Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[Deeeez Knicks]

Keep it simple this offseason. Add another lotto pick in '21 and hopefully we can be in business soon.

-Trade Randle + DSJ for Batum + 2nd rounders/whatever
-Draft LaMelo, Paul Reed, Desmond Bane
-resign Dot
-Sign Taj Gibson + Marcus Morris to 1 year deals
-Keep Bullock (to shop around) and get rid of other bums
-Use rest of cap space to try to get picks/assets or save for future deal
-Fill out roster with cheap, young players

Mitch | Taj | Wooten
Morris | Knox | Reed
RJ | Iggy | Batum
Bullock | Dotson | Bane
LaMelo Ball | Frank | Kadeem Allen

I would prefer Bertans over Morris but I doubt we can get Bertans on a 1+1 deal. We might be able to get Morris on a 1+1 but as long as he's playing the 4 position I'm good with it.

Other than that its a really good offseason. Who's your pick for coach?

Jalen Smith or Paul Read or Patrick Williams fits that backup 4 role very nicely. All could be likely with our 27th pick.

And the other factor is we pretty much only have a 9% chance at Lamelo. So the question would that is a dreamful draft selection. Who is the most likely at 7 or 8 where we have a 50% chance of drafting?

Bertans would be a target too. Guess the best Stretch 4 we can get for 1 year. I am not sure if Morris will get the big payday he is looking for this offseason so I could see him taking another big 1 year deal. He was pretty good here and seemed to be a good mentor. I know he can force some shots, but he made a lot of them. It can be good to take some of the scoring pressure off.
Overall, I prefer keeping cap open with 1 year deals, rather then spend on a non-star, unless we get a big discount.

If we don’t move up I would target Killian Hayes, but it gets dicey after him. I would probably pick between Haliburton and Cole. I keep going back and forth on that one. It will be a tough call picking at 6-10 in this draft. I like Patrick Williams also. He would be a nice pick if available with a later pick. There are some decent stretch 4 and wing types in this draft. And think it is pretty deep with depth.

I prefer Atkinson out of the coaching options. Just want a coach that will give priority to the youth, and establish something. And don’t hire Mark Jackson.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Keep it simple this offseason. Add another lotto pick in '21 and hopefully we can be in business soon.

-Trade Randle + DSJ for Batum + 2nd rounders/whatever
-Draft LaMelo, Paul Reed, Desmond Bane
-resign Dot
-Sign Taj Gibson + Marcus Morris to 1 year deals
-Keep Bullock (to shop around) and get rid of other bums
-Use rest of cap space to try to get picks/assets or save for future deal
-Fill out roster with cheap, young players

Mitch | Taj | Wooten
Morris | Knox | Reed
RJ | Iggy | Batum
Bullock | Dotson | Bane
LaMelo Ball | Frank | Kadeem Allen

I would prefer Bertans over Morris but I doubt we can get Bertans on a 1+1 deal. We might be able to get Morris on a 1+1 but as long as he's playing the 4 position I'm good with it.

Other than that its a really good offseason. Who's your pick for coach?

Jalen Smith or Paul Read or Patrick Williams fits that backup 4 role very nicely. All could be likely with our 27th pick.

And the other factor is we pretty much only have a 9% chance at Lamelo. So the question would that is a dreamful draft selection. Who is the most likely at 7 or 8 where we have a 50% chance of drafting?

Bertans would be a target too. Guess the best Stretch 4 we can get for 1 year. I am not sure if Morris will get the big payday he is looking for this offseason so I could see him taking another big 1 year deal. He was pretty good here and seemed to be a good mentor. I know he can force some shots, but he made a lot of them. It can be good to take some of the scoring pressure off.
Overall, I prefer keeping cap open with 1 year deals, rather then spend on a non-star, unless we get a big discount.

If we don’t move up I would target Killian Hayes, but it gets dicey after him. I would probably pick between Haliburton and Cole. I keep going back and forth on that one. It will be a tough call picking at 6-10 in this draft. I like Patrick Williams also. He would be a nice pick if available with a later pick. There are some decent stretch 4 and wing types in this draft. And think it is pretty deep with depth.

I prefer Atkinson out of the coaching options. Just want a coach that will give priority to the youth, and establish something. And don’t hire Mark Jackson.

either haliburton or killian should be there wherever we pick in the 6-9 range. i'd be happy about either. i'm torn myself. like them both a lot. i thnk haliburton is underrated for some reason.

would love to have mook back. he's everything you want knick kids to emulate. if both he and paul ended up on the team, you could possibly have a competitive rebuild that doesn't choke the youth out. you just can't have too many more minutes-heavy vets than that.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I would prefer Bertans over Morris but I doubt we can get Bertans on a 1+1 deal. We might be able to get Morris on a 1+1 but as long as he's playing the 4 position I'm good with it.

