Jackson Jr.).

Offensively, Wiseman has proved he can add value as a rim runner, lob catcher and even an occasional bust-out ball handler, as he's extremely agile and slithery with unique ball skills. In the half court, though, he's still finding himself, often shying away from contact and opting for finesse over physicality. He's not the most instinctual passer at this stage and lives off a lot of step-back, long 2-pointers in search of earning the unicorn tag. But the fact that he even has the footwork to get to those shots is encouraging, along with his touch to step out and make an occasional 3, a right-shoulder jump hook or a goofy-foot finish.

Although Georgia's Anthony Edwards still poses a major threat at the No. 1 spot given his shot creation at a more coveted position, NBA scouts were wowed by Wiseman's tools and upside, and teams will spend no shortage of time in Memphis next season evaluating the 18-year-old hometown kid on his chase toward becoming the No. 1 pick in 2020. -- Schmitz


Anthony Edwards
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 2 (previously No. 2)

Edwards was up-and-down at times in his two all-star events -- McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- but vividly showed his talent, and he has a real opportunity to be the No. 1 pick in the draft. Edwards came into McDonald's practices noticeably out of shape but had already trimmed down by the time Jordan Brand rolled around, as he has the type of frame that can get heavy in time if he's not careful about his diet and work habits.

Edwards is a prototype for a modern NBA guard prospect with his ideal combination of size, length, body control, explosiveness, shot-making ability and defensive versatility. His ability to play at different speeds in pick-and-roll, his strength to get his own shot rising up off the dribble, and the scoring instincts he displays finishing through contact are exactly what teams are looking for.

With that said, Edwards is still a bit of an unknown commodity, as he reclassified into the 2020 draft late, played off the radar in high school and AAU, and turned down numerous opportunities with USA Basketball. His effort level comes and goes, he can be very streaky with his jump shot, and his decision-making is still at an early stage. NBA teams say Edwards has some convincing to do to show he can be trusted to be such a high draft pick, but that's exactly why the age minimum was implemented, and he's in a perfect situation at Georgia to show he's worthy of a million-dollar investment. -- Givony


Cole Anthony
Spoiler:
MVP of McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- and the leading scorer for the U.S. in a win at the Nike Hoop Summit -- Anthony displayed alpha-dog status in this class, as he dropped 64 points in 74 minutes on 43 shots between the three games. Yet NBA teams continue to express a degree of skepticism regarding how that might translate to higher levels of competition due to his streaky jumper, his reluctance to make others better and his head-down, at-times-ugly style of play.

Nevertheless, it's difficult not to be impressed by Anthony's scoring instincts and ability to manufacture offense out of nothing, as his ability to play at different speeds, make difficult shots off the bounce and seek out contact are coveted qualities in today's NBA. He's willing to put his body on the line defensively, stepping in for charges, and he has a little more ability to find teammates off the bounce in drive-and-dish situations than he gets credit for.

At the college level we'll get a better sense for how good of an athlete, shooter, defender and facilitator Anthony is, as well as his skills as a teammate and overall winner -- things on which you hear mixed feedback. Still, it's difficult to argue with his standing among his peers in this class considering how dominant he has been in every setting, and others will need to show they have more value as NBA prospects before we can forecast Anthony going any lower than this. -- Givony


This dude named Precious Achiuwa has been raising his stock massively as of recent. He's super impressive. Might go top 5.
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 9 (previously unranked)

Coming off a 22-point performance (on 20 attempts) in the McDonald's game, Achiuwa strung together an outstanding week of practice in Portland, culminating in a strong 15-point, 11-rebound outing at the Nike Hoop Summit game. After an up-and-down high school senior season with Montverde, Achiuwa seemed to benefit from the added spacing of these settings with more opportunities to showcase his on-ball skill set. Achiuwa displayed impressive upside with his physical profile (6-9, 7-2 wingspan), explosive athleticism, budding shot-making ability and flashes of defensive prowess.

Achiuwa is a hungry scorer who is aggressive attacking the rim in the open floor, pulling up off the dribble, shooting with his feet set and taking difficult shots from inside the arc. His ability to change speeds powerfully, finish above the rim and throw in jumpers is intriguing for a player his size, even if his tunnel-vision decision-making and shot selection still often leave a lot to be desired. Achiuwa also is a playmaker defensively who wows you at times with his versatility switching onto guards and protecting the rim. His feel for the game and overall consistency are still a major work in progress, though, and going to the right school will be paramount for him. Ultimately, his combination of tools and talent are just too tantalizing to not project as a lottery talent now. -- Givony


That mock is such a wonderful sight to behold. :pray:

Wiseman is a student of the game and really has the drive and motivation to be great.
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#671 » by bleedblue3303 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:19 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
That’s why I don’t buy the argument that you pass on Wiseman because we have Mitch on our team.

I can see those two mobile bigs playing together. Wiseman also seems like the type who can be consistent in the midrange and perhaps could extend even out to the 3pt area.

Also heard that his wingspan is now 7’7. Yowza!

New mock just came out today by DX. Guess who they have drafting Wiseman next year? :D

Spoiler:
1. NYK James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 C 18.0
2. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 SG 17.7
3. PHX Cole Anthony 6-3 PG/SG 18.9
4. CHI Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 PG 17.8
5. ATL Deni Avdija Maccabi Tel Aviv 6-9 SG/SF 18.2
6. WAS Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 PG 18.1
7. DAL Jaden McDaniels 6-10 SF/PF 18.5
8. MEM Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 19.1
9. NOP Precious Achiuwa 6-9 PF 19.5
10. MIN Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 C 17.9
11. LAL Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 SG 18.4
12. CHA Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 19.0
13. MIA Josh Green Arizona 6-5 SG 18.4
14. SAC Trendon Watford 6-9 SF/PF 18.4
15. DET Tre Jones Duke 6-3 PG 19.2
16. BKN Bryan Antoine Villanova 6-5 SG 18.9
17. ORL Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 17.5
18. IND Patrick Williams Florida State 6-8 SF/PF 17.6
19. LAC Kahlil Whitney Kentucky 6-7 SF/PF 18.2
20. SAS Josiah James Tennessee 6-6 SG 18.6
21. BOS Killian Hayes Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 17.7
22. PHI (via OKC) Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 C 18.1
23. UTA Ayo Dosunmu Illinois 6-4 PG/SG 19.2
24. LAC (via PHI) Jordan Poole* Michigan 6-5 PG/SG 19.8
25. HOU Malcolm Cazalon Bourg 6-6 SG 17.6
26. POR A.J. Lawson* South Carolina 6-6 SG 18.7
27. DEN Henri Drell* Bamberg 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
28. GSW Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6-3 PG 19.7
29. TOR Devon Dotson* Kansas 6-2 PG 19.7
30. PHX (via MIL) Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 SF 19.5
31. PHI (via NYK) Jalen Smith Maryland 6-10 PF 19.0
32. CHA (via CLE) LaMelo Ball 6-6 PG/SG 17.6
33. PHX Matthieu Gauzin Le Mans 6-3 PG 18.1
34. CHI Paul Eboua* Roseto 6-8 PF 19.1
35. ATL A.J. Reeves Providence 6-5 SG 19.8
36. NOP (via WAS) Marcos Lousada Silva* Franca 6-6 SF 19.8
37. PHI (via DAL) Arturs Zagars* Joventut 6-3 PG 19.0
38. CHI (via MEM) Obadiah Toppin* Dayton 6-9 PF 21.1
39. NOP Xavier Johnson Pittsburgh 6-3 PG 19.5
40. MIN Jordan Nwora* Louisville 6-8 PF 20.6
41. LAL Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St 6-5 PG 19.1
42. NYK (via CHA) Kira Lewis Alabama 6-3 PG 18.0
43. SAC (via MIA) Isaiah Joe Arkansas 6-5 SG 19.8
44. SAC Ochai Agbaji Kansas 6-5 SF 19.0
45. SAC (via DET) Derrick Alston Boise St 6-8 SF/PF 21.5
46. CHA (via BKN) Joshua Obiesie* Wuerzburg 6-6 PG/SG 18.9
47. ORL Jarron Cumberland* Cincinnati 6-5 SG 21.5
48. IND Cassius Winston Michigan St 6-1 PG 21.1
49. LAC Paul Reed DePaul 6-9 PF 19.8
50. SAS Karlton Dimanche Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 19.1
51. BOS Dalibor Ilic* Igokea 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
52. OKC Paul Scruggs Xavier 6-4 PG/SG 21.1
53. CLE (via UTA) Neemias Queta* Utah St 6-10 C 19.7
54. PHI Tyler Bey Colorado 6-7 PF 20.1
55. DAL (via HOU) Markus Howard Marquette 6-0 PG 20.1
56. BKN (via POR) Kenny Wooten* Oregon 6-9 C 21.0
57. BKN (via DEN) Grant Riller* Charleston 6-3 PG/SG 22.1
58. SAC (via GSW) Rayshaun Hammonds Georgia 6-9 PF 21.4
59. TOR Gytis Masiulis* Neptunas 6-9 PF 21.0
60. NOP (via MIL) Georgios Kalaitzakis Panathinaikos 6-6 SG 20.2
*Player is 2019 draft eligible but may withdraw

