Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

[polarbears815]

Tommy Beer ‏@TommyBeer via Twitter
Smart/winning teams retain valuable assets, especially when it doesn’t cost them players or impact their cap space.

But that’s not the case. Again, it’s Lin or NOTHING. Grunwald can't use that $25 MM next summer. No-brainer from a “basketball perspective”

If NPBA had lost that court ruling & NY had to decide b/w Lin & someone else for MLE, maybe then I'd understand arguing against matching...

[Falstaffxx]

I personally don't care about Melo and I'm fine that he tried to clean up the mess.

You did very much Sunday and Monday.

Forget about what I think or don't think about him myself, or how I feel...

Backtracking. You posted "think about it" followed by you instructing others how you think and felt many, many times.

You're saving face now.

KnicksGod is providing his thoughts on the Knicks. You're providing your thoughts on KnicksGod.

[phoenixx]

I'm pretty confident in my predictions...

I'm close to convinced -- on gut and some educated guesses -- that if we do match, it will represent a reversal of a decision to let him go.

I'm not just pretty confident in my prediction, I ABSOLUTELY predicted unequivocally for the record this is exactly how you'd explain away your histrionics.

You're clearly hedging now with the change in the direction of the wind. You're rewriting the last few days so that NO MATTER what happens, you were right with every change in stance and the people who never wavered, who maintained a position, predicted the exact course of events, and suggested all the drama was for show, were wrong.

That's an incredible skill you possess.

This makes no sense. Are people making bets or something? Are people going on television? It doesn't matter if someone is right or wrong on their prediction unless there's something to gain or lose.

[Deeeez Knicks]

It still doesn’t make sense. I just don’t see any logical reason why we wouldn’t match.

It just cant be about money. Not after we splurged the last 2 offseasons. Not after we had endless pockets for years. Not for a tax that we may have to pay 3 years from now. We never think that far ahead.

There’s got to be some other reasons….

[NOOB77]

Melo said he wants Lin. Chandler said he wants Lin. Melo said Dolan wants Lin. If all three of those are true which I am sure the first two are then the Knicks will have Lin. Just like Dolan wanting Melo regardless of the cost. Dolan gets what he wants. So it will all come down to what Dolan wants. If he wants Lin we keep him if not then he is gone.

[Knicks_Fan2]

I'm pretty confident in my predictions...

I'm close to convinced -- on gut and some educated guesses -- that if we do match, it will represent a reversal of a decision to let him go.

I'm not just pretty confident in my prediction, I ABSOLUTELY predicted unequivocally for the record this is exactly how you'd explain away your histrionics.

You're clearly hedging now with the change in the direction of the wind. You're rewriting the last few days so that NO MATTER what happens, you were right with every change in stance and the people who never wavered, who maintained a position, predicted the exact course of events, and suggested all the drama was for show, were wrong.

That's an incredible skill you possess.

Cosign

[K_ick_God]

I personally don't care about Melo and I'm fine that he tried to clean up the mess.

You did very much Sunday and Monday.

Forget about what I think or don't think about him myself, or how I feel...

Backtracking. You posted "think about it" followed by you instructing others how you think and felt many, many times.

You're saving face now.

You should channel your energies into polishing your logic and powers of perception and less into worrying about me.

[adrenaLINe]

There are three possible outcomes with Lin:

1) He becomes a star and outperforms his contract. If this happens, not matching will be a huge embarrassment.

2) He becomes a good starting caliber PG but nothing special. If this happens, someone will still want to trade for him as long as he proves he belongs to the floor. Not matching will cost us an asset that we could get.

3) He proves to be a complete bust and does not belong to the NBA. If we match him, he will be either a very large expiring contract that could be used or he is waived and his remaining salary will be paid in three years. It won't be a 45 million dollar tax hit as some claims. It will just be an embarrassment like the many ones we had in the past and Dolan made them go away paying the salary.

Surely the mistake will not cost as much as letting Marbury sit at home for 20 million + tax

or Shandon Anderson for 21 million + tax (and play for someone else)

or Jalen Rose for 15 million + tax (and play for someone else)

or Larry Brown for however that much was.

Oooh oooh ooh, now do one for Ray Felton!

There are two possibilities with Raymond Felton:

1) He will eat himself out of the league.

2) He will eat himself out of this world.

you guys are being very mean to you number 1... PG now....

[NOOB77]

i find i funny how no media outlet is talking about melos comments from last night.

Well they are positive so nothing to see here.

[NewJerzeyKnick]

Once again, why do people keep focusing on the third year, and don't acknowledge that we get to audition him for 2 years at $5M/yr before we even need to entertain the idea of whether that third year is worth it?