Other than that its a really good offseason. Who's your pick for coach?

Jalen Smith or Paul Read or Patrick Williams fits that backup 4 role very nicely. All could be likely with our 27th pick.

And the other factor is we pretty much only have a 9% chance at Lamelo. So the question would that is a dreamful draft selection. Who is the most likely at 7 or 8 where we have a 50% chance of drafting?

Bertans would be a target too. Guess the best Stretch 4 we can get for 1 year. I am not sure if Morris will get the big payday he is looking for this offseason so I could see him taking another big 1 year deal. He was pretty good here and seemed to be a good mentor. I know he can force some shots, but he made a lot of them. It can be good to take some of the scoring pressure off.
Overall, I prefer keeping cap open with 1 year deals, rather then spend on a non-star, unless we get a big discount.

If we don’t move up I would target Killian Hayes, but it gets dicey after him. I would probably pick between Haliburton and Cole. I keep going back and forth on that one. It will be a tough call picking at 6-10 in this draft. I like Patrick Williams also. He would be a nice pick if available with a later pick. There are some decent stretch 4 and wing types in this draft. And think it is pretty deep with depth.

I prefer Atkinson out of the coaching options. Just want a coach that will give priority to the youth, and establish something. And don’t hire Mark Jackson.

either haliburton or killian should be there wherever we pick in the 6-9 range. i'd be happy about either. i'm torn myself. like them both a lot. i thnk haliburton is underrated for some reason.

would love to have mook back. he's everything you want knick kids to emulate. if both he and paul ended up on the team, you could possibly have a competitive rebuild that doesn't choke the youth out. you just can't have too many more minutes-heavy vets than that.

Yea, I think someone good will be there in that range. It will be tough to figure out the right pick. Some of these players are likely to end up as busts for one reason or another so hopefully we make the right call.

Mook was great here and brings a lot of things we could use...vet presence, can stretch the floor, play tough defense, take some scoring pressure off, can handle the media, etc.

I would still pass on CP3. Just dont want to take that contract on and get stuck with it.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Bertans would be a target too. Guess the best Stretch 4 we can get for 1 year. I am not sure if Morris will get the big payday he is looking for this offseason so I could see him taking another big 1 year deal. He was pretty good here and seemed to be a good mentor. I know he can force some shots, but he made a lot of them. It can be good to take some of the scoring pressure off.
Overall, I prefer keeping cap open with 1 year deals, rather then spend on a non-star, unless we get a big discount.

If we don’t move up I would target Killian Hayes, but it gets dicey after him. I would probably pick between Haliburton and Cole. I keep going back and forth on that one. It will be a tough call picking at 6-10 in this draft. I like Patrick Williams also. He would be a nice pick if available with a later pick. There are some decent stretch 4 and wing types in this draft. And think it is pretty deep with depth.

I prefer Atkinson out of the coaching options. Just want a coach that will give priority to the youth, and establish something. And don’t hire Mark Jackson.

either haliburton or killian should be there wherever we pick in the 6-9 range. i'd be happy about either. i'm torn myself. like them both a lot. i thnk haliburton is underrated for some reason.

would love to have mook back. he's everything you want knick kids to emulate. if both he and paul ended up on the team, you could possibly have a competitive rebuild that doesn't choke the youth out. you just can't have too many more minutes-heavy vets than that.

Yea, I think someone good will be there in that range. It will be tough to figure out the right pick. Some of these players are likely to end up as busts for one reason or another so hopefully we make the right call.

Mook was great here and brings a lot of things we could use...vet presence, can stretch the floor, play tough defense, take some scoring pressure off, can handle the media, etc.

I would still pass on CP3. Just dont want to take that contract on and get stuck with it.

i understand that completely. i was just thinking about how much better the team could be with an all-time great PG teaching the backcourt and mook teaching the frontcourt. i have lots of concerns about chris paul. but most of them have to do with what you'd have to give up to get him. i'm not trying to see any assets go out. i'm not too concerned with the extra year of cap hit if paul does for the knicks what he did for OKC.

[spree2kawhi]

I would prefer Bertans over Morris but I doubt we can get Bertans on a 1+1 deal. We might be able to get Morris on a 1+1 but as long as he's playing the 4 position I'm good with it.

