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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#661 » by Knick4Real » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:02 am

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She has never wanted to go into politics herself
Which makes her the perfect person for the job. She isnt some privileged white karen thining she has some kind of birthright to the presidency.



Biden already issued a stern public warning to Putin. With him and Harris I'd feel comfortable that we'd restore our alliances. Much as I'd rather focus on domestic and environmental issues, what Trump did to our foreign relationships is truly obscene and the damage needs strong leadership that can show our allies measures will be taken so America never falls into the hand of a fascist puppet again.

If it is Harris then I really, really, really want Schiff to take the AG job and prosecute the living hell out of these criminals. I want them to be tried and convicted for treason.


There's talk that at the 11th hour, Trump will pardon himself and all his family/flunkies. So, the real prosecution will come from the Southern District Court of NY since a federal pardon can not protect him against state charges. The new US Attorney General may not have to lift a finger. NY has been quietly preparing to lower the boom on the Trump's the second he's out of office.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#662 » by Knick4Real » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:07 am

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aq_ua wrote:I do keep wondering if there is a grand plan to get Michelle into office at some point, once the stigma around the Clintons dies down a bit. Maybe, but she doesn't seem like the type. 80-20 Oprah is how I see it.


She has never wanted to go into politics herself
Which makes her the perfect person for the job. She isnt some privileged white karen thining she has some kind of birthright to the presidency.

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I had the fortune of working for the Obama campaign for a time. Believe me, Mrs. Obama has ZERO interest in politics or in being president. Remember, she had to endure years of being called a monkey/ape and all the insults against her kids as well as her husband. She does NOT want to return to that life. She's very happy being a millionaire while making speeches, writing books, and being a revered figure above the fray.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#663 » by Jeffrey » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:14 am

This is my list and it has changed:

1. Warren - we need a VP that will push for tax reforms (raising taxes on corporations, 1%, etc.)
2. Susan Rice - need someone with foreign exposure and she has a ton of it
3. Harris - definitely has the teeth to dig into a guy like Trump
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#664 » by robillionaire » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:15 am

cool to see cori bush going to congress
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#665 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:15 am

Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

-more-


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#666 » by robillionaire » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:37 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

-more-


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”


I keep telling myself I'm not going to watch them. But it's like those Beirut explosion videos. Horrible but you still want to watch out of morbid curiosity. We don't need debates. We know who these people are.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#667 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:40 am

Progressive Democrat, Cori Bush, just stunned ten-term Missouri Congressperson Lacy Clay, whose family held the seat for over 50 years.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/elections/lacy-clay-cori-bush-race/63-ae40e3ac-12f5-4b70-aab3-e247529e1e6d

Progressive activist Cori Bush beats 10-term U.S. Congressman Lacy Clay in Democratic primary
The seat had been held by a member of the Clay family for more than 50 years
Author: Sam Clancy
August 4, 2020

ST. LOUIS — For the first time since the 1960s, Missouri's 1st Congressional District will be represented by someone outside of the Clay family.

Progressive activist Cori Bush defeated 10-term congressman William Lacy Clay Jr. in Tuesday's Democratic primary, defeating Missouri's longest-serving Congress member. Missouri's 1st Congressional District is made up of St. Louis city and parts of St. Louis County. With 100% of the vote in in St. Louis and St. Louis County, Bush beat Clay 72,812 to 68,201.

Bush is an activist, nurse and lifelong St. Louisan who came onto the political scene in the wake of the deadly police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson in 2014. According to her campaign website, her progressive platform includes support for criminal justice and prison reform, medicare for all and the Green New Deal.

She was endorsed by Bernie Sanders and gained the support of Justice Democrats, a national progressive group that has thrown support behind Sanders' presidential campaign and the campaigns of congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib. The group also supported Jamaal Bowman, who defeated 16-term incumbent Representative Eliot Engel in New York earlier this year.

Clay has held the seat for Missouri's 1st Congressional District for nearly 20 years and sits on the House Committee on Financial Services and the House Committee on Oversight and Reform. The office has been held by a member of the Clay family since Lacy Clay's father and St. Louis civil rights icon Bill Clay was sworn in back in 1969.

After his father announced his retirement in 2001, Lacy Clay emerged from a crowded Democratic primary and handily won the general election in 2001. Entering Tuesday night, he had handily won re-election every election since.

Tuesday night's primary was a rematch from 2018 when Clay beat Bush by about 20% in a four-person race.

Bush is all but certain to win the general election in November. She will face Anthony Rogers who won the Republican primary for Missouri's 1st District Tuesday night.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#668 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 5, 2020 4:52 am

Knick4Real wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
blanko wrote:Which makes her the perfect person for the job. She isnt some privileged white karen thining she has some kind of birthright to the presidency.



