Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[WargamesX]

For anyone still interested in supporting the Knicks paying 35 year old CP3 85 million over the next two years

For four consecutive years — two with the Clippers and two with the Rockets — Paul has seen injuries cut into his season.

A broken hand in the 2016 playoffs. Torn ligaments in his left thumb in 2017.

A knee injury at the start of the 2017-18 season, which forced him to miss 14 games.

The infamous right hamstring injury in Game 5 of the 2018 Western Conference finals, which ruled him out the rest of the seven-game series. If Paul doesn’t tear his hamstring, the Rockets might have an NBA championship

A Grade-2 strain of his left hamstring in 2018, which forced him to miss 17 games.

I highly recommend not.....

Chris Paul

Season......Games Played......Games......Percentage Played
2014-15...........82................82..............100.00%........
2015-16...........74................82...............90.24%........
2016-17...........61................82...............74.39%.........
2017-18...........58................82...............70.73%.........
2018-19...........58................82...............70.73%.........
2019-20...........63................64...............98.44%.........


OKC will be pitching the idea that CP3 will be able to play in a high percentage of games like he did this season while some will expect him to be able to play in the range of 70-75% of the games as he did in recent years.

Actual game wise he hasn't played more than 3/4 a season since 2015.....

[Resistance]

I don't think that there will be adequate spacing with Randle and DDR on the court together. Both also prefer to have the ball than play offball, so there would be less touches for Barrett and the other young players that NY needs to develop.

[spree2kawhi]

I don't think that there will be adequate spacing with Randle and DDR on the court together. Both also prefer to have the ball than play offball, so there would be less touches for Barrett and the other young players that NY needs to develop.

Randle must go. That's clear as day.

At SG we need scoring punch and three point shooting in that order, so DeRozan is less than ideal. He is an incredible and underrated talent though. I'd take him, but prefer an efficient, ball dominant shooter.

[Jeff Van Gully]

We should target Cole and consider moving up for him using DSJ/Knox

if you like cole, he'll be there too. i think killian and haliburton are coming off the board before him.

Wouldn't you prefer Cole's scoring?

cole's scoring appers at the expense of facilitation and other things conducive to winning ball. this season at UNC dropped him from a #1 pick candidate to, "i don't know about this guy." i hadn't seen a drop like that since... another UNC guy (harrison barnes).

i wouldn't be mad at getting cole somewhere in the 9 range or so. but i'm not passing on either killian or haliburton for him. i do understand why others would. they're all risks.

cole has a scoring talent. i'm terrified of what he looks like as a playmaker. but he can def go out and get you a bucket... or die trying.

[Jeff Van Gully]

i know we've deviated into draft talk, but it's funny how this time last year i didn't think we'd have a shot at cole anthony. now i'm talking about passing on him.

there is definitely high risk passing on him bites teams in the azz.

[a-French-Fan]

At the end, keep only Frank and RJ (firstly he is really good, secondly he can speak french, and you will understand why it can be important). Chose all player you want for trades.

This summer:
Hire Kenny Atkinson

Get Doumbouya from Pistons -give who you want
Sign Jaylen Hoard
Draft Hayes or Malédon, make a trade to get the second one [yes, three french PGs could be risky on first sight]
Get Batum from Hornets
Bring back J-Lauvergne and Nando de Colo into NBA
Bring back Noah

Next summer:
Free Agency : Evan Fournier and Rudy Gobert
If one of our three PG disappoint you, drop him and draft Matthew Strazel

Adjust your roster with some african and canadian players.

What? I use the Knicks as a devenopment franchise for Paris 2024? Well, it's true, but Knick fans do not have the front office they deserve, so I try to give some useful idea ^^

[spree2kawhi]

if you like cole, he'll be there too. i think killian and haliburton are coming off the board before him.

Wouldn't you prefer Cole's scoring?

cole's scoring appers at the expense of facilitation and other things conducive to winning ball. this season at UNC dropped him from a #1 pick candidate to, "i don't know about this guy." i hadn't seen a drop like that since... another UNC guy (harrison barnes).

i wouldn't be mad at getting cole somewhere in the 9 range or so. but i'm not passing on either killian or haliburton for him. i do understand why others would. they're all risks.

cole has a scoring talent. i'm terrified of what he looks like as a playmaker. but he can def go out and get you a bucket... or die trying.

I'd take that because it blends in very well between RJ and Frank. Usually that isn't at all the type of player I appreciate, so I might regret it. But after all this guy still has all the talent in the world (and he's only had one rough transitional year now).

As you said, they're all risks, even Ball the top guys, so I'd go with the most talent. That's Cole to me, and he addresses a dire need. Chances are, he'll perform like Monta Ellis or Buddy Hield, so I'm good.

[8516knicks]

"i wouldn't be mad at getting cole somewhere in the 9 range or so." - here's another former 9th pick that Cole might remind people of -- Trey Burke. Alfonso Clark "Trey" Burke III (born November 12, 1992) is an American basketball player. He was drafted by the Minnesota Timberwolves with the ninth overall pick in the 2013 NBA draft -- Just feel Cole is a drafting accident waiting to happen (like Knox).

[thebuzzardman]

At the end, keep only Frank and RJ (firstly he is really good, secondly he can speak french, and you will understand why it can be important). Chose all player you want for trades.

