Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[DOT]

I'm starting to warm up on him

Some of the passes he makes are great, he clearly has an eye for passing. My biggest concerns are that he doesn't have the craftiness to get around guys, so he's gonna have to go through them. Might be best off playing him at SG than SF to give him the size advantage

And obviously I question his decision making. And I question if we're the best org to develop him and learn him how to make the right plays and make him give effort on defense

3 point shooting is what it is with me. That's either gonna develop or it isn't with him. I can't really say, so you just hope he becomes good enough on that end

Still bummed we didn't get Zion, but he might be an okay consolation prize if we keep him

[F N 11]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

[HerSports85]

someone reminded me that Nash and Durant are very close, work out together every summer. He’s his shooting coach as well. Wonder if had the chance to be around Barrett.

[HerSports85]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

I think it’s that and we really don’t know if we’re keeping the pick

[DowNY]

someone reminded me that Nash and Durant are very close, work out together every summer. He’s his shooting coach as well. Wonder if had the chance to be around Barrett.

And the connections to KD continues

[DowNY]

Oh yeah, Steve Nash is on the Warriors staff. Forgot. Well then.

[DOT]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

I think it’s that and we really don’t know if we’re keeping the pick

That's my thing is, it's hard to get excited when I'm not even sure we're getting someone

And I was never really all in on AD like some people. Feel like we might be better off keeping our assets and hoping they grow than going all in on him

[HarthorneWingo]

Most dead pre-draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

What's done is done. Besides, there was an 86% chance that our dream would not come true anyhow. If our brass didn't plan for this contingency, then off with their heads.

Just (1) pick the right guy, and (2) make the right trade. Everything else not relevant.

[HEZI]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

I think it’s that and we really don’t know if we’re keeping the pick

That and we know we are getting RJ Barrett and there's only so much you can discuss when it comes to one player. It's not like picking 8th and we are considering multiple options. The top 3 draft order is already set and yeah we might not even keep him so ....

[King of Canada]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

I don’t remember the last time we were set on a player so early, so there isn’t much to talk about. Then pair that with the general anxiety about a possible trade.

I want the AD trade but I’d be more excited not doing the trade

[knickstape21]

I'm starting to warm up on him

Some of the passes he makes are great, he clearly has an eye for passing. My biggest concerns are that he doesn't have the craftiness to get around guys, so he's gonna have to go through them. Might be best off playing him at SG than SF to give him the size advantage

And obviously I question his decision making. And I question if we're the best org to develop him and learn him how to make the right plays and make him give effort on defense

3 point shooting is what it is with me. That's either gonna develop or it isn't with him. I can't really say, so you just hope he becomes good enough on that end

Still bummed we didn't get Zion, but he might be an okay consolation prize if we keep him

Good point on the craftiness/blow by ability. We didn’t see much of it. He barrels into people (and still scores a bunch).

He also has 1-2 passes a game that I’ll literally say out loud “dude what the hell was that?!”

BUT, if he settles down a little, learns the NBA game/flow, and starts to blow by people for layups, he’ll be really good!

[GONYK]

I'm starting to warm up on him

Some of the passes he makes are great, he clearly has an eye for passing. My biggest concerns are that he doesn't have the craftiness to get around guys, so he's gonna have to go through them. Might be best off playing him at SG than SF to give him the size advantage

And obviously I question his decision making. And I question if we're the best org to develop him and learn him how to make the right plays and make him give effort on defense

3 point shooting is what it is with me. That's either gonna develop or it isn't with him. I can't really say, so you just hope he becomes good enough on that end

Still bummed we didn't get Zion, but he might be an okay consolation prize if we keep him

I'm not crazy high on him, but I take him over Morant every day of the week.

For someone who's playmaking ability is being touted so highly, he didn't really manipulate the defense the way you would have liked to have seen at the college level. His handle, shot, and decision making need a lot of growth to really unlock the ceiling that people see for him. He spent more time trying to go through guys than really making his impact from a place of skill. His functional athleticism was good, but not elite at the college level, so he's going to have to get craftier in the NBA.

That being said, there are parts of his game that are pretty advanced for someone his age. If that jumper improves, a lot of other aspects about his game become unlocked, and the improved spacing can provide more room to operate. He's unquestionably a top prospect in the draft, and was probably my ideal target until around December when he started to fall into hero ball and never looked back.

He's intriguing because he's a player with a foundation of skills that can pretty much fill any gap in a lineup from the swingman position...provided the jumper comes around.

