Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

[Falstaffxx]

Damn, what the heck happened overnight? Melo pretty much confirmed that it was a formality that Lin is getting matched, just that the details need to be handled. Why is everyone so worried again?

WTF are you talking about?

Seriously...what has happened to people's ability to comprehend what they read?

"With Jeremy, I know he definitely wants to be back in New York & Dolan definitely wants him back."
"It's just a matter of them figuring it out at this point."

I don't know about you, but to me, this is as close as confirmation as one can get. These are specific, calculated comments provided by Melo and tweeted by a Newsday guy.

Hmm, there's actually a little more than I thought. Apologies. But the thing is, Carmelo talks in cliches - he doesn't know how to talk any other way because he has nothing genuine to express - and "it's just a matter of them figuring it out" is the kind of thing he throws out there when talking to the media. So I can't get too excited.

On the hand, maybe Dolan changed his mind and told Carmelo to try to do some damage control. We can hope.

[jzmagik]

Damn, what the heck happened overnight? Melo pretty much confirmed that it was a formality that Lin is getting matched, just that the details need to be handled. Why is everyone so worried again?

WTF are you talking about?

Seriously...what has happened to people's ability to comprehend what they read?

"With Jeremy, I know he definitely wants to be back in New York & Dolan definitely wants him back."
"It's just a matter of them figuring it out at this point."

I don't know about you, but to me, this is as close as confirmation as one can get. These are specific, calculated comments provided by Melo and tweeted by a Newsday guy.

PR damage control for Melo and the Knicks to save face after this circus. "Oh we want him back but he cost too much, sorry"

[Knicks_Fan2]

Damn, what the heck happened overnight? Melo pretty much confirmed that it was a formality that Lin is getting matched, just that the details need to be handled. Why is everyone so worried again?

WTF are you talking about?

Seriously...what has happened to people's ability to comprehend what they read?

"With Jeremy, I know he definitely wants to be back in New York & Dolan definitely wants him back."
"It's just a matter of them figuring it out at this point."

I don't know about you, but to me, this is as close as confirmation as one can get. These are specific, calculated comments provided by Melo and tweeted by a Newsday guy.

Not confirmation obviously but I also think it's extremely telling.

[makeitstop]

So, what did I miss last night?

What new heights of hyperbole and hysteria were reached on RGM-NYK while I was out in the meat world? Any bomb threat, wishes of physical intimidation or mayhem?

Or did everyone just repeat their positions another few hundred times?

[papiculo]

Alan Hahn
Also in NBA Free Agency

And now for the big story of the day: Jeremy Lin. The Knicks will announce a decision this evening regarding the decision on the offer sheet Lin signed with the Rockets. Though reports have indicated the team will pass, internally there has been no final decision made. There are too many factors outside of basketball that come into play in regards to Lin and all of these need to be considered.

[AmazingJason]

Melo name dropped dolan. You just dont name drop your boss unless you know the deal. By namedropping dolan he effectively put DOlan into the spotlight and if lin isnt matched Dolan will be the scapegoat.

The way Melo phrased it...Lin coming back is just a matter of dotting the i's and t's...it does not sound like an NBA owner scored or betrayed...

[cgmw]

It still doesn’t make sense. I just don’t see any logical reason why we wouldn’t match.

It just cant be about money. Not after we splurged the last 2 offseasons. Not after we had endless pockets for years. Not for a tax that we may have to pay 3 years from now. We never think that far ahead.

There’s got to be some other reasons….

[putiger78]

Here is the thing... if Lin plays poorly, he won't be all that tradable in Year 3. Yes, he will be "expiring", but expirings are only valuable in the scope of your willingness to take on another contract (that usually isn't a good one). If Lin doesn't play well, a team with cap space is not just going to absorb Lin's deal.

[suicidedeuce]

KnicksGod is providing his thoughts on the Knicks. You're providing your thoughts on KnicksGod.

This forum moderator advocated a movement to blame Carmelo Anthony for something that MIGHT happen that many, many levelheaded posters never thought was ever going to happen, for this use of one word.

It helped shape, color and encourage discourse here that resulted in unprecedented number of locked threads, people advocating the death of James Dolan and a general mob mentality that took the form of namecalling to identify players (like Felton) who really has no role in the drama other than bit player).

He is still suggesting that Carmelo Anthony's tenure as a Knicks will be tainted by these events, but at the same time playing the role of third-party observer, rather than participant and leader, which is a change of position over the last 16 hours or so.