Here's what DX had to say about Wiseman
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 1 (previously No. 3)

Long considered the most physically gifted prospect in the 2019 high school class, Wiseman has finally turned the corner with his energy and effort, looking every bit like the No. 1 overall pick in 2020. For years, the often-subdued Wiseman left much to be desired in terms of consistency and overall impact, tantalizing with his incredible fluidity, ideal basketball frame and budding skills, yet struggling to find an elite skill or two to hang his hat on. But Wiseman has looked like a different player over these past few weeks, competing during McDonald's All-American practices, putting a lid on the rim at Nike Hoop Summit with six blocks in 22 minutes and winning co-MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic in Las Vegas with 22 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 24 minutes, featuring a variety of eye-popping plays on both ends.

"Really just getting my conditioning up and making sure I have a consistent motor on a daily basis," Wiseman told ESPN of his improvement. "Studying a lot of film on great bigs in this era. Really going out there and just playing hard because usually in the summertime I always used to be patient. I used to not be involved as well, not running the floor that much even though I had the ability to. So really just doing that on a consistent basis."


NBA draft stock watch: Intel from Portsmouth Invitational
Although the NBA certainly isn't clamoring for more centers, Wiseman checks most every box that teams are looking for in a franchise big man, starting with his ability to protect the rim. While not a prolific shot-blocker at the FIBA or Nike EYBL level, Wiseman brings a 7-foot-5 wingspan, 9-3 standing reach, agility and steadily improving instincts that should allow him to anchor a defense at the next level. His measurables rival Joel Embiid's at the same age.

"Timing is everything [with shot-blocking]," Wiseman said. "I've been studying a lot of David Robinson highlights. A lot of Hakeem Olajuwon highlights. So really just studying my timing and really just being there, being alert, improving myself awareness and just be active on both ends of the floor."

While he needs to improve his fundamentals and discipline defending ball screens, Wiseman is also more than comfortable stepping out and sliding with point guards on switches. He stonewalled Jaden McDaniels during the Nike Hoop Summit scrimmage and moves with impressive grace for a player his size. His aggressiveness on the defensive glass is underwhelming at times, but he's really rounding out into a defensive weapon (à la Jaren Jackson Jr.).

Offensively, Wiseman has proved he can add value as a rim runner, lob catcher and even an occasional bust-out ball handler, as he's extremely agile and slithery with unique ball skills. In the half court, though, he's still finding himself, often shying away from contact and opting for finesse over physicality. He's not the most instinctual passer at this stage and lives off a lot of step-back, long 2-pointers in search of earning the unicorn tag. But the fact that he even has the footwork to get to those shots is encouraging, along with his touch to step out and make an occasional 3, a right-shoulder jump hook or a goofy-foot finish.

Although Georgia's Anthony Edwards still poses a major threat at the No. 1 spot given his shot creation at a more coveted position, NBA scouts were wowed by Wiseman's tools and upside, and teams will spend no shortage of time in Memphis next season evaluating the 18-year-old hometown kid on his chase toward becoming the No. 1 pick in 2020. -- Schmitz


Anthony Edwards
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 2 (previously No. 2)

Edwards was up-and-down at times in his two all-star events -- McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- but vividly showed his talent, and he has a real opportunity to be the No. 1 pick in the draft. Edwards came into McDonald's practices noticeably out of shape but had already trimmed down by the time Jordan Brand rolled around, as he has the type of frame that can get heavy in time if he's not careful about his diet and work habits.

Edwards is a prototype for a modern NBA guard prospect with his ideal combination of size, length, body control, explosiveness, shot-making ability and defensive versatility. His ability to play at different speeds in pick-and-roll, his strength to get his own shot rising up off the dribble, and the scoring instincts he displays finishing through contact are exactly what teams are looking for.

With that said, Edwards is still a bit of an unknown commodity, as he reclassified into the 2020 draft late, played off the radar in high school and AAU, and turned down numerous opportunities with USA Basketball. His effort level comes and goes, he can be very streaky with his jump shot, and his decision-making is still at an early stage. NBA teams say Edwards has some convincing to do to show he can be trusted to be such a high draft pick, but that's exactly why the age minimum was implemented, and he's in a perfect situation at Georgia to show he's worthy of a million-dollar investment. -- Givony


Cole Anthony
Spoiler:
MVP of McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- and the leading scorer for the U.S. in a win at the Nike Hoop Summit -- Anthony displayed alpha-dog status in this class, as he dropped 64 points in 74 minutes on 43 shots between the three games. Yet NBA teams continue to express a degree of skepticism regarding how that might translate to higher levels of competition due to his streaky jumper, his reluctance to make others better and his head-down, at-times-ugly style of play.

Nevertheless, it's difficult not to be impressed by Anthony's scoring instincts and ability to manufacture offense out of nothing, as his ability to play at different speeds, make difficult shots off the bounce and seek out contact are coveted qualities in today's NBA. He's willing to put his body on the line defensively, stepping in for charges, and he has a little more ability to find teammates off the bounce in drive-and-dish situations than he gets credit for.

At the college level we'll get a better sense for how good of an athlete, shooter, defender and facilitator Anthony is, as well as his skills as a teammate and overall winner -- things on which you hear mixed feedback. Still, it's difficult to argue with his standing among his peers in this class considering how dominant he has been in every setting, and others will need to show they have more value as NBA prospects before we can forecast Anthony going any lower than this. -- Givony


This dude named Precious Achiuwa has been raising his stock massively as of recent. He's super impressive. Might go top 5.
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 9 (previously unranked)

Coming off a 22-point performance (on 20 attempts) in the McDonald's game, Achiuwa strung together an outstanding week of practice in Portland, culminating in a strong 15-point, 11-rebound outing at the Nike Hoop Summit game. After an up-and-down high school senior season with Montverde, Achiuwa seemed to benefit from the added spacing of these settings with more opportunities to showcase his on-ball skill set. Achiuwa displayed impressive upside with his physical profile (6-9, 7-2 wingspan), explosive athleticism, budding shot-making ability and flashes of defensive prowess.