Obviously, he's the favorite at 3. He's not so far ahead of the pack that I wouldn't consider moving down or drafting someone else, but his talent is enough that I'd take him and not have any regrets.

[KnixinSix]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

I think it’s that and we really don’t know if we’re keeping the pick

That's my thing is, it's hard to get excited when I'm not even sure we're getting someone

And I was never really all in on AD like some people. Feel like we might be better off keeping our assets and hoping they grow than going all in on him

Growing has many risks when you just landed the top player in the NBA who is already 30. We're in win now mode once KD signs whether you like it or not.

[KnixinSix]

I'm starting to warm up on him

Some of the passes he makes are great, he clearly has an eye for passing. My biggest concerns are that he doesn't have the craftiness to get around guys, so he's gonna have to go through them. Might be best off playing him at SG than SF to give him the size advantage

And obviously I question his decision making. And I question if we're the best org to develop him and learn him how to make the right plays and make him give effort on defense

3 point shooting is what it is with me. That's either gonna develop or it isn't with him. I can't really say, so you just hope he becomes good enough on that end

Still bummed we didn't get Zion, but he might be an okay consolation prize if we keep him

I'm not crazy high on him, but I take him over Morant every day of the week.

For someone who's playmaking ability is being touted so highly, he didn't really manipulate the defense the way you would have liked to have seen at the college level. His handle, shot, and decision making need a lot of growth to really unlock the ceiling that people see for him. He spent more time trying to go through guys than really . His functional athleticism was good, but not elite at the college level, so he's going to have to get craftier in the NBA.

That being said, there are parts of his game that are pretty advanced for someone his age. If that jumper improves, a lot of other aspects about his game become unlocked, and the improved spacing can provide more room to operate. He's unquestionably a top prospect in the draft, and was probably my ideal target until around December when he started to fall into hero ball and never looked back.

He's intriguing because he's a player with a foundation of skills that can pretty much fill any gap in a lineup from the swingman position...provided the jumper comes around.

Obviously, he's the favorite at 3. He's not so far ahead of the pack that I wouldn't consider moving down or drafting someone else, but his talent is enough that I'd take him and not have any regrets.

Great thing is he's likely #1 on the list for Pels after Zion .

[awy]

brandon clarke did some insane agility numbers at the combine, faster and jumps higher than john wall.

need to see cam reddish numbers

[Polk377]

I am really hoping the Knicks keep the pick and take Barrett. I don't see Harden but a lot of young DeMar DeRozen the way he gets to the basket. If we can get top players like KD and Irving it will help him grow like Harden did around KD and Westbrook.

I am so excited about the youth this team has now. Perry and Mills have done a fantastic job. DSJ, Mitch, Knox, Frank, Trier, Barrett and Mudiay (yes, i expect him back) is a ton of moldable potential. Put a couple of stars with some capable vets and they will flourish.

I am hoping when all is said and done we end up with a roster of:

PG: Irving/DSJ/Mudiay
SG: Barrett/Frank/Trier
SF: Knox/Danny Green/Vince Carter
PF: Durant/Vonleh/Kornet
C: Robinson/Jordan

I think Knicks would be more likely to keep Barrett if they strike out in FA. If they get KD and one of Kemba/Kyrie/Butler then you can bet the stars will pressure mgmt to trade the pick and find a third guy. Number 3 + Knox + Robinson probably beats whatever the Celtics could offer for AD. Or maybe they keep the pick in the event they strike out on the top tier stars and wind up paying someone like Harris or Boogie.

It would be better for Barrett to go to a bad team where he's given the freedom to work on his game. That kid has a lot of warts but I like your Derozan comp. He's somewhere between DD and Jalen Rose.

Yea I have the same feeling they will go hard after Davis. Best thing for the franchise though is to keep all of our prospects. We don't want it to be a 3-4 year window and then back to being terrible. If they strike out, keep the cap open and continue with the plan.

I don't agree it would be beneficial for Barrett to go to a bad team. The more talent you have around when you are young the easier to work out your warts. Stars challenge you to be better. You pick up their basketball habits over time. Barrett is the perfect swingman to play next to KD and Irving as a slasher. Lob City would be in full effect with Barrett, Mitch and Knox running in transition.

[DOT]

I'm starting to warm up on him

Some of the passes he makes are great, he clearly has an eye for passing. My biggest concerns are that he doesn't have the craftiness to get around guys, so he's gonna have to go through them. Might be best off playing him at SG than SF to give him the size advantage

And obviously I question his decision making. And I question if we're the best org to develop him and learn him how to make the right plays and make him give effort on defense

3 point shooting is what it is with me. That's either gonna develop or it isn't with him. I can't really say, so you just hope he becomes good enough on that end

Still bummed we didn't get Zion, but he might be an okay consolation prize if we keep him

I'm not crazy high on him, but I take him over Morant every day of the week.

