2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

[Deeeez Knicks]

Best video I’ve seen on Deni

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Not impressed to consider him in the lotto

Yeah, I don't think I would pick him that high either especially for the Knicks.

[HEZI]

Best video I’ve seen on Deni

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Not impressed to consider him in the lotto

Yeah some of those weak ass flip shots at the basket off the post up are getting sent back in the league.. I won't deny he looks like he has some talent tho.. i see Mario Henzonja

He has talent to play in the league but he won't be much of an impact player. I can see the Mario comparison. There is no change of direction in his drives, just straight line attack. No ability to create separation for his own shot, looks strictly like a spot up shooter. Haven't seen much if any shots on the move. He has some strength on the low block but meh nothing special. The best thing to happen to Avdija might be Luka Doncic because otherwise I don't see the hype with him at all. He looks like a late 1st rounder to me.

[HEZI]

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The most underrated player in the draft! His quickness doesn't get brought up enough but this kid gets up the floor in a flash and he's got that jumper looking legit since his freshman year so now staying in front of him is going to be that much tougher.

I'm seriously thinking about trade down scenarios to pick him up somewhere in the late lotto

[8516knicks]

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The most underrated player in the draft! His quickness doesn't get brought up enough but this kid gets up the floor in a flash and he's got that jumper looking legit since his freshman year so now staying in front of him is going to be that much tougher.

I'm seriously thinking about trade down scenarios to pick him up somewhere in the late lotto

I like he has a good D rep. If we got Hayes at 6 and him at 27 we'd be set a PG for a nice while.

[Fat]

I don’t see the Knicks selecting anyone other than hailburton or cole..

[HEZI]

Another guy who really isn't talked about much is Josh Green. I can't help but see a Klay Thompson type of mechanics in his shot. His volume and accuracy isn't Klay but that shot just from a pure mechanics standpoint is so Klay Thompson like. That kid has a chance to be a lethal NBA shooter if he stays focused and masters his strength and is given a green light on the next level. I'm intrigued for sure

[knickstape21]

Another guy who really isn't talked about much is Josh Green. I can't help but see a Klay Thompson type of mechanics in his shot. His volume and accuracy isn't Klay but that shot just from a pure mechanics standpoint is so Klay Thompson like. That kid has a chance to be a lethal NBA shooter if he stays focused and masters his strength and is given a green light on the next level. I'm intrigued for sure

Yep. Little Devin Booker as well.

Tough to see trajectory. Think there’s 3 levels to this type of player:

Low - Troy Daniels, Damyean Dotson
Mid - Danny Green, Furkan Korkmaz
High - Devin Booker, Klay Thompson

[Knicksfan1992]

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The most underrated player in the draft! His quickness doesn't get brought up enough but this kid gets up the floor in a flash and he's got that jumper looking legit since his freshman year so now staying in front of him is going to be that much tougher.

I'm seriously thinking about trade down scenarios to pick him up somewhere in the late lotto

Him and RJ mixed like oil and water at Duke. No thanks. We don't need another non shooter at guard.

I like Tre but for a team not named the New York Knicks.

[Knicksfan1992]

Best video I’ve seen on Deni

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Not impressed to consider him in the lotto

Feel exactly the same. Don't know what everyone else sees in this kid other than the fact that he's foreign and mysterious to warrant selecting him in the top 5-8.

[HEZI]

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The most underrated player in the draft! His quickness doesn't get brought up enough but this kid gets up the floor in a flash and he's got that jumper looking legit since his freshman year so now staying in front of him is going to be that much tougher.

I'm seriously thinking about trade down scenarios to pick him up somewhere in the late lotto

Him and RJ mixed like oil and water at Duke. No thanks. We don't need another non shooter at guard.

I like Tre but for a team not named the New York Knicks.

He shot 36% from 3 this season on almost 4 attempts a game and was doing things he never did in his freshman year last year. Dude was sprinting up the court and shooting transition stop and pop 3s like he was Trae Young. His game has evolved to a new level. He's got all the tools you want from a PG, combo dribbles, speed and quickness, separation, floaters, passing and playmaking, good defender. He's gonna destroy a lot of these lotto projected guards at the next level and people are going to act all surprised when he does so.

[Zenzibar]

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The most underrated player in the draft! His quickness doesn't get brought up enough but this kid gets up the floor in a flash and he's got that jumper looking legit since his freshman year so now staying in front of him is going to be that much tougher.