Achiuwa is a hungry scorer who is aggressive attacking the rim in the open floor, pulling up off the dribble, shooting with his feet set and taking difficult shots from inside the arc. His ability to change speeds powerfully, finish above the rim and throw in jumpers is intriguing for a player his size, even if his tunnel-vision decision-making and shot selection still often leave a lot to be desired. Achiuwa also is a playmaker defensively who wows you at times with his versatility switching onto guards and protecting the rim. His feel for the game and overall consistency are still a major work in progress, though, and going to the right school will be paramount for him. Ultimately, his combination of tools and talent are just too tantalizing to not project as a lottery talent now. -- Givony


That mock is such a wonderful sight to behold. :pray:

Wiseman is a student of the game and really has the drive and motivation to be great.





Is there any way you could do the same thing for this years mock for DX I would love to see their mock. but am too cheap to pay.

would be appreciated
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#672 » by TBri1974 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:17 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Wiseman looks like a unicorn. Dude was going coast to coast on some Giannis type sh*t :o

Next year's draft might be like last year's one, where you only need a top 4 pick to get a stud. Looks like Wiseman/Cole/Edwards are the real prizes so far. I was hoping that Wiseman reclassified so he can be in this year's draft :( He would be the clear #2 after Zion


That’s why I don’t buy the argument that you pass on Wiseman because we have Mitch on our team.

I can see those two mobile bigs playing together. Wiseman also seems like the type who can be consistent in the midrange and perhaps could extend even out to the 3pt area.

Also heard that his wingspan is now 7’7. Yowza!

New mock just came out today by DX. Guess who they have drafting Wiseman next year? :D

Spoiler:
1. NYK James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 C 18.0
2. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 SG 17.7
3. PHX Cole Anthony 6-3 PG/SG 18.9
4. CHI Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 PG 17.8
5. ATL Deni Avdija Maccabi Tel Aviv 6-9 SG/SF 18.2
6. WAS Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 PG 18.1
7. DAL Jaden McDaniels 6-10 SF/PF 18.5
8. MEM Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 19.1
9. NOP Precious Achiuwa 6-9 PF 19.5
10. MIN Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 C 17.9
11. LAL Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 SG 18.4
12. CHA Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 19.0
13. MIA Josh Green Arizona 6-5 SG 18.4
14. SAC Trendon Watford 6-9 SF/PF 18.4
15. DET Tre Jones Duke 6-3 PG 19.2
16. BKN Bryan Antoine Villanova 6-5 SG 18.9
17. ORL Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 17.5
18. IND Patrick Williams Florida State 6-8 SF/PF 17.6
19. LAC Kahlil Whitney Kentucky 6-7 SF/PF 18.2
20. SAS Josiah James Tennessee 6-6 SG 18.6
21. BOS Killian Hayes Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 17.7
22. PHI (via OKC) Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 C 18.1
23. UTA Ayo Dosunmu Illinois 6-4 PG/SG 19.2
24. LAC (via PHI) Jordan Poole* Michigan 6-5 PG/SG 19.8
25. HOU Malcolm Cazalon Bourg 6-6 SG 17.6
26. POR A.J. Lawson* South Carolina 6-6 SG 18.7
27. DEN Henri Drell* Bamberg 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
28. GSW Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6-3 PG 19.7
29. TOR Devon Dotson* Kansas 6-2 PG 19.7
30. PHX (via MIL) Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 SF 19.5
31. PHI (via NYK) Jalen Smith Maryland 6-10 PF 19.0
32. CHA (via CLE) LaMelo Ball 6-6 PG/SG 17.6
33. PHX Matthieu Gauzin Le Mans 6-3 PG 18.1
34. CHI Paul Eboua* Roseto 6-8 PF 19.1
35. ATL A.J. Reeves Providence 6-5 SG 19.8
36. NOP (via WAS) Marcos Lousada Silva* Franca 6-6 SF 19.8
37. PHI (via DAL) Arturs Zagars* Joventut 6-3 PG 19.0
38. CHI (via MEM) Obadiah Toppin* Dayton 6-9 PF 21.1
39. NOP Xavier Johnson Pittsburgh 6-3 PG 19.5
40. MIN Jordan Nwora* Louisville 6-8 PF 20.6
41. LAL Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St 6-5 PG 19.1
42. NYK (via CHA) Kira Lewis Alabama 6-3 PG 18.0
43. SAC (via MIA) Isaiah Joe Arkansas 6-5 SG 19.8
44. SAC Ochai Agbaji Kansas 6-5 SF 19.0
45. SAC (via DET) Derrick Alston Boise St 6-8 SF/PF 21.5
46. CHA (via BKN) Joshua Obiesie* Wuerzburg 6-6 PG/SG 18.9
47. ORL Jarron Cumberland* Cincinnati 6-5 SG 21.5
48. IND Cassius Winston Michigan St 6-1 PG 21.1
49. LAC Paul Reed DePaul 6-9 PF 19.8
50. SAS Karlton Dimanche Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 19.1
51. BOS Dalibor Ilic* Igokea 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
52. OKC Paul Scruggs Xavier 6-4 PG/SG 21.1
53. CLE (via UTA) Neemias Queta* Utah St 6-10 C 19.7
54. PHI Tyler Bey Colorado 6-7 PF 20.1
55. DAL (via HOU) Markus Howard Marquette 6-0 PG 20.1
56. BKN (via POR) Kenny Wooten* Oregon 6-9 C 21.0
57. BKN (via DEN) Grant Riller* Charleston 6-3 PG/SG 22.1
58. SAC (via GSW) Rayshaun Hammonds Georgia 6-9 PF 21.4
59. TOR Gytis Masiulis* Neptunas 6-9 PF 21.0
60. NOP (via MIL) Georgios Kalaitzakis Panathinaikos 6-6 SG 20.2
*Player is 2019 draft eligible but may withdraw

Here's what DX had to say about Wiseman
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 1 (previously No. 3)

Long considered the most physically gifted prospect in the 2019 high school class, Wiseman has finally turned the corner with his energy and effort, looking every bit like the No. 1 overall pick in 2020. For years, the often-subdued Wiseman left much to be desired in terms of consistency and overall impact, tantalizing with his incredible fluidity, ideal basketball frame and budding skills, yet struggling to find an elite skill or two to hang his hat on. But Wiseman has looked like a different player over these past few weeks, competing during McDonald's All-American practices, putting a lid on the rim at Nike Hoop Summit with six blocks in 22 minutes and winning co-MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic in Las Vegas with 22 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 24 minutes, featuring a variety of eye-popping plays on both ends.

"Really just getting my conditioning up and making sure I have a consistent motor on a daily basis," Wiseman told ESPN of his improvement. "Studying a lot of film on great bigs in this era. Really going out there and just playing hard because usually in the summertime I always used to be patient. I used to not be involved as well, not running the floor that much even though I had the ability to. So really just doing that on a consistent basis."


