2021 Knicks Offseason-Training Camp News and Videos

[stuporman]

Paul Pierce had an elite first step, especially early in his career.

Sure he was quicker in his youth but I wouldn't ever call his first step elite, his game was crafty dribble drive off elite shooting.

His game was more based on craftiness than athleticism you're right but Pierce was a very good athlete who could blow past his man in 1v1 situations and (sometimes) explode at the rim.

Pierce was both craftier and more athletic than RJ imo.

RJ has a lot of qualities though, I wasn't trying to downplay his potential. I just think Pierce had better tools entering the NBA to carve out a HOF career.

But as you said, intelligence can go a long way and RJ has plenty. I'm confident he'll make the most of his abilities.

Something to consider is the era of basketball these two guys came into the league.

Obviously RJ is now with the no touch rules on the perimeter so players have to play with their feet and most give more cushion so it's more difficult to 'blow by' on quickness and speed.

PP came into a league that still had alot more perimeter contact and if I recall correctly they were down to just one hand at a time that could be on the body. Don't know where to find that info and my google skills are not too great.

He shot the ball really well and his handle was much better coming into the league than RJ has had so he used his shiftiness that RJ also doesn't possess in the same quality he was able to get by people easier even with the added contact.

RJ doesn't really have the dribble skills to capitalize on the space he's being given and his shooting hadn't commanded the attention to attack that way either.

Just looking at footspeed of the two guys from their initial years it seems negligible in difference between the two. PP just had way better ball skills right away and his body control on changing speeds was superior as well while RJ's strength doesn't really help him much yet.

I think the point stands though that RJ can have success without being all that quick using skill and BBIQ.

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[JXL]

Reports on Mitch is promising but concerning at the same time:

Source: https://theathletic.com/2837122/2021/09/23/nba-injury-report-updates-on-joel-embiid-klay-thompson-and-other-key-players-going-into-nba-training-camps/

Mitchell Robinson, Knicks (broken foot): New York’s starting center early last season is progressing fine, but he is not yet a full go as camp starts. The Knicks will be “conservative,” per a source, in bringing him back.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Reports on Mitch is promising but concerning at the same time:

Source: https://theathletic.com/2837122/2021/09/23/nba-injury-report-updates-on-joel-embiid-klay-thompson-and-other-key-players-going-into-nba-training-camps/

Mitchell Robinson, Knicks (broken foot): New York’s starting center early last season is progressing fine, but he is not yet a full go as camp starts. The Knicks will be “conservative,” per a source, in bringing him back.

I would say the all the injuries are concerning with Mitch. The Knicks should probably be conservative with handling him to try to get him healthy

[Polk377]

Reports on Mitch is promising but concerning at the same time:

Source: https://theathletic.com/2837122/2021/09/23/nba-injury-report-updates-on-joel-embiid-klay-thompson-and-other-key-players-going-into-nba-training-camps/

Mitchell Robinson, Knicks (broken foot): New York’s starting center early last season is progressing fine, but he is not yet a full go as camp starts. The Knicks will be “conservative,” per a source, in bringing him back.

I would say the all the injuries are concerning with Mitch. The Knicks should probably be conservative with handling him to try to get him healthy

Let's ask Thibs about Mitch's status

Thibs: "He's Playing"

[TheGreenArrow]

Reports on Mitch is promising but concerning at the same time:

Source: https://theathletic.com/2837122/2021/09/23/nba-injury-report-updates-on-joel-embiid-klay-thompson-and-other-key-players-going-into-nba-training-camps/

Mitchell Robinson, Knicks (broken foot): New York’s starting center early last season is progressing fine, but he is not yet a full go as camp starts. The Knicks will be “conservative,” per a source, in bringing him back.

I would say the all the injuries are concerning with Mitch. The Knicks should probably be conservative with handling him to try to get him healthy

This is extremely disappointing!!!!!

He missed all of the end of last season and he’s still not full go??!!!!

Smdh!!!!!!

[Kampuchea]

We need to give Mitch time to heal, stop rushing him back.

[Spree2Houston]

They’re probably playing it safe with Mitch. He put on a lot of muscle mass this summer and the team probably want to see him moving around fluidly with his new weight before putting him out there on the court.

[Bob Ross]

What are the odds on a Mitch extension? These injuries may have him wanting to lock up guaranteed cash

[ophdog]

if Mitch stays on the floor and can handle the extra weight I see him having a monster year and will be needed more with Kemba and Evan on D than ever

[TheGreenArrow]

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Ahhh man…..

[G_K_F]

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Ahhh man…..

I don't care who does or doesn't want to get the vaccine. It's a personal choice.

I got the vaccine and I've been dealing with neurological side effects (which I have never had in my life and have zero family history of) that begin 6 days after the second dose and are ongoing for nearly 3 months. But I'm not out here judging if someone is for or against either way.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Ahhh man…..

Never mind folks….

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Crisis averted!!!!!!!

[rajajackal]

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Ahhh man…..

I don't care who does or doesn't want to get the vaccine. It's a personal choice.