This is a Knicks forum and I'm talking about Knick issues.

[21shumpst]

Tommy Beer ‏@TommyBeer via Twitter
Smart/winning teams retain valuable assets, especially when it doesn’t cost them players or impact their cap space.

But that’s not the case. Again, it’s Lin or NOTHING. Grunwald can't use that $25 MM next summer. No-brainer from a “basketball perspective”

If NPBA had lost that court ruling & NY had to decide b/w Lin & someone else for MLE, maybe then I'd understand arguing against matching...

People just don't seem to get this. We don't keep Lin solely for his on court potential, we keep him because this is an asset that can be used in the future that if we give away, we cannot get back.

[jzmagik]

Alan Hahn
Also in NBA Free Agency

And now for the big story of the day: Jeremy Lin. The Knicks will announce a decision this evening regarding the decision on the offer sheet Lin signed with the Rockets. Though reports have indicated the team will pass, internally there has been no final decision made. There are too many factors outside of basketball that come into play in regards to Lin and all of these need to be considered.

This evening eh?

[towelie]

Even if we do match Lin, I'm still peeved that we went and S&T'd for Felton. Some people might like the added guard depth, but there's only so many minutes to go around. Mark my words, Felton will cause lockerroom/chemistry issues if he ain't starting or getting significant minutes.

[Realmatic]

this is so different from Lebron situation. Lebron always knew he'd be going to miami, he was just biding time for riley to complete the beasley trade so they'd have the cap space. It was the media that kept saying Lebron was leaning towards ny, there was never anything solid that said that he'd come here.

[Jan_Sobieski]

You never name drop Dolan..

[ShotgunNitty]

WTF are you talking about?

Seriously...what has happened to people's ability to comprehend what they read?

"With Jeremy, I know he definitely wants to be back in New York & Dolan definitely wants him back."
"It's just a matter of them figuring it out at this point."

I don't know about you, but to me, this is as close as confirmation as one can get. These are specific, calculated comments provided by Melo and tweeted by a Newsday guy.

PR damage control for Melo and the Knicks to save face after this circus. "Oh we want him back but he cost too much, sorry"

Someone within the Knicks organization told you it was PR damage control?

[seren]

Here is the thing... if Lin plays poorly, he won't be all that tradable in Year 3. Yes, he will be "expiring", but expirings are only valuable in the scope of your willingness to take on another contract (that usually isn't a good one). If Lin doesn't play well, a team with cap space is not just going to absorb Lin's deal.

In that case, you buy him out. Spread his contract to three years. Take it like a man. It won't be the first time we would pay for someone not to play for us. List includes many names far more expensive than Lin would be.

[Falstaffxx]

Alan Hahn
Also in NBA Free Agency

And now for the big story of the day: Jeremy Lin. The Knicks will announce a decision this evening regarding the decision on the offer sheet Lin signed with the Rockets. Though reports have indicated the team will pass, internally there has been no final decision made. There are too many factors outside of basketball that come into play in regards to Lin and all of these need to be considered.

The infuriating thing is that matching makes sense from a pure basketball standpoint. It doesn't even require any of those "factors outside of basketball." With Chinese TV deal all that, it shouldn't even be a question. I hope Dolan is just making Lin sweat because he's pissed at him.

[GONYK]

Damn, what the heck happened overnight? Melo pretty much confirmed that it was a formality that Lin is getting matched, just that the details need to be handled. Why is everyone so worried again?

WTF are you talking about?

Seriously...what has happened to people's ability to comprehend what they read?

"With Jeremy, I know he definitely wants to be back in New York & Dolan definitely wants him back."
"It's just a matter of them figuring it out at this point."

I don't know about you, but to me, this is as close as confirmation as one can get. These are specific, calculated comments provided by Melo and tweeted by a Newsday guy.

I don't believe Melo ever said that.

Can you show me the quote?

[Deeeez Knicks]

Man I really hate the media. They are probably all just F’ing with us right now with this negativity.

[Knicker23]

This. Isn't. About. Melo.

Colin Coward can drag Melo through the mud all he wants - it still isn't his choice on whether they bring Lin back. If they Knicks want him back at this price they will bring him back.

It's obvious they were annoyed he went back for more $... Clearly Woodson, your head coach, wouldn't be forthrightly saying 'of course we'll match, Lin is our starting PG' etc etc if it wasn't a given....

However since the new contract; 1) knicks felt betrayed and or 2) knicks felt he isn't worth it... Either of which lead to apparently seeking another direction.