NBA draft stock watch: Intel from Portsmouth Invitational
Although the NBA certainly isn't clamoring for more centers, Wiseman checks most every box that teams are looking for in a franchise big man, starting with his ability to protect the rim. While not a prolific shot-blocker at the FIBA or Nike EYBL level, Wiseman brings a 7-foot-5 wingspan, 9-3 standing reach, agility and steadily improving instincts that should allow him to anchor a defense at the next level. His measurables rival Joel Embiid's at the same age.

"Timing is everything [with shot-blocking]," Wiseman said. "I've been studying a lot of David Robinson highlights. A lot of Hakeem Olajuwon highlights. So really just studying my timing and really just being there, being alert, improving myself awareness and just be active on both ends of the floor."

While he needs to improve his fundamentals and discipline defending ball screens, Wiseman is also more than comfortable stepping out and sliding with point guards on switches. He stonewalled Jaden McDaniels during the Nike Hoop Summit scrimmage and moves with impressive grace for a player his size. His aggressiveness on the defensive glass is underwhelming at times, but he's really rounding out into a defensive weapon (à la Jaren Jackson Jr.).

Offensively, Wiseman has proved he can add value as a rim runner, lob catcher and even an occasional bust-out ball handler, as he's extremely agile and slithery with unique ball skills. In the half court, though, he's still finding himself, often shying away from contact and opting for finesse over physicality. He's not the most instinctual passer at this stage and lives off a lot of step-back, long 2-pointers in search of earning the unicorn tag. But the fact that he even has the footwork to get to those shots is encouraging, along with his touch to step out and make an occasional 3, a right-shoulder jump hook or a goofy-foot finish.

Although Georgia's Anthony Edwards still poses a major threat at the No. 1 spot given his shot creation at a more coveted position, NBA scouts were wowed by Wiseman's tools and upside, and teams will spend no shortage of time in Memphis next season evaluating the 18-year-old hometown kid on his chase toward becoming the No. 1 pick in 2020. -- Schmitz


Anthony Edwards
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 2 (previously No. 2)

Edwards was up-and-down at times in his two all-star events -- McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- but vividly showed his talent, and he has a real opportunity to be the No. 1 pick in the draft. Edwards came into McDonald's practices noticeably out of shape but had already trimmed down by the time Jordan Brand rolled around, as he has the type of frame that can get heavy in time if he's not careful about his diet and work habits.

Edwards is a prototype for a modern NBA guard prospect with his ideal combination of size, length, body control, explosiveness, shot-making ability and defensive versatility. His ability to play at different speeds in pick-and-roll, his strength to get his own shot rising up off the dribble, and the scoring instincts he displays finishing through contact are exactly what teams are looking for.

With that said, Edwards is still a bit of an unknown commodity, as he reclassified into the 2020 draft late, played off the radar in high school and AAU, and turned down numerous opportunities with USA Basketball. His effort level comes and goes, he can be very streaky with his jump shot, and his decision-making is still at an early stage. NBA teams say Edwards has some convincing to do to show he can be trusted to be such a high draft pick, but that's exactly why the age minimum was implemented, and he's in a perfect situation at Georgia to show he's worthy of a million-dollar investment. -- Givony


Cole Anthony
Spoiler:
MVP of McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- and the leading scorer for the U.S. in a win at the Nike Hoop Summit -- Anthony displayed alpha-dog status in this class, as he dropped 64 points in 74 minutes on 43 shots between the three games. Yet NBA teams continue to express a degree of skepticism regarding how that might translate to higher levels of competition due to his streaky jumper, his reluctance to make others better and his head-down, at-times-ugly style of play.

Nevertheless, it's difficult not to be impressed by Anthony's scoring instincts and ability to manufacture offense out of nothing, as his ability to play at different speeds, make difficult shots off the bounce and seek out contact are coveted qualities in today's NBA. He's willing to put his body on the line defensively, stepping in for charges, and he has a little more ability to find teammates off the bounce in drive-and-dish situations than he gets credit for.

At the college level we'll get a better sense for how good of an athlete, shooter, defender and facilitator Anthony is, as well as his skills as a teammate and overall winner -- things on which you hear mixed feedback. Still, it's difficult to argue with his standing among his peers in this class considering how dominant he has been in every setting, and others will need to show they have more value as NBA prospects before we can forecast Anthony going any lower than this. -- Givony


This dude named Precious Achiuwa has been raising his stock massively as of recent. He's super impressive. Might go top 5.
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 9 (previously unranked)

Coming off a 22-point performance (on 20 attempts) in the McDonald's game, Achiuwa strung together an outstanding week of practice in Portland, culminating in a strong 15-point, 11-rebound outing at the Nike Hoop Summit game. After an up-and-down high school senior season with Montverde, Achiuwa seemed to benefit from the added spacing of these settings with more opportunities to showcase his on-ball skill set. Achiuwa displayed impressive upside with his physical profile (6-9, 7-2 wingspan), explosive athleticism, budding shot-making ability and flashes of defensive prowess.

Achiuwa is a hungry scorer who is aggressive attacking the rim in the open floor, pulling up off the dribble, shooting with his feet set and taking difficult shots from inside the arc. His ability to change speeds powerfully, finish above the rim and throw in jumpers is intriguing for a player his size, even if his tunnel-vision decision-making and shot selection still often leave a lot to be desired. Achiuwa also is a playmaker defensively who wows you at times with his versatility switching onto guards and protecting the rim. His feel for the game and overall consistency are still a major work in progress, though, and going to the right school will be paramount for him. Ultimately, his combination of tools and talent are just too tantalizing to not project as a lottery talent now. -- Givony


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Post#675 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:57 am

bleedblue3303 wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:New mock just came out today by DX. Guess who they have drafting Wiseman next year? :D

Spoiler:

Here's what DX had to say about Wiseman
Spoiler:


Anthony Edwards
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Cole Anthony
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This dude named Precious Achiuwa has been raising his stock massively as of recent. He's super impressive. Might go top 5.
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That mock is such a wonderful sight to behold. :pray:

Wiseman is a student of the game and really has the drive and motivation to be great.





Is there any way you could do the same thing for this years mock for DX I would love to see their mock. but am too cheap to pay.

would be appreciated

Here you go. I think someone asked me before and I forgot to post it. Enjoy
Spoiler:
1. New York Knicks

Zion Williamson
Duke
Age: 18.7
F

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 272

Williamson emerged as both the best player in college basketball and the best long-term prospect in this draft class the moment he stepped on the court for Duke, making him the easy choice as the No. 1 pick. We've never seen a prospect quite like him in terms of his combination of productivity, athleticism, competitiveness, skill and feel for the game -- not to mention the sheer star power he'll bring to whatever NBA team is lucky enough to draft him.

He would give the Knicks a huge boost in their rebuilding effort.

2. Cleveland Cavaliers

Ja Morant
Murray State
Age: 19.6
G

Height: 6-foot-3 | Weight: 170

Morant's emergence from no-name high school recruit to NCAA tournament darling was one of the better stories of the college basketball season. He's one of the best athletes in this draft. He's a highly creative and ambidextrous passer who should fit into the NBA game seamlessly with his ability to navigate pick-and-rolls and make plays in the open floor. He's a better shooter than he gets credit for, though his casual approach to defense and decision-making sometimes works against him.

Should the draft order hold true after the lottery, the Cavs will have a very interesting decision to make between Morant and RJ Barrett. Barrett's fit with Collin Sexton isn't ideal -- both are ball-dominant guards -- so it wouldn't be shocking if Cleveland went with a best player available approach, taking Morant here if they feel passionately about him being the better long-term prospect.