Other than that its a really good offseason. Who's your pick for coach?

Jalen Smith or Paul Read or Patrick Williams fits that backup 4 role very nicely. All could be likely with our 27th pick.

And the other factor is we pretty much only have a 9% chance at Lamelo. So the question would that is a dreamful draft selection. Who is the most likely at 7 or 8 where we have a 50% chance of drafting?

Bertans would be a target too. Guess the best Stretch 4 we can get for 1 year. I am not sure if Morris will get the big payday he is looking for this offseason so I could see him taking another big 1 year deal. He was pretty good here and seemed to be a good mentor. I know he can force some shots, but he made a lot of them. It can be good to take some of the scoring pressure off.
Overall, I prefer keeping cap open with 1 year deals, rather then spend on a non-star, unless we get a big discount.

If we don’t move up I would target Killian Hayes, but it gets dicey after him. I would probably pick between Haliburton and Cole. I keep going back and forth on that one. It will be a tough call picking at 6-10 in this draft. I like Patrick Williams also. He would be a nice pick if available with a later pick. There are some decent stretch 4 and wing types in this draft. And think it is pretty deep with depth.

I prefer Atkinson out of the coaching options. Just want a coach that will give priority to the youth, and establish something. And don’t hire Mark Jackson.

either haliburton or killian should be there wherever we pick in the 6-9 range. i'd be happy about either. i'm torn myself. like them both a lot. i thnk haliburton is underrated for some reason.

would love to have mook back. he's everything you want knick kids to emulate. if both he and paul ended up on the team, you could possibly have a competitive rebuild that doesn't choke the youth out. you just can't have too many more minutes-heavy vets than that.

We should target Cole and consider moving up for him using DSJ/Knox

[Jeff Van Gully]

Bertans would be a target too. Guess the best Stretch 4 we can get for 1 year. I am not sure if Morris will get the big payday he is looking for this offseason so I could see him taking another big 1 year deal. He was pretty good here and seemed to be a good mentor. I know he can force some shots, but he made a lot of them. It can be good to take some of the scoring pressure off.
Overall, I prefer keeping cap open with 1 year deals, rather then spend on a non-star, unless we get a big discount.

If we don’t move up I would target Killian Hayes, but it gets dicey after him. I would probably pick between Haliburton and Cole. I keep going back and forth on that one. It will be a tough call picking at 6-10 in this draft. I like Patrick Williams also. He would be a nice pick if available with a later pick. There are some decent stretch 4 and wing types in this draft. And think it is pretty deep with depth.

I prefer Atkinson out of the coaching options. Just want a coach that will give priority to the youth, and establish something. And don’t hire Mark Jackson.

either haliburton or killian should be there wherever we pick in the 6-9 range. i'd be happy about either. i'm torn myself. like them both a lot. i thnk haliburton is underrated for some reason.

would love to have mook back. he's everything you want knick kids to emulate. if both he and paul ended up on the team, you could possibly have a competitive rebuild that doesn't choke the youth out. you just can't have too many more minutes-heavy vets than that.

We should target Cole and consider moving up for him using DSJ/Knox

if you like cole, he'll be there too. i think killian and haliburton are coming off the board before him.

[robillionaire]

I would give Bertans a long term deal. If we couldn’t get him and no trade for a stretch 4 happens I’d try to kick the tires on Gallinari who was also a top 20 3 point guy last year. We are that desperate to fill that stretch 4 role imo. As a last resort I may even consider bringing back Portis for his final year and starting him at PF and telling him to exclusively shoot 3s and nothing else. His percentages aren’t bad

At this point I would open up my wallet on any top 20 3 point shooter. That’s where the league is right now. Better use of cap space than the Giannis pipe dreams. I’d probably throw the bag at Joe Harris too

[BowlRips]

So just based on rumors

Mitch /
Wood / Melo
RJ / Knox
Frank / Bullock
CP3 / Cole Anthony


Def would be a fun team to watch

[WargamesX]

So just based on rumors

Mitch /
Wood / Melo
RJ / Knox
Frank / Bullock
CP3 / Cole Anthony


Def would be a fun team to watch

That team is bad.

[thebuzzardman]

Frank
Booker
RJ
Wood
Meetch

What does that team do?

Alternate fantasy is

LaMelo
Booker
RJ
Wood
Meetch

Pretty bad defense in the backcourt but at least it would be entertaining

[dakomish23]

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[Ris_44]

The Knicks are one of the few teams with Max contract salary Cap space. We will be linked to every mayor free agent this off season.