This summer:
Hire Kenny Atkinson

Get Doumbouya from Pistons -give who you want
Sign Jaylen Hoard
Draft Hayes or Malédon, make a trade to get the second one [yes, three french PGs could be risky on first sight]
Get Batum from Hornets
Bring back J-Lauvergne and Nando de Colo into NBA
Bring back Noah

Next summer:
Free Agency : Evan Fournier and Rudy Gobert
If one of our three PG disappoint you, drop him and draft Matthew Strazel

Adjust your roster with some african and canadian players.

What? I use the Knicks as a devenopment franchise for Paris 2024? Well, it's true, but Knick fans do not have the front office they deserve, so I try to give some useful idea ^^

Why do the Knicks go and pay Gobert when they have a similar player who might turn out better, but will certainly be cheaper?

Other than your preference to load the team with French speakers?

I'll meet you half way. You can donate $10,000 for French speaking lessons to Mitch.

[a-French-Fan]

At the end, keep only Frank and RJ (firstly he is really good, secondly he can speak french, and you will understand why it can be important). Chose all player you want for trades.

This summer:
Hire Kenny Atkinson

Get Doumbouya from Pistons -give who you want
Sign Jaylen Hoard
Draft Hayes or Malédon, make a trade to get the second one [yes, three french PGs could be risky on first sight]
Get Batum from Hornets
Bring back J-Lauvergne and Nando de Colo into NBA
Bring back Noah

Next summer:
Free Agency : Evan Fournier and Rudy Gobert
If one of our three PG disappoint you, drop him and draft Matthew Strazel

Adjust your roster with some african and canadian players.

What? I use the Knicks as a devenopment franchise for Paris 2024? Well, it's true, but Knick fans do not have the front office they deserve, so I try to give some useful idea ^^

Why do the Knicks go and pay Gobert when they have a similar player who might turn out better, but will certainly be cheaper?

Other than your preference to load the team with French speakers?

I'll meet you half way. You can donate $10,000 for French speaking lessons to Mitch.

Ok let's keep Mitch but for an association with Gobert ^^ It's gonna be affordable with Batum signing for minimum next year

[aggo]

I had a dream last night we traded for cp3

It went like this:


I turn the tv on, watch cp3 play
I freak out
Wtf!!!
I find out we traded first round picks for him
I get really angry

—
I wake up in the morning and think: wow that was pretty lucid, did I really dream that?
Logs into twitter
No knicks stuff
In my head- wow that’s **** up. My life sucks so much even in my dreams the Knicks haunt me, literally.

[8516knicks]

i know we've deviated into draft talk, but it's funny how this time last year i didn't think we'd have a shot at cole anthony. now i'm talking about passing on him.

there is definitely high risk passing on him bites teams in the azz.

But the same risk in the other direction if u take him also.

[Nbabrothers]

If they allow Amnesty for the NBA and Chris Paul becomes available, would you consider him a good fit for the Knicks? His age really is his own negative.

Status this season:
2019
OKC
63 games
31.8 min
17.7 Pts
48.9 fg
4.9 reb
6.8 assists

Personally I think he would provide the leadership to make them a better team automatically the same way Jason Kidd and Chauncey Billups did for the Knicks.
I know we want our younger players to develop but I think he would be integral in furthering their progress.
Also, on the other hand if we could acquire him with two first round draft picks for a Julius Randle could be a homer run.

What do you think in both scenarios?

[prophet_of_rage]

So Paul for vet min? A lit of teams would like him in that scenario. If he cost a vet min he's great for the Knicks.

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[Nbabrothers]

GP MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST TOV STL BLK PF FP DD2 TD3 +/-
2019-20 57 33.0 17.7 7.3 13.8 53.3 0.1 0.6 14.3 3.0 5.2 57.5 4.4 10.8 15.2 2.7 3.6 1.9 1.6 3.5 47.0 47 0 -3.4

15.2 rebounds leads the league and his shooting percentage is great! Not a good three point shooting but he is a good defender as well.
I would be very happy getting him.

[Nbabrothers]

So Paul for vet min? A lit of teams would like him in that scenario. If he cost a vet min he's great for the Knicks.

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Exactly! And if we were to add Andre Drummond I believe we would have a playoff team.

[frothbrain]

Paul wouldn't sign with the Knicks for the vet min. He would get MLE offers and the Knicks would have to beat that.

[prophet_of_rage]

GP MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST TOV STL BLK PF FP DD2 TD3 +/-
2019-20 57 33.0 17.7 7.3 13.8 53.3 0.1 0.6 14.3 3.0 5.2 57.5 4.4 10.8 15.2 2.7 3.6 1.9 1.6 3.5 47.0 47 0 -3.4

15.2 rebounds leads the league and his shooting percentage is great! Not a good three point shooting but he is a good defender as well.
I would be very happy getting him.

Nope. Stats that do not lead to wins and too expensive. Not a great defender or scorer.

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[Nbabrothers]

I don't think that there will be adequate spacing with Randle and DDR on the court together. Both also prefer to have the ball than play offball, so there would be less touches for Barrett and the other young players that NY needs to develop.

Randle must go. That's clear as day.

At SG we need scoring punch and three point shooting in that order, so DeRozan is less than ideal. He is an incredible and underrated talent though. I'd take him, but prefer an efficient, ball dominant shooter.

Would a trade involving Randle for Chris Paul and two first round draft picks be something enticing? A veteran like Paul will help our young core get better while still drafting for a pg.

[Deeeez Knicks]

If they follow the rules of the last amnesty, its a silent bid auction. Team with the highest bid would get Paul. I would still def take him for 1 year, $10mil or whatever. But okc may not even opt to amnesty him right now since they have to pay him anyway, and he is still good....even if there is an amnesty

Hopefully there is just so we can get rid of Randle easily