The Cavs are at too early of a stage of their rebuilding process to draft with team need in mind, but there's certainly an argument to be made that Barrett is both a better positional fit and a better prospect, which will make for a fascinating internal debate.

3. Phoenix Suns

RJ Barrett
Duke
Age: 18.8
G/F

Height: 6-foot-7 | Weight: 208

Barrett broke Duke's and the ACC's freshman scoring records while being named a consensus first-team All-American, even if he was lost in the shadow of Williamson at times. Barrett emerged as Duke's full-time playmaker as the season moved on, showing impressive passing ability operating out of pick-and-rolls, something that will serve him well in the NBA once he's surrounded by better shooters. He was inconsistent from the perimeter, he demonstrated questionable decision-making and shot selection at times, and he wasn't the defender his physical tools suggest he should have been at the college level.

The Suns have a gaping hole at point guard, but Barrett essentially played that position anyway for most of the season at Duke, and he would give the Suns great size at every position. Regardless of fit, Barrett is simply too talented to pass on, especially considering the massive drop-off in talent after No. 3. It's difficult to see the preseason favorite at No. 1 dropping any more than this.

4. Chicago Bulls

Darius Garland
Vanderbilt
Age: 19.2
G

Height: 6-foot-3 | Weight: 173

Garland's freshman season ended abruptly due to a knee injury just five games in, leaving a cloud of mystery regarding exactly what to expect from him as an NBA rookie. Nevertheless, there's a lot to like about his ability to operate at different speeds, handle the ball on a string and make pull-up jumpers from difficult vantage points. The lack of star power overall and general depth at the point guard position gradually pushed Garland up the lottery as executives expressed disenchantment with the alternatives.

Garland's slender frame, negative assist-to-turnover ratio and lack of experience at the college level are things he'll have to address during the pre-draft process, but he's a natural option for any team that needs a PG once Morant comes off the board.

The Bulls are in desperate need of a franchise-caliber point guard, making Garland an easy fit, considering the pieces they already have in place.

5. Atlanta Hawks

De'Andre Hunter
Virginia
Age: 21.3
F

Height: 6-foot-8 | Weight: 222

Hunter had one of the best national championship performances in recent memory, dropping 27 points and nine rebounds while converting 4 of 5 3-pointers, including some clutch shots late. He had already established himself as one of the best defenders in the college game. He brings positional versatility with long arms, elite lateral quickness and outstanding instincts. While he has some clear limitations offensively as a shot-creator and likely isn't the 3-point shooter his college numbers suggest, his game is made for the modern NBA, and there's a comfort level in his high floor.

The Hawks are well on their way in their rebuilding effort, and Hunter's offensive limitations can certainly be minimized playing alongside the likes of Trae Young, Kevin Huerter and John Collins, as they have a huge positional need for a big wing/combo forward in Hunter's mold.

6. Washington Wizards

Jarrett Culver
Texas Tech
Age: 20.1
G

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 195

Culver helped Texas Tech overachieve significantly in reaching the national championship game. Although he struggled at times in the NCAA tournament, there is quite a bit to like about what he brings on both ends of the floor. Culver has the versatility to slide between any of the backcourt spots, and he's an active defender and rebounder. He displayed impressive shot-making and shot-creation prowess en route to winning Big 12 player of the year.

A slow release on his jump shot and average explosiveness beating defenders off the dribble are things he'll have to address in the pre-draft process, but he has as high a floor as any prospect and plenty of room to grow, considering his youth and late-blooming trajectory. Culver is a terrific fit for the Wizards' rebuilding effort from a character and culture standpoint. Positionally, he brings another creator alongside Bradley Beal.

7. New Orleans Pelicans

Cam Reddish
Duke
Age: 19.6
F

Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 205

Reddish is one of the biggest enigmas of this draft class, as he rarely produced up to his talent level as a freshman and mysteriously missed an NCAA tournament game. Still, his combination of size, length, fluidity and perimeter shooting ability is highly intriguing in a draft that is lacking deep star power. He's too talented to fall much further than this.

The Pelicans can afford to be patient with Reddish early. Playing in a smaller market with less pressure to be an immediate star will be beneficial for him.

8. Memphis Grizzlies

Sekou Doumbouya
Limoges
Age: 18.2
F

Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 210

The Celtics will get the Grizzlies' pick if it falls outside the top eight.

Doumbouya rebounded from a slow start and has been very productive in Pro A France since returning from a hand injury. He has outstanding physical tools for a modern-day NBA forward, particularly defensively, where he shows significant potential, and he has a projectable skill level offensively.

Memphis can afford to be patient with the youngest projected first-rounder in this draft class. He fills a positional need, and the Grizzlies can expedite his development with a heavy amount of offensive reps right away.

9. Atlanta Hawks (via Mavs)

Jaxson Hayes
Texas
Age: 18.8
C

Height: 7-foot | Weight: 220

The Hawks will get the Mavericks' pick if it falls outside the top five.

Hayes came into the season as a complete unknown after hitting a significant growth spurt in high school and registering little productivity prior to college. He proved to be a high-end NBA prospect early on, thanks to his phenomenal physical tools, mobility and instincts on both ends of the floor, cementing himself as the top center prospect in the draft.

Hayes' lack of experience, relatively raw offensive game and still developing feel will likely relegate him to project status for most NBA teams, but that shouldn't be too much of a deterrent at this point in the draft.

The Hawks have been developing John Collins at both big spots. They could be attracted to a 7-footer who projects as an ideal pick-and-roll partner for Trae Young while also anchoring their defense with his rim-protection prowess.

10. Minnesota Timberwolves

Coby White
UNC
Age: 19.1
G

Height: 6-foot-5 | Weight: 191

White was somewhat of an afterthought in recruiting circles among guard prospects in this class, but he was able to take advantage of the green light he received in Roy Williams' system and his seemingly unlimited confidence to jump into the lottery. His impressive size, open-court quickness and shot-making ability make him an ideal fit in the modern NBA game, and he should make strides as a passer and defender as he continues to gain strength and experience.

The Timberwolves have a glaring hole at point guard and could certainly be in the market for a player in White's mold.

11. Los Angeles Lakers

Bol Bol
Oregon
Age: 19.3
C

Height: 7-foot-2 | Weight: 222

The Lakers are in a tricky spot. LeBron James turns 35 later this year, and L.A. wants to win now, which could steer the team toward one of the older players in this draft (Brandon Clarke, Cam Johnson or Rui Hachimura). But the Lakers have a glaring hole at the center position. They also need to add 3-point shooting and rim protection to balance a poorly constructed roster.

Bol has both of those things, and he's a top-five talent in this draft, finding himself this low due to a season-ending foot injury, which is certainly a concern. If the Lakers are thinking about the long term and are willing to roll the dice a bit, Bol's long-term upside could be intriguing.

12. Charlotte Hornets

PJ Washington
Kentucky
Age: 20.6
F

Height: 6-foot-8 | Weight: 223

No matter what happens in free agency, the Hornets could use frontcourt help. Washington has the length to defend multiple positions on the interior, he can stretch the floor from the perimeter, and he brings plenty of long-term upside.

His toughness and versatility will fit well next to Miles Bridges.