I'm seriously thinking about trade down scenarios to pick him up somewhere in the late lotto

Him and RJ mixed like oil and water at Duke. No thanks. We don't need another non shooter at guard.

I like Tre but for a team not named the New York Knicks.

He shot 36% from 3 this season on almost 4 attempts a game and was doing things he never did in his freshman year last year. Dude was sprinting up the court and shooting transition stop and pop 3s like he was Trae Young. His game has evolved to a new level. He's got all the tools you want from a PG, combo dribbles, speed and quickness, separation, floaters, passing and playmaking, good defender. He's gonna destroy a lot of these lotto projected guards at the next level and people are going to act all surprised when he does so.

Tre reminds me of how fringe-lottery Donovan Mitchell destroyed lottery-ranked DSJ in their only head to head in college.

[knickstape21]

Him and RJ mixed like oil and water at Duke. No thanks. We don't need another non shooter at guard.

I like Tre but for a team not named the New York Knicks.

He shot 36% from 3 this season on almost 4 attempts a game and was doing things he never did in his freshman year last year. Dude was sprinting up the court and shooting transition stop and pop 3s like he was Trae Young. His game has evolved to a new level. He's got all the tools you want from a PG, combo dribbles, speed and quickness, separation, floaters, passing and playmaking, good defender. He's gonna destroy a lot of these lotto projected guards at the next level and people are going to act all surprised when he does so.

Tre reminds me of how fringe-lottery Donovan Mitchell destroyed lottery-ranked DSJ in their only head to head in college.

Haha that game alone made me realize DSJ was not it at all.

Donovan scored like the first 10 points of the game and it was just over from there.

[Worst_to_First]

Emoni Bates Gatorade Player of the year as a sophomore. Wow.

Succeeding James Wiseman in terms of getting that award.

[3toheadmelo]

Emoni Bates Gatorade Player of the year as a sophomore. Wow.

Succeeding James Wiseman in terms of getting that award.

Yeah Emoni looks like the real deal. Hopefully we can get Bates and Wiseman. That would be one helluva duo

[KnicksGadfly]

Him and RJ mixed like oil and water at Duke. No thanks. We don't need another non shooter at guard.

I like Tre but for a team not named the New York Knicks.

He shot 36% from 3 this season on almost 4 attempts a game and was doing things he never did in his freshman year last year. Dude was sprinting up the court and shooting transition stop and pop 3s like he was Trae Young. His game has evolved to a new level. He's got all the tools you want from a PG, combo dribbles, speed and quickness, separation, floaters, passing and playmaking, good defender. He's gonna destroy a lot of these lotto projected guards at the next level and people are going to act all surprised when he does so.

Tre reminds me of how fringe-lottery Donovan Mitchell destroyed lottery-ranked DSJ in their only head to head in college.

Not sure if he lasts until our late pick, to be honest. I don't think if he's gonna be the offensive flashy star we all want at the top of the lotto but he can deliver serious value because he can play on both ends on the floor. It's kinda similar to what we hope Frank can be.

[Zenzibar]

He shot 36% from 3 this season on almost 4 attempts a game and was doing things he never did in his freshman year last year. Dude was sprinting up the court and shooting transition stop and pop 3s like he was Trae Young. His game has evolved to a new level. He's got all the tools you want from a PG, combo dribbles, speed and quickness, separation, floaters, passing and playmaking, good defender. He's gonna destroy a lot of these lotto projected guards at the next level and people are going to act all surprised when he does so.

Tre reminds me of how fringe-lottery Donovan Mitchell destroyed lottery-ranked DSJ in their only head to head in college.

Not sure if he lasts until our late pick, to be honest. I don't think if he's gonna be the offensive flashy star we all want at the top of the lotto but he can deliver serious value because he can play on both ends on the floor. It's kinda similar to what we hope Frank can be.

It'll come down to:

1. We don't get a guard with the top pick and he's available at 27.
2. If point 1. is the case, does the team see him as having a better value than Kadeem Allen.

If we don't get our point guard with the top pick, will the team go hard after Fred VanVleet whom I really like?

Toronto papers are already writing about the Knicks going FVV hunting.

Toronto Raptors: What are the chances Fred VanVleet leaves this summer?
https://raptorsrapture.com/2020/04/12/toronto-raptors-chances-fred-vanvleet-leaves/2/

New York Knicks

The New York Knicks are in a constant state of disarray. The team hasn’t made the playoffs since the 2012-13 season. They have reached the post-season five times in the last 20 years. Also, the Knicks have only made it out of the first-round once during that time.

