Knicks trade for Josh Hart

nyknicks09 · Post #681 » by **nyknicks09** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:31 pm

god shammgod wrote:
nyknicks09 wrote:And Thibs is going to sample Hart for us to miss the playoffs. Hart will determine if he wants to stay base on the minutes giving to him the remainder of the season or he walks out but I see Thibs playing Hart to appease Leon Rose’s and FO’s mistakes.

he's gonna play hart because he likes guys who are good at defense

At the expense of whose minutes?

Grimes, IQ, or RJ

thebuzzardman · Post #682 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:32 pm

I'm on page 28.

13:30 PM. 1.5 hours to go. Knicks do anything else besides Hart?

OG go anywhere?

I'll try to catch up.

thebuzzardman · Post #683 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:35 pm

robillionaire wrote:Team tank down bad today

A small but ret*rded vocal minority

thebuzzardman · Post #684 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:37 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:When Leon aka the fat pig was hired it was said "he got the connections, he'll get the stars, he is da ****"----3 years later:

He tampered and threw every shady move he had to bring Brunson home (which granted was a good move but could have easily backfired harshly if the NBA decided to punish the Knicks more severely--like multiple FRPs so he lucked out)

Then he got us Bullock, Noel, Fournier, Burks (all on mediocre or bad deals), Hartenstein and now Hart. He drafted Obi who was subsequently buried on the bench. Traded an FRP for the right to bench Cam for 1,5 years.

His tenure has turned into an absolute desaster---not better than any of his predecessors----this pig is a snake oil salesman. He got nothing, no connections, is not competent, cannot make any beneficial trades. He is a purely incompetent imbecile.

Wingo's alt account

Knicks Byke · Post #685 » by **Knicks Byke** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:38 pm

nyknicks09 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
nyknicks09 wrote:And Thibs is going to sample Hart for us to miss the playoffs. Hart will determine if he wants to stay base on the minutes giving to him the remainder of the season or he walks out but I see Thibs playing Hart to appease Leon Rose’s and FO’s mistakes.

he's gonna play hart because he likes guys who are good at defense

At the expense of whose minutes?

Grimes, IQ, or RJ

maybe he plays the 3?

I'm curious as well.

cgmw · Post #686 » by **cgmw** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:39 pm

nyknicks09 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
nyknicks09 wrote:And Thibs is going to sample Hart for us to miss the playoffs. Hart will determine if he wants to stay base on the minutes giving to him the remainder of the season or he walks out but I see Thibs playing Hart to appease Leon Rose’s and FO’s mistakes.

he's gonna play hart because he likes guys who are good at defense

At the expense of whose minutes?

Grimes, IQ, or RJ

None of the above. Deuce is the odd man out.

9-man rotation, bet:

Mitch/Hartenstein
Randle/Obi
RJ
Hart/Grimes
Brunson/IQ

nyknicks09 · Post #687 » by **nyknicks09** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:44 pm

Knicks Byke wrote:
nyknicks09 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
he's gonna play hart because he likes guys who are good at defense

At the expense of whose minutes?

Grimes, IQ, or RJ

maybe he plays the 3?

I'm curious as well.

Small lineup with IQ, Hart, Grimes, RJ, and Randle perhaps

nedleeds · Post #688 » by **nedleeds** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:52 pm

Reign23 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:Team tank down bad today

who is still team tank? we are 4 games over .500 almost 60 games into the season

Oscirus · Post #689 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:56 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I'm on page 28.

13:30 PM. 1.5 hours to go. Knicks do anything else besides Hart?

OG go anywhere?

I'll try to catch up.

they're talking to the bulls about lavine and lifted up obis skirt in hopes of people wanting to take him so nothing

Oscirus · Post #690 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:58 pm

regardless team tank hasnt lost or gained ****, if its a lottery pick, the knicks get to keep it and just have to give up four picks or 1 less pick than the bucks gave up for crowder

omerome · Post #691 » by **omerome** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:59 pm

Oscirus wrote:regardless team tank hasnt lost or gained ****, if its a lottery pick, the knicks get to keep it and just have to give up four picks or 1 less pick than the bucks gave up for crowder

Well, they have one minute to punt the season away. And they will do nothing.