13. Miami Heat

Romeo Langford
Indiana
Age: 19.4
F

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 202

Miami's backcourt was in flux all season, as the offensively challenged team searched for answers in what ended up being a disappointing season. With Dwyane Wade off to retirement, it's natural to look at the wing position as an area of need, and Langford will be one of the players under consideration.

The Indiana freshman played most of the season with a torn ligament in his shooting hand, but he displayed impressive glimpses of potential as a shot-creator operating out of the pick-and-roll.

14. Boston Celtics (via Kings)

Brandon Clarke
Gonzaga
Age: 22.5
F

Height: 6-foot-8 | Weight: 210

The 76ers will get the Kings' pick if it jumps to No. 1. Otherwise, this pick goes to the Celtics.

With Boston's bigs potentially hitting free agency, frontcourt could be a real position of need for the Celtics at the draft.

Clarke's versatility as a rim-protecting and pick-and-roll-switching lob-catcher is intriguing on this roster. He will turn 23 prior to his first NBA game and should be ready to step in and help right away.

15. Detroit Pistons

Kevin Porter Jr.
USC
Age: 18.9
G

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 217

Porter will start getting looks as high as the middle of the lottery, but he has some questions to answer about his approach to the game during the pre-draft process.

At this stage of the draft, the rewards likely outweigh the risks, as Detroit is in desperate need of another creator on the perimeter who can shoulder some scoring load. Porter has the size and versatility to slot into a variety of lineup configurations.

16. Orlando Magic

Tyler Herro
Kentucky
Age: 19.2
G

Height: 6-foot-5 | Weight: 193

The Magic have been cycling through backcourt options all season. Although point guard is more of a long-term need, they have Markelle Fultz waiting in the wings and will need to think about Terrence Ross' impending free-agency situation.

Adding a combo guard such as Herro -- who can play pick-and-roll, make shots while set or on the move and bring competitiveness and feel -- makes a lot of sense.

17. Brooklyn Nets

Nassir Little
UNC
Age: 19.1
F

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 215

Little's toughness, athleticism and long-term potential will be attractive to an organization that prides itself on character and work ethic. The team has done a phenomenal job with player development, which would bode well for Little.

The former top-five recruit saw his stock drop after an inconsistent freshman season, but he could work his way back in the lottery with a strong pre-draft process.

18. Indiana Pacers

Rui Hachimura
Gonzaga
Age: 21.1
F

Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 234

A huge chunk of Indiana's rotation is entering free agency this summer, which means the front office probably will go with the best player available, regardless of position.

Hachimura is blessed with outstanding physical tools and impressive athletic ability. He brings the type of character and work ethic the franchise typically values. His ability to play both small forward and power forward in different lineup configurations should be appealing to the franchise.

19. San Antonio Spurs

Talen Horton-Tucker
Iowa State
Age: 18.3
F

Height: 6-foot-4 | Weight: 239

Horton-Tucker is the youngest college player in the first round, and he has intriguing versatility, thanks to his unique build, exceptionally long wingspan and budding ability to shoot off the dribble. The Spurs can afford to be patient with him.

Horton-Tucker's ability to slide between the shooting guard and power forward positions could be attractive considering the players San Antonio already has under contract.

20. Boston Celtics (via Clippers)

Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Virginia Tech
Age: 20.6
G

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 200

The Celtics are loaded at the guard spots, but with both Kyrie Irving and Terry Rozier entering free agency, finding a strong backup in the draft would be wise.

Alexander-Walker is coming off an outstanding sophomore season, making significant strides on both ends of the floor. He has the perimeter-shooting ability, length, feel and versatility that Boston typically covets.

21. Oklahoma City Thunder

Cameron Johnson
UNC
Age: 23.1
F

Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 210

The Thunder are the worst 3-point-shooting team to make the playoffs, and they are perpetually searching for versatile wings and combo forwards.

Johnson was one of the best shooters in college basketball. He also has excellent size and high basketball IQ. As one of the oldest players projected to be drafted, he will be ready to contribute right away.

22. Boston Celtics

Keldon Johnson
Kentucky
Age: 19.4
F

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 210

Danny Ainge has long valued toughness, versatility and 3-point shooting -- all strengths for Johnson.

Although his struggles creating offense off the dribble caused his stock to fall somewhat, Johnson won't need to be much of a ball handler on a team with this much star power.

23. Utah Jazz

Grant Williams
Tennessee
Age: 20.3
F

Height: 6-foot-7 | Weight: 241

If the Jazz are considering moving on from Derrick Favors in free agency, finding a long-term replacement at his position in the draft would help.

Williams possesses the type of feel, toughness and character important to the Jazz organization. He has some untapped upside as a perimeter shooter, which Utah's strong player development staff likely can uncover.

24. Philadelphia 76ers

Matisse Thybulle
Washington
Age: 22.1
F

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 201

The Sixers are flush with creators and scoring at every position, but they could stand to add some defensive versatility on the wing. A player such as Thybulle, arguably the best perimeter defender in college basketball, could fit well, especially since he's a willing ball mover who will have no issue deferring to the team's plethora of stars.

Add the fact that he's a senior -- and thus more in line with the Sixers' timetable -- and he makes a lot of sense.

25. Portland Trail Blazers

Luguentz Dort
ASU
Age: 19.9
G

Height: 6-foot-5 | Weight: 224

The Blazers don't have a great deal of backcourt depth and will see two of their main rotation options hit free agency this summer in Seth Curry and Rodney Hood.

Dort's impressive physical tools, defensive versatility and willingness to do the little things could be attractive in lineups that stagger CJ McCollum and Damian Lillard.

26. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Rockets)

Goga Bitadze
Buducnost
Age: 19.7
C

Height: 6-foot-11 | Weight: 251

The Cavs could be looking to shore up their center position long term. Bitadze has been extremely productive at the highest levels of competition outside the NBA, considering his age.

His excellent skill level offensively -- including his budding ability to stretch the floor -- is attractive, given his combination of size and reach.

27. Brooklyn Nets (via Nuggets)

Mfiondu Kabengele
FSU
Age: 21.6
C

Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 235

The Nets have their starting center of the future in place in Jarrett Allen, but they might look to add another frontcourt piece to the roster with a player who can play either big spot and has the ability to stretch the floor.

Kabengele made huge strides in his sophomore season, and he's on an impressive trajectory considering his late-bloomer status.

28. Golden State Warriors

Carsen Edwards
Purdue
Age: 21.0
G

Height: 6-foot | Weight: 196

The Warriors will need to be creative in adding young, cheap players to their somewhat shallow rotation, considering their luxury-tax situation.

Edwards' shooting range, ability to play on or off the ball and readiness as one of the top scorers in college basketball make him a strong candidate.

29. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors)

KZ Okpala
Stanford
Age: 19.9
F

Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 210

The Spurs don't have a great deal of depth at the forward spots, and they can afford to roll the dice a bit this late in the draft on an upside-laden player in need of development.

Okpala had a late start to basketball, and he's raw in terms of his strength and understanding of the game. However, his physical tools are impressive, and the flashes he has shown as a slasher, defender and perimeter shooter make him worth a long-term investment.

30. Milwaukee Bucks

Ty Jerome
Virginia
Age: 21.7
G

Height: 6-foot-5 | Weight: 200

The Bucks' backcourt rotation has been tested in a serious way with a series of late-season injuries, which could prompt the team to add some depth at the guard spots.

Jerome had a phenomenal junior season culminating in a national championship. His tremendous feel, perimeter-shooting ability and competitiveness stand out at this point in the draft.