[Richard4444]

I dont think teams like Charlotte, Cavs and OKC will be interested in cap space to trade Batum, Love or Paul for no assets. They are small market teams that will tank for the next seasons.

[spree2kawhi]

either haliburton or killian should be there wherever we pick in the 6-9 range. i'd be happy about either. i'm torn myself. like them both a lot. i thnk haliburton is underrated for some reason.

would love to have mook back. he's everything you want knick kids to emulate. if both he and paul ended up on the team, you could possibly have a competitive rebuild that doesn't choke the youth out. you just can't have too many more minutes-heavy vets than that.

We should target Cole and consider moving up for him using DSJ/Knox

if you like cole, he'll be there too. i think killian and haliburton are coming off the board before him.

Wouldn't you prefer Cole's scoring?

[spree2kawhi]

Lamelo, DeRozan, RJ, Randle, Mitch. Now that's bad shooting..

[newyorker4ever]

Frank
Booker
RJ
Wood
Meetch

What does that team do?

Alternate fantasy is

LaMelo
Booker
RJ
Wood
Meetch

Pretty bad defense in the backcourt but at least it would be entertaining

The Pistons will hold Christian Wood‘s Early Bird rights this offseason and will have the opportunity to dip into cap room if those Early Bird rights (which would allow the team to offer about $10MM per year) aren’t enough to re-sign him. That should put Detroit in the driver’s seat to bring back the promising young big man, who enjoyed a breakout season in 2019/20.

However, as James L. Edwards III of The Athletic details, the Pistons figure to face some competition for Wood’s services on the open market.

Edwards points to New York and Boston as two teams that could pursue the free-agent-to-be. A March report identified the Knicks as a potential Wood suitor — they could have plenty of cap room and a positional need if they decide not to bring back Bobby Portis and Taj Gibson. As for the Celtics, they’ll only have the mid-level exception available, but expressed interest in Wood at the trade deadline.

Edwards goes on to speculate that the Hornets and Pelicans may also be among the teams that keep an eye on Wood in free agency. Charlotte, in particular, will have a good chunk of cap room available and will likely be in the market for a big man with Bismack Biyombo and Willy Hernangomez set to reach the open market.

[robillionaire]

Frank
Booker
RJ
Wood
Meetch

What does that team do?

Alternate fantasy is

LaMelo
Booker
RJ
Wood
Meetch

Pretty bad defense in the backcourt but at least it would be entertaining

I don't see how getting booker is a possibility but I still like the idea of #2. Replace booker with some deadeye shooter free agent at the 2, and there are a few we can choose from

[WargamesX]

For anyone still interested in supporting the Knicks paying 35 year old CP3 85 million over the next two years

For four consecutive years — two with the Clippers and two with the Rockets — Paul has seen injuries cut into his season.

A broken hand in the 2016 playoffs. Torn ligaments in his left thumb in 2017.

A knee injury at the start of the 2017-18 season, which forced him to miss 14 games.

The infamous right hamstring injury in Game 5 of the 2018 Western Conference finals, which ruled him out the rest of the seven-game series. If Paul doesn’t tear his hamstring, the Rockets might have an NBA championship

A Grade-2 strain of his left hamstring in 2018, which forced him to miss 17 games.

I highly recommend not.....

[spree2kawhi]

Here I am in my spin cycle again

Frank/Cole
Booker (or any other high profile scorer with a 3)
RJ
Grant
Mitch

[Resistance]

For anyone still interested in supporting the Knicks paying 35 year old CP3 85 million over the next two years

For four consecutive years — two with the Clippers and two with the Rockets — Paul has seen injuries cut into his season.

A broken hand in the 2016 playoffs. Torn ligaments in his left thumb in 2017.

A knee injury at the start of the 2017-18 season, which forced him to miss 14 games.

The infamous right hamstring injury in Game 5 of the 2018 Western Conference finals, which ruled him out the rest of the seven-game series. If Paul doesn’t tear his hamstring, the Rockets might have an NBA championship

A Grade-2 strain of his left hamstring in 2018, which forced him to miss 17 games.

I highly recommend not.....

Chris Paul

Season......Games Played......Games......Percentage Played
2014-15...........82................82..............100.00%........
2015-16...........74................82...............90.24%........
2016-17...........61................82...............74.39%.........
2017-18...........58................82...............70.73%.........
2018-19...........58................82...............70.73%.........
2019-20...........63................64...............98.44%.........


OKC will be pitching the idea that CP3 will be able to play in a high percentage of games like he did this season while some will expect him to be able to play in the range of 70-75% of the games as he did in recent years.