LookToShoot · Post #692 » by **LookToShoot** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:00 pm

DowNY wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Josh Hart move is admitting they made a mistake extending RJ. Overpaying for average talent only guarantees you'll be an average team.

No?
They’re replacing Cam. A player they acquired last year to play with or spell RJ.

RJ isn't giving the Knicks anything, bud. HIs contract is a poison pill, as well.

bearadonisdna · Post #693 » by **bearadonisdna** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:02 pm

Current rotation vs next opponent for example:
Conclusion JHart toolsy as$ dude . More comfortable with him on ball consistently than grimes because of experience and nearly 4 assist per game . No knock on grimey.
Basically a nice Cam replacement but not:
• over rated
• a pretty boy
• a bitch

5. Sims < Embiid
4. Randle > Tucker
3. RJ > Harris

1.JHart < Harden
2.Brunson > Melton

5. Sims -19 | Hart -29
4. Randle-34 | Obi-14
3. RJ -33 | JHart-15

1. JHart -23| Quickley-25
2. Brunson-35 | Grimes-13

Oscirus · Post #694 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:05 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
DowNY wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Josh Hart move is admitting they made a mistake extending RJ. Overpaying for average talent only guarantees you'll be an average team.

No?
They’re replacing Cam. A player they acquired last year to play with or spell RJ.

RJ isn't giving the Knicks anything, bud. HIs contract is a poison pill, as well.

F N 11 · Post #695 » by **F N 11** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:28 pm

While he will help us I changed by mind on this ****.

nedleeds · Post #696 » by **nedleeds** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:33 pm

Knox to the Warriors, he's going to get a ring before the Knicks.

TrueWarrior · Post #697 » by **TrueWarrior** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:33 pm

Hart is only going to take time away from our young fellas. He’ll be 28 soon and expiring too, so we’ll have to pay him.

Either Deuce &/or Obi are completely cut out now, if not both of em.

Rotation:

Brunson 34 / IQ 14
Grimes 27 / IQ 11 / JHart 10
RJ 30 / JHart 18
Julius 35 / Obi 13
Mitch 28 / iHart 20

Or we go small, keep Deuce and cut Obi out, making RJ the backup 4. Obi’s value would go in the gutter then though, which would make no sense since we should have traded him today then.

We shall see but this is a meh trade.

bearadonisdna · Post #698 » by **bearadonisdna** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:36 pm

F N 11 wrote:While he will help us I changed by mind on this ****.

If you think about it?
Is he much better than grimes?
We spend a frp to suppress Grimes?
To trade out of the draft this year ?
Basically recoup nothing back for cam ?
For a contract that he might opt out of and sign elsewhere ?
Or take up off-season cap if he opts in ?
Or Knicks cut him since his salary is non guaranteed if they want cap?

Sometimes it’s good to just live in the present , let all the dust settle before jumping to conclusions.
The pros are he can help immediately but right now my vibe he is like a cam twin contract and all and it didn’t work out.
Still , the positive is he can help in the short term .
It ain’t trickin if you got it

Oscirus · Post #699 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:36 pm

nedleeds wrote:Knox to the Warriors, he's going to get a ring before the Knicks.

no he aint, he was rerouted to the blazers. Hes a lottery team journey man

Grinditout · Post #700 » by **Grinditout** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:46 pm

With no other trade, the Hart trade is pretty meh at best. Trading a draft pick for a guy who doesn't really push you past the first round. He's nice, not sure if you'd give up a pick for a guy who will maaaaaaaybe win you an extra game or two in the first round. I kinda feel the FO did this just to acquiesce Thibs