Second round
31. Nets (via NYK)

Dylan Windler | SF | Age: 22.5 | Belmont

32. Suns

Eric Paschall | PF | Age: 22.4 | Villanova

33. 76ers (via CLE)

Admiral Schofield | SF/PF | Age: 22.0 | Tennessee

34. 76ers (via CHI)

Bruno Fernando | C | Age: 20.6 | Maryland

35. Hawks

Louis King | SF/PF | Age: 20.0 | Oregon

36. Hornets (via WAS)

Daniel Gafford | C | Age: 20.5 | Arkansas

37. Mavericks

Isaiah Roby | PF | Age: 21.1 | Nebraska

38. Bulls (via MEM)

Jalen McDaniels | SF/PF | Age: 21.1 | San Diego State

39. Pelicans

Luka Samanic | PF | Age: 19.2 | Olimpija Ljubljana

40. Kings (via MIN)

Ignas Brazdeikis | PF | Age: 20.2 | Michigan

41. Hawks (via LAL)

Nic Claxton | C | Age: 19.9 | Georgia

42. 76ers (via SAC)

Chuma Okeke | SF/PF | Age: 20.6 | Auburn

43. Wolves (via MIA)

Jontay Porter | C | Age: 19.4 | Missouri

44. Hawks (via CHA)

Ayo Dosunmu | PG/SG | Age: 19.2 | Illinois

45. Pistons

Darius Bazley | SF/PF | Age: 18.8 | N/A

46. Magic (via BKN)

Dedric Lawson | PF | Age: 21.5 | Kansas

47. Kings (via ORL)

Joshua Obiesie | PG/SG | Age: 18.8 | Wuerzburg

48. Clippers

Deividas Sirvydis | SF | Age: 18.8 | Lietuvos Rytas

49. Spurs

Tremont Waters | PG | Age: 21.2 | LSU

50. Pacers

Naz Reid | PF/C | Age: 19.6 | LSU

51. Celtics

Shamorie Ponds | PG | Age: 20.7 | St. John's

52. Hornets (via OKC)

Jaylen Hoard | PF | Age: 20.0 | Wake Forest

53. Jazz

Charles Bassey | C | Age: 18.4 | Western Kentucky

54. 76ers

Miye Oni | SF | Age: 21.6 | Yale

55. Knicks (via HOU)

Brian Bowen | SF | Age: 20.5 | Sydney

56. Clippers (via POR)

Zylan Cheatham | PF | Age: 23.3 | Arizona State

57. Pelicans (via DEN)

Yovel Zoosman | SF | Age: 20.9 | Maccabi Tel Aviv

58. Warriors

Alen Smailagic | PF/C | Age: 18.6 | Santa Cruz

59. Raptors

Kerwin Roach | PG/SG | Age: 22.4 | Texas

60. Kings (via MIL)

Justin Wright-Foreman | PG | Age: 21.4 | Hofstra
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#676 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:59 am

TBri1974 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
That’s why I don’t buy the argument that you pass on Wiseman because we have Mitch on our team.

I can see those two mobile bigs playing together. Wiseman also seems like the type who can be consistent in the midrange and perhaps could extend even out to the 3pt area.

Also heard that his wingspan is now 7’7. Yowza!

New mock just came out today by DX. Guess who they have drafting Wiseman next year? :D

Spoiler:
1. NYK James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 C 18.0
2. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 SG 17.7
3. PHX Cole Anthony 6-3 PG/SG 18.9
4. CHI Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 PG 17.8
5. ATL Deni Avdija Maccabi Tel Aviv 6-9 SG/SF 18.2
6. WAS Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 PG 18.1
7. DAL Jaden McDaniels 6-10 SF/PF 18.5
8. MEM Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 19.1
9. NOP Precious Achiuwa 6-9 PF 19.5
10. MIN Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 C 17.9
11. LAL Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 SG 18.4
12. CHA Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 19.0
13. MIA Josh Green Arizona 6-5 SG 18.4
14. SAC Trendon Watford 6-9 SF/PF 18.4
15. DET Tre Jones Duke 6-3 PG 19.2
16. BKN Bryan Antoine Villanova 6-5 SG 18.9
17. ORL Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 17.5
18. IND Patrick Williams Florida State 6-8 SF/PF 17.6
19. LAC Kahlil Whitney Kentucky 6-7 SF/PF 18.2
20. SAS Josiah James Tennessee 6-6 SG 18.6
21. BOS Killian Hayes Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 17.7
22. PHI (via OKC) Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 C 18.1
23. UTA Ayo Dosunmu Illinois 6-4 PG/SG 19.2
24. LAC (via PHI) Jordan Poole* Michigan 6-5 PG/SG 19.8
25. HOU Malcolm Cazalon Bourg 6-6 SG 17.6
26. POR A.J. Lawson* South Carolina 6-6 SG 18.7
27. DEN Henri Drell* Bamberg 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
28. GSW Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6-3 PG 19.7
29. TOR Devon Dotson* Kansas 6-2 PG 19.7
30. PHX (via MIL) Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 SF 19.5
31. PHI (via NYK) Jalen Smith Maryland 6-10 PF 19.0
32. CHA (via CLE) LaMelo Ball 6-6 PG/SG 17.6
33. PHX Matthieu Gauzin Le Mans 6-3 PG 18.1
34. CHI Paul Eboua* Roseto 6-8 PF 19.1
35. ATL A.J. Reeves Providence 6-5 SG 19.8
36. NOP (via WAS) Marcos Lousada Silva* Franca 6-6 SF 19.8
37. PHI (via DAL) Arturs Zagars* Joventut 6-3 PG 19.0
38. CHI (via MEM) Obadiah Toppin* Dayton 6-9 PF 21.1
39. NOP Xavier Johnson Pittsburgh 6-3 PG 19.5
40. MIN Jordan Nwora* Louisville 6-8 PF 20.6
41. LAL Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St 6-5 PG 19.1
42. NYK (via CHA) Kira Lewis Alabama 6-3 PG 18.0
43. SAC (via MIA) Isaiah Joe Arkansas 6-5 SG 19.8
44. SAC Ochai Agbaji Kansas 6-5 SF 19.0
45. SAC (via DET) Derrick Alston Boise St 6-8 SF/PF 21.5
46. CHA (via BKN) Joshua Obiesie* Wuerzburg 6-6 PG/SG 18.9
47. ORL Jarron Cumberland* Cincinnati 6-5 SG 21.5
48. IND Cassius Winston Michigan St 6-1 PG 21.1
49. LAC Paul Reed DePaul 6-9 PF 19.8
50. SAS Karlton Dimanche Cholet 6-5 PG/SG 19.1
51. BOS Dalibor Ilic* Igokea 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
52. OKC Paul Scruggs Xavier 6-4 PG/SG 21.1
53. CLE (via UTA) Neemias Queta* Utah St 6-10 C 19.7
54. PHI Tyler Bey Colorado 6-7 PF 20.1
55. DAL (via HOU) Markus Howard Marquette 6-0 PG 20.1
56. BKN (via POR) Kenny Wooten* Oregon 6-9 C 21.0
57. BKN (via DEN) Grant Riller* Charleston 6-3 PG/SG 22.1
58. SAC (via GSW) Rayshaun Hammonds Georgia 6-9 PF 21.4
59. TOR Gytis Masiulis* Neptunas 6-9 PF 21.0
60. NOP (via MIL) Georgios Kalaitzakis Panathinaikos 6-6 SG 20.2
*Player is 2019 draft eligible but may withdraw

Here's what DX had to say about Wiseman
Spoiler:
Rank: No. 1 (previously No. 3)

Long considered the most physically gifted prospect in the 2019 high school class, Wiseman has finally turned the corner with his energy and effort, looking every bit like the No. 1 overall pick in 2020. For years, the often-subdued Wiseman left much to be desired in terms of consistency and overall impact, tantalizing with his incredible fluidity, ideal basketball frame and budding skills, yet struggling to find an elite skill or two to hang his hat on. But Wiseman has looked like a different player over these past few weeks, competing during McDonald's All-American practices, putting a lid on the rim at Nike Hoop Summit with six blocks in 22 minutes and winning co-MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic in Las Vegas with 22 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 24 minutes, featuring a variety of eye-popping plays on both ends.