I got the vaccine and I've been dealing with neurological side effects (which I have never had in my life and have zero family history of) that begin 6 days after the second dose and are ongoing for nearly 3 months. But I'm not out here judging if someone is for or against either way.

are you comfortable sharing what those side effects are?

[F N 11]

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Ahhh man…..

I don't care who does or doesn't want to get the vaccine. It's a personal choice.

I got the vaccine and I've been dealing with neurological side effects (which I have never had in my life and have zero family history of) that begin 6 days after the second dose and are ongoing for nearly 3 months. But I'm not out here judging if someone is for or against either way.

are you comfortable sharing what those side effects are?

care to share? so far my arm got sore and yes my body felt weird. However you saying 3 months down.

[DOT]

I don't care who does or doesn't want to get the vaccine. It's a personal choice.

I got the vaccine and I've been dealing with neurological side effects (which I have never had in my life and have zero family history of) that begin 6 days after the second dose and are ongoing for nearly 3 months. But I'm not out here judging if someone is for or against either way.

are you comfortable sharing what those side effects are?

care to share? so far my arm got sore and yes my body felt weird. However you saying 3 months down.

The side effect is clearly an inflated ego

He wants us to know how much better than us he is because he doesn't judge people for making a "personal choice" which isn't actually just a personal choice because not getting it can affect other people

It's like saying washing your hands after wiping is a personal choice, and waiters should be free to do whatever they want.

[G_K_F]

are you comfortable sharing what those side effects are?

care to share? so far my arm got sore and yes my body felt weird. However you saying 3 months down.

The side effect is clearly an inflated ego

He wants us to know how much better than us he is because he doesn't judge people for making a "personal choice" which isn't actually just a personal choice because not getting it can affect other people

It's like saying washing your hands after wiping is a personal choice, and waiters should be free to do whatever they want.

Sure, it can effect other people - and those people can get the vaccine to protect themselves. Makes sense, right?

I really don’t care what you think of me dude. Just like I don’t care about people making their own personal health choices. Maybe I’m biased because it’s a actually affected me, but that’s my opinion on it. Sorry you have a problem with it - maybe we can switch places and you can experience my grueling physical pain, though. Will be more than happy to trade since I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy.

Regarding my symptoms - can definitely share with anyone who wants to PM me. Not here to derail the thread.

[G_K_F]

Anyway, looks like my guy McBride is pro vaccine. He made some follow up stories on Instagram. Now people can step off the ledge!

[DOT]

Sure, it can effect other people - and those people can get the vaccine to protect themselves. Makes sense, right?

Not everyone can get vaccinated. Some people are allergic and have to rely on the rest of the population to reach herd immunity

And by allowing significant portions of the population to remain unvaccinated, you dramatically increase the chance the virus will mutate further, meaning more vaccinations in the future or an even deadlier strain

You clearly care a lot about what people think of you. That's why you're on here fishing for people's sympathy for your pain and admiration for your "tolerant" stance. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be on here begging for attention

If you're really in pain from being vaccinated, then I'm sorry. It sounds like you might be one of those people who has an averse reaction to the vaccine, but unfortunately, you had to take it because there are so many people who didn't. Shame, if we had enough people who got vaccinated to reach herd immunity, you might have been spared from that pain because you wouldn't have had to take it. But it's just a personal choice they made, not affecting anyone else.

[G_K_F]

Sure, it can effect other people - and those people can get the vaccine to protect themselves. Makes sense, right?

Not everyone can get vaccinated. Some people are allergic and have to rely on the rest of the population to reach herd immunity

And by allowing significant portions of the population to remain unvaccinated, you dramatically increase the chance the virus will mutate further, meaning more vaccinations in the future or an even deadlier strain

You clearly care a lot about what people think of you. That's why you're on here fishing for people's sympathy for your pain and admiration for your "tolerant" stance. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be on here begging for attention

If you're really in pain from being vaccinated, then I'm sorry. It sounds like you might be one of those people who has an averse reaction to the vaccine, but unfortunately, you had to take it because there are so many people who didn't. Shame, if we had enough people who got vaccinated to reach herd immunity, you might have been spared from that pain because you wouldn't have had to take it. But it's just a personal choice they made, not affecting anyone else.

Provide me with the stats of the people who are allergic to the vaccine - including their age and health issues. I’m willing to guess it’s about the same as people who have developed potential long term adverse reactions from the vaccine like me - a very small minority of people.

The fact that you had to say “if”, as if I’m faking an illness to push some sort of agenda really is sad. Literally ranting at someone and pushing a narrative about ‘starving for attention’ by merely sharing an opinion and stating my real symptoms and turning into some political agenda. I never went on any rant. You did. So you clearly care much more than me. Nobody said don’t get it. All I said is I don’t care if you do or don’t. It’s your decision. As it should be.

You don’t agree with me. Good. As I said, I don’t care. But the minute you start trolling with some BS about attention and making it seem like I’m faking **** for an agenda, well, that’s where I just feel bad for you.

Good talk.