This.

and we should be able to dump stat by that third year as well, which means much lower tax if any.

[Falstaffxx]

i find i funny how no media outlet is talking about melos comments from last night.

His comments from last night were meaningless...actually they just continued the offensiveness, with the ludicrous "people always do this to me boo hoo" bit. The guy made a public statement about a teammate's contract that is absolutely unheard of. Something you can NEVER do under any circumstance. Bullcrapping about how much you want him there means nothing.

[Nono]

So what's the news people. Why has everyone started to think we won't match? Has something happened since last night ?

[NOOB77]

i find i funny how no media outlet is talking about melos comments from last night.

His comments from last night were meaningless...actually they just continued the offensiveness, with the ludicrous "people always do this to me boo hoo" bit. The guy made a public statement about a teammate's contract that is absolutely unheard of. Something you can NEVER do under any circumstance. Bullcrapping about how much you wanting him there means nothing.

Boring.

[AmazingJason]

Damn, what the heck happened overnight? Melo pretty much confirmed that it was a formality that Lin is getting matched, just that the details need to be handled. Why is everyone so worried again?

WTF are you talking about?

Seriously...what has happened to people's ability to comprehend what they read?

"With Jeremy, I know he definitely wants to be back in New York & Dolan definitely wants him back."
"It's just a matter of them figuring it out at this point."

I don't know about you, but to me, this is as close as confirmation as one can get. These are specific, calculated comments provided by Melo and tweeted by a Newsday guy.

[seren]

There are two possibilities with Raymond Felton:

1) He will eat himself out of the league.

2) He will eat himself out of this world.

you guys are being very mean to you number 1... PG now....

We have seen this way too many times. Clearence Weatherspoon, Jerome James, Eddy Curry. List goes on and on.

[cgmw]

There are three possible outcomes with Lin:

1) He becomes a star and outperforms his contract. If this happens, not matching will be a huge embarrassment.

2) He becomes a good starting caliber PG but nothing special. If this happens, someone will still want to trade for him as long as he proves he belongs to the floor. Not matching will cost us an asset that we could get.

3) He proves to be a complete bust and does not belong to the NBA. If we match him, he will be either a very large expiring contract that could be used or he is waived and his remaining salary will be paid in three years. It won't be a 45 million dollar tax hit as some claims. It will just be an embarrassment like the many ones we had in the past and Dolan made them go away paying the salary.

Surely the mistake will not cost as much as letting Marbury sit at home for 20 million + tax

or Shandon Anderson for 21 million + tax (and play for someone else)

or Jalen Rose for 15 million + tax (and play for someone else)

or Larry Brown for however that much was.

He wont just be an expiring bc if we deal with a team over the cap we'd have to take back 85% in salary (not sure on % it could be 75) but it'll be more contracts we'd have to take back


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Uh, yeah, that would kind of be the point. Plenty of good players out there make 85% of $14.8m. Do you have any other suggestions about how to sign a player making between $12-18m?

Oh and BTW if he's a complete bust and we want to rebuild, we could just -- oh, I don't know -- do something whacky like let the Lin contract just expire along with Amar'e, Melo & Tyson's.

[K_ick_God]

I personally don't care about Melo and I'm fine that he tried to clean up the mess.

You did very much Sunday and Monday.

Forget about what I think or don't think about him myself, or how I feel...

Backtracking. You posted "think about it" followed by you instructing others how you think and felt many, many times.

You're saving face now.

KnicksGod is providing his thoughts on the Knicks. You're providing your thoughts on KnicksGod.

Exactly.

To the extent that things have moved back in a good direction, he deserves some credit for predicting that. I don't mind handing out credit and he seems to want it so badly.

But the fact of the matter is that the consensus REMAINS that Lin is not likely to remain. New York Times, not exactly Incarcerated Bob, still says it's more likely than not that Lin is gone.

One or two positive reports don't change that, unfortunately.

But he deserves his cookie anyway. Come get your cookie suicide:

[QueenzAllDay]

The last time I felt this way was when they broke the report LeBron was going to Miami (After all the "LeBron is leaning towards NY" reports).

It doesn't make any sense to my why the Knicks would NOT match Lin's offer but yet people keep reporting that we will not.

I don't understand....

[Realmatic]

Melo name dropped dolan. You just dont name drop your boss unless you know the deal. By namedropping dolan he effectively put DOlan into the spotlight and if lin isnt matched Dolan will be the scapegoat.

[papiculo]

AmazingJason, while normal folks slept everyone else has had the entire night to go back into panic mode. I suspect they were expecting an announcement at 3am.