"Really just getting my conditioning up and making sure I have a consistent motor on a daily basis," Wiseman told ESPN of his improvement. "Studying a lot of film on great bigs in this era. Really going out there and just playing hard because usually in the summertime I always used to be patient. I used to not be involved as well, not running the floor that much even though I had the ability to. So really just doing that on a consistent basis."


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Although the NBA certainly isn't clamoring for more centers, Wiseman checks most every box that teams are looking for in a franchise big man, starting with his ability to protect the rim. While not a prolific shot-blocker at the FIBA or Nike EYBL level, Wiseman brings a 7-foot-5 wingspan, 9-3 standing reach, agility and steadily improving instincts that should allow him to anchor a defense at the next level. His measurables rival Joel Embiid's at the same age.

"Timing is everything [with shot-blocking]," Wiseman said. "I've been studying a lot of David Robinson highlights. A lot of Hakeem Olajuwon highlights. So really just studying my timing and really just being there, being alert, improving myself awareness and just be active on both ends of the floor."

While he needs to improve his fundamentals and discipline defending ball screens, Wiseman is also more than comfortable stepping out and sliding with point guards on switches. He stonewalled Jaden McDaniels during the Nike Hoop Summit scrimmage and moves with impressive grace for a player his size. His aggressiveness on the defensive glass is underwhelming at times, but he's really rounding out into a defensive weapon (à la Jaren Jackson Jr.).

Offensively, Wiseman has proved he can add value as a rim runner, lob catcher and even an occasional bust-out ball handler, as he's extremely agile and slithery with unique ball skills. In the half court, though, he's still finding himself, often shying away from contact and opting for finesse over physicality. He's not the most instinctual passer at this stage and lives off a lot of step-back, long 2-pointers in search of earning the unicorn tag. But the fact that he even has the footwork to get to those shots is encouraging, along with his touch to step out and make an occasional 3, a right-shoulder jump hook or a goofy-foot finish.

Although Georgia's Anthony Edwards still poses a major threat at the No. 1 spot given his shot creation at a more coveted position, NBA scouts were wowed by Wiseman's tools and upside, and teams will spend no shortage of time in Memphis next season evaluating the 18-year-old hometown kid on his chase toward becoming the No. 1 pick in 2020. -- Schmitz


Anthony Edwards
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Rank: No. 2 (previously No. 2)

Edwards was up-and-down at times in his two all-star events -- McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- but vividly showed his talent, and he has a real opportunity to be the No. 1 pick in the draft. Edwards came into McDonald's practices noticeably out of shape but had already trimmed down by the time Jordan Brand rolled around, as he has the type of frame that can get heavy in time if he's not careful about his diet and work habits.

Edwards is a prototype for a modern NBA guard prospect with his ideal combination of size, length, body control, explosiveness, shot-making ability and defensive versatility. His ability to play at different speeds in pick-and-roll, his strength to get his own shot rising up off the dribble, and the scoring instincts he displays finishing through contact are exactly what teams are looking for.

With that said, Edwards is still a bit of an unknown commodity, as he reclassified into the 2020 draft late, played off the radar in high school and AAU, and turned down numerous opportunities with USA Basketball. His effort level comes and goes, he can be very streaky with his jump shot, and his decision-making is still at an early stage. NBA teams say Edwards has some convincing to do to show he can be trusted to be such a high draft pick, but that's exactly why the age minimum was implemented, and he's in a perfect situation at Georgia to show he's worthy of a million-dollar investment. -- Givony


Cole Anthony
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MVP of McDonald's and Jordan Brand -- and the leading scorer for the U.S. in a win at the Nike Hoop Summit -- Anthony displayed alpha-dog status in this class, as he dropped 64 points in 74 minutes on 43 shots between the three games. Yet NBA teams continue to express a degree of skepticism regarding how that might translate to higher levels of competition due to his streaky jumper, his reluctance to make others better and his head-down, at-times-ugly style of play.

Nevertheless, it's difficult not to be impressed by Anthony's scoring instincts and ability to manufacture offense out of nothing, as his ability to play at different speeds, make difficult shots off the bounce and seek out contact are coveted qualities in today's NBA. He's willing to put his body on the line defensively, stepping in for charges, and he has a little more ability to find teammates off the bounce in drive-and-dish situations than he gets credit for.

At the college level we'll get a better sense for how good of an athlete, shooter, defender and facilitator Anthony is, as well as his skills as a teammate and overall winner -- things on which you hear mixed feedback. Still, it's difficult to argue with his standing among his peers in this class considering how dominant he has been in every setting, and others will need to show they have more value as NBA prospects before we can forecast Anthony going any lower than this. -- Givony


This dude named Precious Achiuwa has been raising his stock massively as of recent. He's super impressive. Might go top 5.
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Rank: No. 9 (previously unranked)

Coming off a 22-point performance (on 20 attempts) in the McDonald's game, Achiuwa strung together an outstanding week of practice in Portland, culminating in a strong 15-point, 11-rebound outing at the Nike Hoop Summit game. After an up-and-down high school senior season with Montverde, Achiuwa seemed to benefit from the added spacing of these settings with more opportunities to showcase his on-ball skill set. Achiuwa displayed impressive upside with his physical profile (6-9, 7-2 wingspan), explosive athleticism, budding shot-making ability and flashes of defensive prowess.

Achiuwa is a hungry scorer who is aggressive attacking the rim in the open floor, pulling up off the dribble, shooting with his feet set and taking difficult shots from inside the arc. His ability to change speeds powerfully, finish above the rim and throw in jumpers is intriguing for a player his size, even if his tunnel-vision decision-making and shot selection still often leave a lot to be desired. Achiuwa also is a playmaker defensively who wows you at times with his versatility switching onto guards and protecting the rim. His feel for the game and overall consistency are still a major work in progress, though, and going to the right school will be paramount for him. Ultimately, his combination of tools and talent are just too tantalizing to not project as a lottery talent now. -- Givony


Couldn't Precious declare for this year?

Yeah I think he can
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I’m jumping over to team garland
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FatboyRealPetty wrote:I’m jumping over to team garland


I was told Morant vs Garland is like RWB vs Lillard.

I’ll allow it :lol:
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look at the point guards thriving in the playoffs. steph, lillard, curry. all dynamic shooters with DEEEEEP range who can pull up on a dime.

“but but what about playmaking and triple doubles?”

that’s not the style you win with in the nba at your point guard position.
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FatboyRealPetty wrote:I’m jumping over to team garland


guards that can shoot > guards that can't shoot
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