Biden already issued a stern public warning to Putin. With him and Harris I'd feel comfortable that we'd restore our alliances. Much as I'd rather focus on domestic and environmental issues, what Trump did to our foreign relationships is truly obscene and the damage needs strong leadership that can show our allies measures will be taken so America never falls into the hand of a fascist puppet again.

If it is Harris then I really, really, really want Schiff to take the AG job and prosecute the living hell out of these criminals. I want them to be tried and convicted for treason.


There's talk that at the 11th hour, Trump will pardon himself and all his family/flunkies. So, the real prosecution will come from the Southern District Court of NY since a federal pardon can not protect him against state charges. The new US Attorney General may not have to lift a finger. NY has been quietly preparing to lower the boom on the Trump's the second he's out of office.


Cyrus Vance, Jr. just revealed the grand jury is investigating charges on a much broader level than previously understood. It is now clear it goes well beyond charity fraud and covers insurance fraud. And it covers not just Trump, but the core team of the Trump Organization which basically means CFO Allen Weisselberg (who probably cooperated quite a while back), Ivanka and Tweedle Dum and Dee.

Michael Cohen fingered Trump for insurance fraud under oath to Congress. And he gave them the road map to convict Trump so it is pretty much a sure thing Trump cannot escape indictment in New York.

As far as escaping federal crimes via pardon, I pretty much doubt that since he'd have to resign to let Pence pardon him. And since Pence is a co-conspirator, it is likely any pardon would be overturned by SCOTUS since no POTUS has ever been pardoned by a partner in crime. That is not the province of pardons.

But if he is never charged by the DoJ, we can be confident he and his family won't escape local prosecutions.

One of the key things I believe motivating the NY Grand Jury is to get convictions for Trump, Don Jr. and Ivanka so they have criminal records which may derail family ambitions for a Trump political dynasty. Putting them out of the political business as a family would be a great public service.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#669 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 5, 2020 5:00 am

robillionaire wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

-more-


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”


I keep telling myself I'm not going to watch them. But it's like those Beirut explosion videos. Horrible but you still want to watch out of morbid curiosity. We don't need debates. We know who these people are.


Don't be surprised if Trump backs out. He always plays chicken with people and then gets cold feet. All of that nonsense about Sleepy Joe has backfired on him and now that he has to put up or shut up I half expect him to bail on the debates.

Every time Trump opens his mouth now is a disaster. The only way these debates happen is if Trump's ego overrules his advisors, because unless his team wants him to lose (and there is some scuttlebutt out there this may be the case), then they're going to try to keep him off that stage.

Joe could take a nap on stage every few minutes and he would still moida dat bum if Trump does show up. Trump's brain has devolved into a jumbled word salad with a 100 word vocabulary. It won't play well
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#670 » by Knick4Real » Wed Aug 5, 2020 5:26 am

robillionaire wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

-more-


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”


I keep telling myself I'm not going to watch them. But it's like those Beirut explosion videos. Horrible but you still want to watch out of morbid curiosity. We don't need debates. We know who these people are.


It's a double-edged sword. Biden could slip up and hand Trump some momentum if he goes through with the debates. Or, Trump could build the case that Biden is scared of him if he doesn't go through with the debates. To be honest, I think minds are already made up and the debates won't matter much.
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Post#671 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:16 am

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I keep telling myself I'm not going to watch them. But it's like those Beirut explosion videos. Horrible but you still want to watch out of morbid curiosity. We don't need debates. We know who these people are.


It's a double-edged sword. Biden could slip up and hand Trump some momentum if he goes through with the debates. Or, Trump could build the case that Biden is scared of him if he doesn't go through with the debates. To be honest, I think minds are already made up and the debates won't matter much.


All Biden has to do is hammer Trump three times per debate on why he has not responded to Putin's bounty on American soldiers.
Trump can't answer this.

Reminding the public of this multiple times shines a light on an issue that very much erodes swing voter support. Military veterans are not amused. Rub it in Trump's faces while a family with a veteran sits at the telly and watches is going to take more votes from Trump.

Do it several times and he loses more support. Trump has no comparable ace up his sleeve.

This is not a toss-up.

The odds weigh heavily in Biden's favor that he either holds steady or gains voters from the debates, but

The odds that Trump gains voters is slim while the chances of him losing more votes is greater.

Biden has solid targets to carpet bomb Trump with Putin, the soldiers, the pandemic, the economy, threatening to overturn election results. It's a smorgasord for Biden and he'll be well prepared.

Trump has shown no capacity for targeting Biden in a like manner. He'll call him a socialist and will be busted when he lies about defunding. If he goes after Hunter Biden he'll get hammered back with the impeachment and his own family's grifting.