For someone who's playmaking ability is being touted so highly, he didn't really manipulate the defense the way you would have liked to have seen at the college level. His handle, shot, and decision making need a lot of growth to really unlock the ceiling that people see for him. He spent more time trying to go through guys than really making his impact from a place of skill. His functional athleticism was good, but not elite at the college level, so he's going to have to get craftier in the NBA.

That being said, there are parts of his game that are pretty advanced for someone his age. If that jumper improves, a lot of other aspects about his game become unlocked, and the improved spacing can provide more room to operate. He's unquestionably a top prospect in the draft, and was probably my ideal target until around December when he started to fall into hero ball and never looked back.

He's intriguing because he's a player with a foundation of skills that can pretty much fill any gap in a lineup from the swingman position...provided the jumper comes around.

Obviously, he's the favorite at 3. He's not so far ahead of the pack that I wouldn't consider moving down or drafting someone else, but his talent is enough that I'd take him and not have any regrets.

I definitely feel that

I just haven't really said too much about him all year cause there isn't much to say. He's been at 2 on my board pretty much the entire year, but that was cause nobody else really took it from him. I just don't look at anyone else in the draft and think, "yeah, this guy looks like a 2nd/3rd pick" or really even a 5th pick for that matter

He has the game of a really good player, it just needs a ton of refinement. Which is fine, he's not even 19 yet, so even among draftees he's pretty young, just very high risk high reward type deal with him

[robillionaire]

Most dead pre draft thread. All Bc dreams didn’t come true.

I think it’s not a busy thread because when you’re picking 8th or 9th there are like 10 different players you could talk about that you wish fall to you or want to reach for. And we can argue back and forth about who we should pick or who might pick what player in front of us. But here we know who is going 1 and 2, and we have a good idea who we would draft 3rd and a cliff after that. So we only have a need to discuss RJ or trade scenarios

I mean look at the one sided poll result compared to years prior

[GONYK]

I'm starting to warm up on him

Some of the passes he makes are great, he clearly has an eye for passing. My biggest concerns are that he doesn't have the craftiness to get around guys, so he's gonna have to go through them. Might be best off playing him at SG than SF to give him the size advantage

And obviously I question his decision making. And I question if we're the best org to develop him and learn him how to make the right plays and make him give effort on defense

3 point shooting is what it is with me. That's either gonna develop or it isn't with him. I can't really say, so you just hope he becomes good enough on that end

Still bummed we didn't get Zion, but he might be an okay consolation prize if we keep him

I'm not crazy high on him, but I take him over Morant every day of the week.

For someone who's playmaking ability is being touted so highly, he didn't really manipulate the defense the way you would have liked to have seen at the college level. His handle, shot, and decision making need a lot of growth to really unlock the ceiling that people see for him. He spent more time trying to go through guys than really making his impact from a place of skill. His functional athleticism was good, but not elite at the college level, so he's going to have to get craftier in the NBA.

That being said, there are parts of his game that are pretty advanced for someone his age. If that jumper improves, a lot of other aspects about his game become unlocked, and the improved spacing can provide more room to operate. He's unquestionably a top prospect in the draft, and was probably my ideal target until around December when he started to fall into hero ball and never looked back.

He's intriguing because he's a player with a foundation of skills that can pretty much fill any gap in a lineup from the swingman position...provided the jumper comes around.

Obviously, he's the favorite at 3. He's not so far ahead of the pack that I wouldn't consider moving down or drafting someone else, but his talent is enough that I'd take him and not have any regrets.

I definitely feel that

I just haven't really said too much about him all year cause there isn't much to say. He's been at 2 on my board pretty much the entire year, but that was cause nobody else really took it from him. I just don't look at anyone else in the draft and think, "yeah, this guy looks like a 2nd/3rd pick" or really even a 5th pick for that matter

He has the game of a really good player, it just needs a ton of refinement. Which is fine, he's not even 19 yet, so even among draftees he's pretty young, just very high risk high reward type deal with him

Same.

I wish it was more "he's definitely the 2nd best player in the draft" and not "nobody is really definitively better, so he's #2".

Though, Culver checks pretty much a lot of boxes for me as a prospect. He didn't overtake RJ to me, but I'd put them relatively on the same level, with Morant behind them.

After Zion, I find this draft to be pretty flat, with the next huge dip coming around 7-8.

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