Despite this and the constant interference of James Dolan, the future looks bright for New York.

The Knicks just hired Leon Rose as the team’s new President of Basketball Operations. They have two strong young building blocks on their roster in RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson. The Knicks have all of their future first-round picks. Plus they own the Mavericks’ picks in 2021 and 2023 due to the Kristaps Porzingis trade.

In addition to all their assets, the Knicks project to have significant salary-cap flexibility moving forward. This past summer, the Knicks signed every available power forward, which wasn’t smart. But what was smart was making the second year of most contracts a team option or only partially guaranteed.

The Knicks only have about $44 million currently on the books for the 2021-22 season. They have the ability to add a piece this summer and still have enough room to go big game hunting in 2021.

With that being said, we have been here before. The Knicks missed out on LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in 2010. They missed out on Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and Kawhi Leonard this past summer. It’s very possible history will repeat itself next summer.

If we have learned anything in this era of player empowerment, it is that star players value stability. It’s not just about the money. They want to sign with a well-run organization that is capable of building a championship contender. This is something the Knicks have not been for a very long time.

But just because the Knicks are unlikely to land Giannis Antetokounmpo next summer, that doesn’t mean every available player is going to turn down their money. A lot of players are drawn to the bright lights of New York City. They want to play in Madison Square Garden, the so-called Mecca of basketball.

At the top of the Knicks’ priority list should be a new starting point guard. LaMelo Ball has expressed a desire to play for the Knicks. But if he isn’t available come draft time, the Knicks could turn their focus to free agency.

The Knicks have three point guards under contract for next season in Elfrid Payton, Dennis Smith Jr., and Frank Ntilikina. Payton looks better suited as a backup. Smith and Ntilikina are still raw. None of them appear to be the long-term answer.

VanVleet would provide the Knicks with a steady hand to come in and lead this team. He is a true floor general. VanVleet controls the game very well and could help in the growth and development of the Knicks’ young players. Also, VanVleet is still young enough to fit the timeline of Barrett and Robinson. He provides the best of both worlds.

[RHODEY]

Emoni Bates Gatorade Player of the year as a sophomore. Wow.

Succeeding James Wiseman in terms of getting that award.

Yeah Emoni looks like the real deal. Hopefully we can get Bates and Wiseman. That would be one helluva duo

In an effort to look "competitive" how much do you want to bet that we wont even be in position for Emoni? I suspect that we'll need a strong dose of raw luck...assuming the FO doesn't trade away that year's pick(s).

[HarthorneWingo]

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The most underrated player in the draft! His quickness doesn't get brought up enough but this kid gets up the floor in a flash and he's got that jumper looking legit since his freshman year so now staying in front of him is going to be that much tougher.

I'm seriously thinking about trade down scenarios to pick him up somewhere in the late lotto

With the Dallas pick?

[RHODEY]

VanVleet would provide the Knicks with a steady hand to come in and lead this team. He is a true floor general. VanVleet controls the game very well and could help in the growth and development of the Knicks’ young players. Also, VanVleet is still young enough to fit the timeline of Barrett and Robinson. He provides the best of both worlds.

I certainly do like Vanfleet and would welcome him on this team. However I certainly don't want to give him a max contract - and I think that's exactly what it would take to bring him over.

[RHODEY]

Him and RJ mixed like oil and water at Duke. No thanks. We don't need another non shooter at guard.

I like Tre but for a team not named the New York Knicks.

He shot 36% from 3 this season on almost 4 attempts a game and was doing things he never did in his freshman year last year. Dude was sprinting up the court and shooting transition stop and pop 3s like he was Trae Young. His game has evolved to a new level. He's got all the tools you want from a PG, combo dribbles, speed and quickness, separation, floaters, passing and playmaking, good defender. He's gonna destroy a lot of these lotto projected guards at the next level and people are going to act all surprised when he does so.

Tre reminds me of how fringe-lottery Donovan Mitchell destroyed lottery-ranked DSJ in their only head to head in college.

Yep..great call Hezi didnt watch all of the vid but he's very intriguing... Will he last till 27? Kid looks quick, nimble, has court vision, quick hands on defense...his ability to finish in traffic seems very impressive..very good body control.. What ever happened his freshmen year, the boy looks like he can shoot now...