I see nothing that Trump can say that is going to weaken Biden so yeah the only thing Biden has to lose is saying something eggregious himself. I doubt that will happen. He'll probably come off looking pretty fierce and ready to take down Trump.

What the debates will cement for many swing voters is Biden is actually a president. Being presidential is a thing. It will be the topic after the first debate. Twitter will trend with #PresidentBiden and the pundits will say Biden was presidential. It is fairly inevitable IMO.

Too many people voted for Trump with a shrug and said fukit what have we got to lose. Seeing the contrast between the sweating orange oaf and an actual practicing, experienced legislator will drive home to them what a difference it is. The base will never care, but the base doesn't matter. It is everyone else and many people who have voted Republican in the past have to be sick of this incompetence and madness too. The debates will frame everything in a crystal clear manner for them.

When the standard "Where do you want to be in four years?" question pops up, how can Trump convince anyone on the fence they are going to be more prosperous, safer and healthier with him remaining in charge? He can't and he won't.
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Post#672 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Aug 5, 2020 12:55 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

-more-


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”


I love Jill Biden. I think she's the one pushing Joe to run in the first place. She has a blind spot for his cognitive issues and a thirst for the office.

This beat down is going to be biblical. They'll be talking about this for decades to come.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#673 » by j4remi » Wed Aug 5, 2020 1:17 pm

Cori Bush just broke a 50 year family dynasty hold on a congressional seat. She's been a voice for BLM since Ferguson and she was featured in "Knock Down the House" the documentary on Netflix that followed AOC and 3 others running against embedded incumbent Dems. Her run this year didn't get the full left infrastructure behind it. The only Squad-related person to endorse her was Bowman. Sunrise Movement and Bernie were the only majors to get behind her. Clay also doesn't fit the "progressives only beat old white men who aren't living in their district" mold; which makes this a unique dub.

She's a really interesting Rep with an inspiring story behind her. Def peep Knock Down the House for some more on her. Squad gen 2 is looking like at a minimum it's got 3 more in Bowman, Newman and now Bush...those three have the type of charisma and authenticity that the Squad members had imo.

I've heard that promising Justice Reform DA's performed well too, but I have to look into that.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#674 » by GONYK » Wed Aug 5, 2020 3:11 pm

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Thanks for letting all know how wonderful you are to hang out with. What else are you good at? Tell us more. Are you also a stable genius? lol

I found a pic from one of your parties

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Ok. You win. That does sound pretty damn cool. When is the next one? Can I bring you anything down from NY?

One question though, did you ever save anyone’s life?

Edit: and you did have my back on more than a couple of occasions. Fck you! :D


You have a standing invite to every party I'll ever throw :beer:
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Post#676 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:01 pm

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I love Jill Biden. I think she's the one pushing Joe to run in the first place. She has a blind spot for his cognitive issues and a thirst for the office.

This beat down is going to be biblical. They'll be talking about this for decades to come.


OK, then please promise to report back here after the first debate so we can compare notes.

And if Trump craps the bed, I still expect to see you here with your cap in your hand to say Trump did not perform to your expectations.

I would be glad to do the same for you if Biden performs badly and Trump does well.

See you then
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Post#677 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:03 pm

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Biden is more comfortable with Rice, but Harris is the stronger choice to win in November.
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Post#678 » by j4remi » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:44 pm

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I don't have a great reason for not wanting anything to do with Rice...but I just really don't want to have to deal with another few months of Benghazi BS as the GOP seeks any way to regain hateful momentum against the Democrats.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#679 » by Thepaintismine » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:50 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”


I'll be shocked if Biden debates Trump. That dude B losin his mind.
Watch the last few seconds and not the topic and note what Biden said to this man.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#680 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:58 pm

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I don't have a great reason for not wanting anything to do with Rice...but I just really don't want to have to deal with another few months of Benghazi BS as the GOP seeks any way to regain hateful momentum against the Democrats.


Yeah, it's an unfortunate problem. I've heard Trumpers utter "Benghazi" like it was a lucky charm. Apparently you can hold endless hearings and conduct multiple investigations and come up empty handed, yet still it persists as a relevant meme in the vegetable brains of the flock. Rice will be subjected to this nonsense.

The one thing you can count on from Kamala is her ability to shut people down. You come at her and you likely will get your head handed back to you. These times require warriors to lead the Democrats to achieve victory and stabilization of democratic functions. For that reason alone, I see why Harris is a good choice for this election and the next 8 years. There is a lot of damage to repair and you're going to need tough as nails anti-corruption people at the top.

TBH, I'm not certain about Rice's leadership qualities. She could be excellent and I just don't know it yet. At least I'm pretty confident about Harris' ability to take charge.

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